ISU Statement on Russia's war against Ukraine - Participation in international competitions of Skaters and Officials from Russia and Belarus

[Yehudi]

Zhulin finally acknowledged Nazarova and Nikitin’s existence, saying they’ve been brainwashed.

Жулин об украинцах на ЧМ: делают все, чтобы их не связывали с Россией

Серебряный и бронзовый призер Олимпийских игр, ныне тренер Александр Жулин рассказал РИА Новости, что желает удачи украинским фигуристам Александре Назаровой и... РИА Новости Спорт, 26.03.2022

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[Wyliefan]

What an unspeakable jerk.

 

[Karen-W]

Zhulin finally acknowledged Nazarova and Nikitin’s existence, saying they’ve been brainwashed.

Жулин об украинцах на ЧМ: делают все, чтобы их не связывали с Россией

Серебряный и бронзовый призер Олимпийских игр, ныне тренер Александр Жулин рассказал РИА Новости, что желает удачи украинским фигуристам Александре Назаровой и... РИА Новости Спорт, 26.03.2022

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Good God. Can the ISU refuse to credential him at any competitions in the future?

 

[thvu]

I’m so beyond disgusted by Zhulin. I agree with @Karen-W . The ISU should ban him from all future international events. He’s a damn sociopathic monster.

 

[ChelleC]

What I want to say about Zhulin is stuff that would likely get me banned.

If he wants to see brainwashed he needs to look in the mirror.

 

[Jammers]

Zhulin has always been a creep hasn't he?

 

[AYS]

Zhulin has always been a creep hasn't he?

There's run of the mill creep and then there's nth level creep.

 

[MsZem]

At the very least, Zhulin should never again be able to coach any non-Russian teams. It should be clear to anyone that he would not have their best interests at heart - if he even cared about them at all.

 

[taz'smum]

From my own experience of Zhulin, this doesn't surprise me at all.

 

[Ena Grins]

To say that AFTER Nazarova/Nikitin skated the new program they had to create - which was as much a direct political statement as a competitive program - is beyond disgusting.

It does make me think more about Eteri's silence and Shcherbackova, Trusova, and Valieva's absence at the rally. As others have pointed out, they had gymnasts who are minors there, so their age wasn't the issue. I think Eteri and Moskvina are, frankly, smarter than Zhulin and some other coaches/athletes. They see where this is going.

It also makes me wonder if the athletes at the rally had more choice than I originally wanted to believe. There's no way they wouldn't want Shcherbackova (Olympic champion) there or Valieva (the weird video they made of a figure skater being surrounded by soldiers says everything).

 

[I❤️Marina&Sergai]

Good God. Can the ISU refuse to credential him at any competitions in the future?

I totally agree, he consistently says the vilest things. I use to love his skating with Usova but I won’t be able to watch those recordings. Also he is such a hypocrite as when things got rough in Russia he was one of the first skaters out of there and he was happy to live in the West for years.

 

[Karen-W]

I think Eteri and Moskvina are, frankly, smarter than Zhulin and some other coaches/athletes. They see where this is going.

Of this, I have no doubt. I really won't be surprised to see Davis/Smolkin switch feds. Eteri can see the writing on the wall. Moskvina is all set to retire, so she doesn't have to worry about it, but I suspect she's made sure to advise Minchuk and the skaters in their camp to keep their mouths shut and be careful on their social media. It will be interesting to see if a team like Kadyrova/Balchenko makes a federation switch this summer too - maybe Azerbaijan or one of the Baltic republics?

It also makes me wonder if the athletes at the rally had more choice than I originally wanted to believe. There's no way they wouldn't want Shcherbackova (Olympic champion) there or Valieva (the weird video they made of a figure skater being surrounded by soldiers says everything).

I've been convinced of that from the day of the rally. But, I also suspect that, at least with Shcherbakova, she's from a well-educated, upper middle-class family, so they might not be supportive of Putin's War at all.

 

[VGThuy]

Zhulin should be suspended. He’s said things about actual competing skaters that would make me wonder if he’s a safe person to be around them.

 

[caseyedwards]

Why would Russia release any team or skaters?

 

[skatingguy]

Why would Russia release any team or skaters?

They don't have to - ISU can make the decision.

 

[caseyedwards]

They don't have to - ISU can make the decision.

They can do this without the whole Russian federation being suspended?

 

[skatingguy]

They can do this without the whole Russian federation being suspended?

Whether they are suspended or not - the ISU council has the ability to give permission for the change.

 

[millyskate]

Good God. Can the ISU refuse to credential him at any competitions in the future?

I hate it when the Twitter mob lobbies the ISU but this is one instance where I wouldn't be mad...

 

[Karen-W]

I hate it when the Twitter mob lobbies the ISU but this is one instance where I wouldn't be mad...

Same. I hope Skating Twitter goes to town on this like they did on Simon & Nicky this past Wednesday, lol.

 

[MacMadame]

Good God. Can the ISU refuse to credential him at any competitions in the future?

Well, Russia is banned for now anyway so he's not getting a credential any time soon.

They can do this without the whole Russian federation being suspended?

There is a rule that the ISU can release people if their federation won't.

Isn't this like the 5th time we've had this discussion?

 

[MacMadame]

I forgot to say that it takes tremendous gall to tell people who are in a country yours has invaded and, therefore can see exactly what is happening, that they are the ones brainwashed.

 

[Cachoo]

Honestly I don’t even want to place Eteri and Moskvina in the same sentence. After hearing about the drugs in Kamila’s system I am convinced Eteri is some modern day Frankenstein with her girls. I see Moskvina as a honorable coach who does things the right way. Though I was ecstatic for the pairs champion I did feel for Moskvina’s skaters. And I missed Liza but Eteri’s group? Nope. Our world champion is clean. Moskvina represents those Russians that could be part of the solution. Eteri is dirty and Zhulin is despicable.

 

[Bigbird]

At the very least, Zhulin should never again be able to coach any non-Russian teams. It should be clear to anyone that he would not have their best interests at heart - if he even cared about them at all.

Was there ever a doubt?

 

[Vagabond]

Good God. Can the ISU refuse to credential him at any competitions in the future?

That becomes an issue only if Russia is ever again allowed to compete.

Let's worry about peace first.

 

[once_upon]

That becomes an issue only if Russia is ever again allowed to compete.

Let's worry about peace first.

I agree, peace first

But Russia has a lot to clean up in figure skating (and probably all sports), before they should be allowed back into sport competitions

 

[Karen-W]

Honestly I don’t even want to place Eteri and Moskvina in the same sentence. After hearing about the drugs in Kamila’s system I am convinced Eteri is some modern day Frankenstein with her girls. I see Moskvina as a honorable coach who does things the right way. Though I was ecstatic for the pairs champion I did feel for Moskvina’s skaters. And I missed Liza but Eteri’s group? Nope. Our world champion is clean. Moskvina represents those Russians that could be part of the solution. Eteri is dirty and Zhulin is despicable.

In the context of them both being smart enough to recognize that they need to keep their skaters as far away from any political comments or social media witch hunts, I don't have a problem with Eteri & Tamara being lumped into the same sentence. Because I do think that's quite true and, regardless of what we think about their honor as coaches, I wouldn't be one bit surprised if both of them are entirely opposed to this war, albeit for different reasons. Eteri isn't part of the solution, you're right, but she's not stupid enough to be part of the problem. Zhulin, on the other hand...

 

[firstflight]

Do we know if H/K are going to continue, and if so, have they moved on from Zhulin?

 

[Vagabond]

Isn't this like the 5th time we've had this discussion?

Yes, but someone who is cognitively impaired might not recognize that it has been.

 

[taz'smum]

I agree, peace first

But Russia has a lot to clean up in figure skating (and probably all sports), before they should be allowed back into sport competitions

Yup!

 

[Rukia]

I am absolutely disgusted by Zhulin. That's just beyond belief.