History of judges rebellion when a style is too predominant

[Icetigger]

So are we not referring to the dance form and instead mean contemporary as in ‘new’ or ‘recent’ or ‘innovative’? Because Le Parc and/or a lyrical style in ice dance have been around a long time! I apologise if I’ve understood but I think the point stands either way.

ETA: I was taught by my English teacher never to capitalise genres, not in music or dance or literature. So ‘contemporary’ has always been a small c to me and was when I was dancing it. I do not know if this is actually correct and am happy to learn otherwise if it’s not!

In terms of Contemporary Dance (and your points) I think we are agreed with regard to those respective programmes (though I think that Carmen break is maybe a bit towards the judges and narrative driven to qualify without reservation)

Although in terms of Contemporary Dance, don't you think there were elements of it in the P/C 2017 freeskate- , the entry in to the twizzles, the transitions between the twizzles and the Cist, the nod to each other after the Cist..... I would also say some of the transitions in Moonlight Sonata veer more towards Contemporary Dance.

Contemporary Dance isn't normally capitalised........ For me (for example) I would capitalise Minimalism if referring to the specific Western art movement, but not capitalise it if I was using it in a more general sense of thinking about non-Minimalist work of art that can be said to be a product of thinking about art in terms of "the minimal". I don't think there are hard and fast rules, but for me that is the one that makes sense.

 

[Peepsquick]

I hope they rebel soon. I love Papadakis/Cizeron but after a few seasons with the same style and others trying their best to copy that floating look and going to the same coaches, it is getting boring.

It has more to say about the teams trying to emulate them than anything else. I am definitively not bored with P and C performances. Keep them coming, please. I have no doubt they will evolve at their own pace.

 

[Japanfan]

Anyway.
It’s not P and C’s moves or style, it’s their choreography.

Valse Triste and Stay and I wanna hold your hand are similar to anything that P
And C have done.

Valse Triste was in 2007, so it is not possible for V/M to have been mimicking P/C.

 

[starrynight]

Wasn't the intention of the proposal to have a one off 'entertainment bonus' designed to encourage some changes to the free dance styles? Clearly the judges were trying to engineer something with that proposal.

 

[Peepsquick]

Variety among the Dance Teams is Great! What I do not understand is the wish to have teams cycle through genres in the free dance in it does not appeal to them. As a spectator I want to see them show the best they can do and develop their own style as far as they are able to and not cater to the global taste. There definitively will be variety. I also have a hunch that H/D will go in the direction of what V/M did. this last season. So I do not think that lyrical is on everybody‘ s agenda.

 

[starrynight]

Variety among the Dance Teams is Great! What I do not understand is the wish to have teams cycle through genres in the free dance in it does not appeal to them.

I sometimes feel like I don't understand the point of ice dance much if there is not a big focus on entertainment and variety. There are no new jumps to learn or more difficult throws to master, so why not focus on showing changing styles? What else is there to do from season to season otherwise?

Now with the addition of +5 GOE surely there will be such a huge safety blanket for the top team/s, so now would be an ideal time to branch out and try new things.

 

[chantilly]

Valse Triste was in 2007, so it is not possible for V/M to have been mimicking P/C.

I know that was my point

 

[Peepsquick]

I sometimes feel like I don't understand the point of ice dance much if there is not a big focus on entertainment and variety. There are no new jumps to learn or more difficult throws to master, so why not focus on showing changing styles? What else is there to do from season to season otherwise?

Now with the addition of +5 GOE surely there will be such a huge safety blanket for the top team/s, so now would be an ideal time to branch out and try new things.

Where is the lack of entertainment when each Team str ives to find their own style and push their own boundaries? Ice Dance is the one discipline in Figure skating where you can push the artistic boundary instead of the purely technical. There has always been trends in fs, but I enjoy ice Dance couples who follow their own drum beats and artistic impulses(ex. G/P, P/C...). Let us appreciate what they work hard to show us and stop trying to push them to fit in. THAT to me is the most boring of all!