From Russia With Love [#38]: Fall/Winter 2020

Bigbird

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Zhulin is finally coming out of his fog. He will consult doctors. Wow. He does not know if she'll recover for COR. Will there be one? Wow. She had the same problems last season with the other leg! Wow. Now that's dedication. Just please let's not have another Shabalin.
 

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Can you be specific and just spit it put, what exactly you are suggesting? I don’t do very well with hints. And when someone is making allegations, they should have the guts to say exactly what they are saying rather than tiny hints here and there.
I'm not C B but I believe that performance enhancing drugs is the "unless" they are implying.
 

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I'm not C B but I believe that performance enhancing drugs is the "unless" they are implying.
Yes, implying and doesn’t have the guts to say!

All skaters have random drug tests, plus additional tests anytime they win the competition. Russian ladies are winning pretty frequently, most of JGP, GP, JGP and GP final, junior worlds, Europeans and worlds they medal. So implying performance enhancing drugs while they are tested so frequently, that sounds a bit paranoid. I am not saying that in other Russian sports it is not done, I am pretty sure if they could get away they would use it, but I doubt figure skating is one of those sports where this is an issue.
 

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I don't get the hype. I find Bazin rather dull. When Morozov worked with Shibnev, though, don't shoot me, now that was interesting but apparently the work ethic was really low.
The hype is that they are very watchable. I don’t get bored or depressed watching them, unlike watching for example Morozov/Bagin.
I did find Evdokimova/Bazin boring to watch though. So the change of partners is a huge improvement for him.
 

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I don't get the hype. I find Bazin rather dull. When Morozov worked with Shibnev, though, don't shoot me, now that was interesting but apparently the work ethic was really low.

When I saw Khudaiberdieva/Bazin at practice before the test skates, I was really surprised how good they looked together. I did not know what to expect when I heard that they teamed up. I had mainly gone to the rink to see Kazakova/Reviya, but I really enjoyed watching Khudaiberdieva/Bazin and asked them for an interview.
 

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- Three members of Georgia team, dancers Kazakova/Reviya and single Irakli Maysuradze, withdraw from Grand-Prix Moscow, no explanations.

- Kostornaya announced her music for FS: soundtracks from "Romeo and Juliette", "Dance for Me Wallis" and "Nocturnal Animals".
What? R & J for Aliona? But Sasha is doing R & J too. How could Plushenko allow this? Sasha is already frustrated (allegedly) that Aliona the most beautiful figure skater in the world followed her to PA! :eek: I cant believe AK is touching R & J in any way! But Im sure she will mke it work for her. Eteris junior Maya is also doing a lovely R & J. Hmmmm. That was also announced after it was made public that Sasha was doing Romeo and Juliet. Its not going to be much a normal figure skating season. But the Russian ladies will keep us interested. :40beers:
 

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Kostornaia are Trusova are using different, single tracks from Abel Korzeniowski's Romeo and Juliet film soundtrack in their respective free skates.

"Come, Gentle Night" (middle section) for Trusova, plus 1 track from the 1996 R&J film soundtrack (first section) and selections from Prokofiev's R&J ballet (last section): http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00102760.htm
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Aren't these 2 essentially the same piece of music composed by Prokofiev?
Montagues & Capulets (from "Romeo and Juliet" soundtrack)
Dance of the Knights (from "Romeo and Juliet") by Sergei Prokofiev

"The Cheek of Night" for Kostornaia, along with 2 other tracks from 2 different film soundtracks by Korzeniowski: http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00102764.htm

Here's a new clip of Kostornaia skating to what sounds like the end of the Nocturnal Animals section to the W.E. part: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGnBSy9IRxQ/

Kostornaia previously skated to Korzeniowski's "Forbidden Love" track in her Romeo & Juliet mashup FS (also music from the 1996 film & by Nino Rota) in the 2018-19 season.
 
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zoe111

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Kostornaia are Trusova are using different, single tracks from Abel Korzeniowski's Romeo and Juliet film soundtrack in their respective free skates.

"Come, Gentle Night" (middle section) for Trusova, plus 1 track from the 1996 R&J film soundtrack (first section) and selections from Prokofiev's R&J ballet (last section): http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00102760.htm
ETA:
Aren't these 2 essentially the same piece of music composed by Prokofiev?
Montagues & Capulets (from "Romeo and Juliet" soundtrack)
Dance of the Knights (from "Romeo and Juliet") by Sergei Prokofiev

"The Cheek of Night" for Kostornaia, along with 2 other tracks from 2 different film soundtracks by Korzeniowski: http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00102764.htm

Here's a new clip of Kostornia skating to what sounds like the end of the Nocturnal Animals section to the W.E. part: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGnBSy9IRxQ/

Kostornaia previously skated to Korzeniowski's "Forbidden Love" track in her Romeo & Juliet mashup FS (also music from the 1996 film & by Nino Rota) in the 2018-19 season.
Ooh. I quite like the looks of what she’s doing so far
 

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Liza Tuktamysheva's pre-Sochi Russian Cup event update (from Mrs. Mishina). She practiced her 4T but no clean landings. It is too risky now to include it in the FS. She will include her 3A into SP, and two 3A's in FS. She has every intention to continue to work on the the quad and to include it if not in the event, then in the next one.
 

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All Butsaeva's (Volchkova's) junior skaters from "Moskvich" rink had to withdraw from the Russian Cup #3. Due to quarantine their rink is closed most of the time, only few skaters on the Russian and Moscow teams were allowed to practice.
 

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Khrystalniy Dance class, Zheleznyakov instructor. (Valieva, Shcherbakova, Uscheva, Khromykh, Akatieva, M. Kvitelashvili

Pavluchenko/Khodykin, creating the exhibition number with Betina Popova/choreographer (the number itself is at the end of the video).
 
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Kostornaya skating to the same music that her rival skates to? They train at the same camp (albeit different times?) and Trusova has already debuted her program - so I suppose it isn't hard to avoid the clash if wanted. This sounds very Witt to me. Especially since she already skated to the music 2 seasons ago.
 

zoe111

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Kostornaya skating to the same music that her rival skates to? They train at the same camp (albeit different times?) and Trusova has already debuted her program - so I suppose it isn't hard to avoid the clash if wanted. This sounds very Witt to me. Especially since she already skated to the music 2 seasons ago.
Actually if you look at the selections, they are not the same. Trusova's are all R&J including dance of the knights and another that sound almost identical to each other. Kostornaia is using The cheek of the night, Dance for me Wallis and Wayward Sisters both by Korzeniowski. No piece of music is the same.
 

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Anna Pogorilaya and Andrei Nevsky are expecting a baby
 

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Artur Danielian: German doctors have revealed the real cause of my problem

The vice-champion of Russia and Europe in men's figure skating last season, 16-year-old Artur Danielian, told Anatoly Samokhvalov about a successful operation in Germany for ankle problems and shared his optimism about his imminent return to the ice.

- Artur, as far as I understand, the operation in Germany was successful?
- Yes, that is right. I would not say that I feel relieved, but I am glad that the doctors identified the true cause of my ankle problem, because before that I had gone through a sufficient number of doctors, their opinions either converged or diverged, but, thanks to our federation, I was sent for a consultation at Munich. Thank you for helping with visas and flights as well. I flew through Turkey , but they didn’t want to let me into Germany for a long time. It was very difficult and funny to overcome passport control at the same time, demanded one paper after another, called the clinic. It was already physically difficult to return, since my leg was in a cast, but my sister and I, who flew with me, were lucky - we got three seats on the plane for two and I was able to comfortably position my leg. Now all that remains is to recover.

- You started the season almost as planned. Something went wrong?
- I already got in shape, everything was fine, I was preparing for the test skates, they put on a new free program, the short one was left the same. The leg bothered me, of course, but not so much that I paid much attention to it. But the loads were all the same reduced, then they were removed completely, again gained momentum. I trained in jumps, and at some point there was severe pain. They began to find out what's what.

- Did the Germans immediately understand what was the matter?
- Yes. Initially, our federation sent them my MRI scans, they looked and said that they understand this problem, that they need to come and, perhaps, they need surgery. We flew to Munich promptly, I was examined by Dr. Schneider , they made me a new MRI and sent me to a specialist who deals directly with operations and who operated on many football players and other athletes. He quickly figured out the specifics of my problem and literally in four days I had an operation. I lay in the hospital for a couple of days and was released.

- How is the rehabilitation going?
- Starting next week, it will be necessary to remove one part that fixes the ankle, and I will begin to gently stretch my leg so that it returns to normal. We coordinate all actions with German doctors, we receive their recommendations, there is no point in speeding up the training process. Of course, I would like to start working on the ice faster.

- Do doctors give forecasts for recovery and how serious is the problem now?
- They said that the problem was solved, it remains to adhere to the recommendations, and then everything will be fine. There are no specific forecasts yet, it all depends on how soon the leg will be developed.

- Does the situation threaten your sports career?
- No longer, everything is fine. The coaches asked me if I was ready for the operation or not, I answered without hesitation that yes. After all, I am only 16 years old, my whole career is ahead, I want to please and delight all my fans. And even before the visit to Germany there was no critical state of affairs, it was just necessary to do something.

- Is there a chance that you can compete this season?
- I hope so because I want to show a new free program, new elements that I would like to restore as soon as possible. In general, I hope for the best and I am sure that everything will be fine. I am always in touch with the coaches, they support me and are waiting for me to resume work.

- Many skaters miss the stages of the Russian Cup for various reasons, apparently, the selection for the Russian Championship will not be very strict. Do you dream to recover by December?
- I will do my best on my own, my coaches, my doctors, as well as German doctors will help me in this, and my leg, which, I hope, will go through a quick rehabilitation without problems.

- Tell us about the new free program.
This is "Scheherazade" staged by Nikita Mikhailov, the program includes three musical parts. The music is very cool, the program is pompous, the costume is awesome! It remains only to go to the start and show it.

- Do you follow figure skating of the current season?
- I follow everyone, sometimes even with tears.

- Even so?
- Little. I shed two tears before the September skates, at which I was as a spectator, because I was preparing for them as an athlete, I was ready to perform, but a couple of weeks before them my leg gave out, and I had to withdraw. Then he decided that the situation was not the end of the world, there was no need for tears, everything would be fine.

- Who do you admire this season?
- I am very happy for Misha Kolyada , he returned and skated both of his excellent programs very cool. The rest of the guys also made progress, they all grew up. Good luck to everyone and get along without injuries! The girls have such a struggle now that it is even impossible to single out someone, and not everyone has performed at the starts yet. We must wait for the Russian championship, when everyone is at their peak and can show their maximum.

- Is it surprising that the skaters managed to recover so quickly, despite the pause due to the ******** *********?
- No, it’s not surprising, after all, we all did every day, carried out several trainings a day, albeit not on ice. I managed to keep in shape, and then it was only a small matter - to roll out the skates, achieve proper coordination and enter the competition. In the meantime, I want to say thank you to all my fans - for their support, for waiting for me. I hope that after this interview the situation will become clearer to them and they will not worry about me so much. I would like to thank my coaches - Elena Germanovna (Buyanova), Marina Leonidovna (Selitskaya), Uspensky Alexander Sergeevich, Zavozin Maxim Igorevich, Irina Anvarovna (Tagaeva), our federation for their experiences, for their help and everyone, everyone, everyone. Time is very precious now, everything must be done quickly.

Buyanova: Danielian showed a steely character, deciding on an operation

“I was pleasantly surprised by Artur's steely character, who was very focused and firm beyond his years in his decisions, realizing that we need to do everything possible so that the leg recovers. We, as a whole team, hope that all problems will finally pass us because I don't want the athlete to be constantly accompanied by pain. I understand that Artur is very tired of this and, thank God, that there have been dramatic changes, "Buyanova said by phone.

"I am very glad that he has such a core and a desire to return to the ice as soon as possible. Our team will make every effort to make Artur delight the audience again. Because he has been staged a very successful free program, and last year's short program has not yet exhausted itself. This season he a little different, God grant him patience and health ", - added the specialist. “On my own behalf, I want to thank the federation for the very prompt assistance in organizing the consultation and operation in Germany in such a difficult period when we all feared the closure of borders. I would like to say thank you to all Arthur's fans who always support him,” she said.
 
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Scott512

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Anna Pogorilaya and Andrei Nevsky are expecting a baby
I hope its a girl as Anna is beautiful. Congrats to both. :40beers:
 

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All Butsaeva's (Volchkova's) junior skaters from "Moskvich" rink had to withdraw from the Russian Cup #3. Due to quarantine their rink is closed most of the time, only few skaters on the Russian and Moscow teams were allowed to practice.
Is that Viktoria Volchkova?

Sorry to hear about the quarantine. Europe is getting hit hard with *********.
 

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Kanysheva/Pylin's competitive debut hit some snags. They were last place in the FD with four deductions, including him falling on a twizzle and them falling on top of each other in a lift. :yikes: Maybe they weren't quite ready to compete so soon after all, it was a mess. It's too bad, because I think there was a good FD in there somewhere.

Junior FD:

 

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Kanysheva/Pylin's competitive debut hit some snags. They were last place in the FD with four deductions, including him falling on a twizzle and them falling on top of each other in a lift. :yikes: Maybe they weren't quite ready to compete so soon after all, it was a mess. It's too bad, because I think there was a good FD in there somewhere.

Junior FD:

No where to go but up!!
 

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