From Russia With Love (#36) Spring into Summer 2020

Bigbird

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I saw small snippets of the Stolbova interview, but clueless as to what she was saying.

She looked a little haggard but then when mounting her comeback she looked a bit stressed. I really hope she can turn the corner and start a new chapter in her life. Is she 30 yet?
 

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Maxim Kovtun interview "Gazeta.ru": Skating, life then and after, transiting from skating, commercial shows, Tutberidze show vs Averbuch, Navka, view of other coaches/skaters, events.
In good "literary" russian (no slang or idioms) - google-translates well.
 
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Boykova/Kozlovsky's coach is speaking. Their situation seems very odd. They had a choice of going to a training camp but chose not to (claiming it is due to State School Exams). Now it sounds like the completion of programmes is the issues. I understand that "just skating around" without programmes is not a path to gold, but getting back on skates and practicing the set elements and jumps could not hurt.... :)
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From Tamara Moskvina's club - coach Artur Minchuk: "Boykova and Kozlovsky want to work, but at present are forced into idleness/to rest. There is no full-fledged coaching work taking place either".

The team, due to xxxxx xxxxx, was not able to complete the FS programme for the team in collaboration with Nikolay Morozov.

(the rest is google-translation with some corrections)

Tamara Moskvina's Club coach, Arthur Minchuk, said that European champions Alexandra Boykova and Dmitry Kozlovsky because of the xxxxxxxxxxxx could not deliver a new free program (in plans) with Nikolai Morozov.

“We set up another programme/FS before the World Championship dates with Igor Bobrin. We were able to win a very valuable time between the European and World Championship.

Of course, at that time we did not know that the World Championship would be canceled. They just decided that during that time we will be able to put on an exhibition number, the beginning of a short program and the basis for the free skate.

Given that Nikolai (Morozov) is in the United States, we, unfortunately, have to postpone this joint effort (cooperation, planned work). It’s not clear at all what the next season will look like” said Minchuk.

Minchuk also spoke about the new short program Boykova and Kozlovsky, which Alexander Zhulin started to develop.

“The idea of a short one is very interesting, but so far it has not been brought to the form that was conceived. They wanted to invite Alexander Zhulin after the Worlds, but because of the *********, they remained with the existing programs. As they will be allowed to train, maybe he will come to us, maybe we will come to him.

Sasha and Dima want to work, but so far they have to rest and train at their summer cottages, periodically. But this is all such an extramural training process. Sasha participated in the berpie/(silly internet challenge) tournament yet.

We do not have full-fledged coaching work. Online, via skype, with recorded video ... Well, what really can be determined by a recording? ” - added the coach.
 
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Kolyada is going to Novogorsk for camp


 

hanca

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Not quite sure how she can go to Novogorsk, when no-one is supposed to be entering and leaving in the 21 days lockdown session?
Why should there be different rules for her than for anyone else? She is going there the same way as other skaters do.
 

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That was an interesting interview. She has had a very interesting career, lots of ups and down but still a passion for figure skating. Plushenko didn’t seem to be involved with her training, I hope he is more involved with Trusova and Konstantinova. I was surprised with her take on Rukavitsyn, I would have always got the impression his skaters liked him and he was good to them.

It’s funny how a career develops. Herself and Evgenia were battling it out in ’13 - ‘15 but they went in very different directions from there. I’m not sure she would have survived with Eteri for to long. I enjoy her skating but I think her jumps are a bit scrappy. She could make Euro, Worlds and Olympics for many countries but has no chance in Russia. Sadly not the only lady in that position.
 

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It’s funny how a career develops. Herself and Evgenia were battling it out in ’13 - ‘15 but they went in very different directions from there.
It was not only Sakhanovich, it was four very promising girls - Medvedeva, Sakhanovich, Sotskova and Proklova. In their first junior season, I actually liked most Sakhanovich and Proklova. Sakhanovich had a very nice basic skating, powerful skating, very soft knee and good interpretation of her programs. Proklova had a lot of energy and fire/passion within her. At the end, those two ended up lower than Medvedeva and Sotskova.
Proklova had injury and retired, Sakhanovich never reached the potential that was showing in juniors and the highest competitions of her career was attending three GP events and ending up 7th, 5th and 8th. In comparison, Sotskova at least attended Olympics (8th), twice worlds (both times also 8th), twice Europeans (both times 4th). And Medvedeva turned out the be most successful from all of them.

it is similar story with Gubanova, Nugumanova and Tsurskaya. Gubanova and Nugumanova were really promising pre-junior, far ahead of their peers. By the time they got to juniors, the others were catching up and Gubanova and Nugumanova’s results were pretty modest in comparison with the potential they shown early on. And in seniors, they are now on comparable journey with Sakhanovich. And Tsurskaya had success in juniors and then ended up like Proklova - injury and retirement. I really enjoy watching junior ladies, but one can never guess who will make it and who won’t.
 

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I really liked Medvedeva and Sotskova when they were young, but Sakhanovich was my favorite among them at the time. I liked that she skated into her knees more than the others.
 

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Boykova/Kozlovsky's coach is speaking. Their situation seems very odd. They had a choice of going to a training camp but chose not to (claiming it is due to State School Exams). Now it sounds like the completion of programmes is the issues. I understand that "just skating around" without programmes is not a path to gold, but getting back on skates and practicing the set elements and jumps could not hurt.... :)
Nor the guys, nor their coaches said that the programs (or 'competition on programs' as you said) is the reason why they are skipping the first training camp.
Especially since they are not the only ones who decided to stay where they are and wait, the whole Moskvina group (including Mishina/Gallyamov and Petr Gumennik) is in St Petersburg for now.

Also, here is another quite from Minchuk:
When we are allowed to train in St. Petersburg, we will start training here, and then, according to our preliminary plan, we would like to go to Kislovodsk. I think we won't go to Novogorsk in the near future. But the first training camp, in any case, will be in St. Petersburg because Alexandra is passing the exams, and the last one is in mid-July. The main thing for us right now is that Sasha passes her exams, so we’re not twitching anywhere"

As for exams, usually the graduates have to pass these State Exams after graduation from school. Maths and Russian are two obligatory exams and if you fail - you don't get a school degree and have to wait for one more year. Also these exams work as an enrollment for universities - more points you get, better chances you have. For example, Aleksandra said that she wants to get a degree in journalism, so she has to pass two obligatory exams and also Literature and Social studies. Skaters who go to the Institutes of Physical education to get a coaching degree, usually pass two obligatory exams + biology.

This year it's determined that all students will get their school degrees no matter if they pass the obligatory exams or fail. Also, it's a long-standing practice that some Sports universities (at least in St Petersburg/Moscow) make an exceptions for outstanding athletes. For example, Sofia Samodurova (she is also graduating this year) doesn't need to pass biology and get the highest points in order to get to the St Petersburg Sports university since she has a European gold medal. I guess it will be the same with Alina Zagitova and Moscow University of Physical education. So they will pass these exams and all, but those exams are not necessary for them to be enrolled in Universities.
And in Aleksandra's case these exams are crucial, since she wants to get a degree in non-sports related sphere and in one of the country's best universities.
 
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For example, Sofia Samodurova (she is also graduating this year) doesn't need to pass biology and get the highest points in order to get to the St Petersburg Sports university since she has a European gold medal. I guess it will be the same with Alina Zagitova and Moscow University of Physical education. So they will pass these exams and all, but those exams are not necessary for them to be enrolled in Universities.
And in Aleksandra's case these exams are crucial, since she wants to get a degree in non-sports related sphere and in one of the country's best universities.
Interesting. So does that mean the athletes who get admitted to the sports universities have to do a 'sports related' degree?

What counts as that? Human movements? Physiotherapy?
 

Ka3sha

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Interesting. So does that mean the athletes who get admitted to the sports universities have to do a 'sports related' degree?

What counts as that? Human movements? Physiotherapy?
It doesn’t mean they have to. Just usually athletes try to get this coaching degree while they are still competing, because you can’t start officially coaching (aka got implored by the Fed or any state rink) until you get this type of diploma.
And after that they can get another non-sports related diploma if they want to proceed with their studies.
 

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