From Russia with love [#28]: Autumn to Winter 2017

They left their most reliable skater at home. That was Sergei Voronov. He proved it for the entire season. He was a bit rough at Nationals but you know he would have shown more grit. But all this is pointless, they chose their team and they performed decently considering, I wish they would just move on rather than making this seem like WWIII or something. Ugh.
 
A surprisingly sane comment from Pluschenko, though as usual he contradicts himself: on one hand claiming putting the 4lz in the SP was a right thing to do for Kolyada since he lands that jump in the practices, hence no reason not doing that in a competition; on theo ther hand claiming Kolyada has a technical problem with a 4z and needs to consult Mishin
 
Elkmaria said:
The problem with Ashley's tweet is definitely context. If taken out of context, her statement is quite accurate - I doubt that many people consider Alina's programs perfectly structured (for the sake of beauty, not points). But the context is that Ashley is Alina's direct competitor, and not a more successful one at the moment. So even if she didn't mean to be bitter, she sounded bitter anyway, and her emotional choice of words didn't help. I'm sure that if this statement came from a retired skater or an expert, it wouldn't cause so much controversy.
And Buttle's opinion is an example of saying the same thing with way more class and humour.
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True, I agree with some of her comments but finally, we are all nobodies, but hear those comments of other skaters must be a little upsetting. Especially because it seems that Ashley´s problem is always Russian ladies skaters. I don´t remember she being so critic toward American skaters, they have a lot of problems, in my opinion, the most balanced skaters are the Japanese. Honestly, Russian skaters have a lot of stuff to criticize about Ashley but I never read about Evgenia, Alina or Yulia doing it and they are teens but they seem so mature and focused on their own work.
 
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Landing a jump in practice means very little when your success rate is less than 10% in competition. That's pretty elementary.
 
TAHbKA said:
A surprisingly sane comment from Pluschenko, though as usual he contradicts himself: on one hand claiming putting the 4lz in the SP was a right thing to do for Kolyada since he lands that jump in the practices, hence no reason not doing that in a competition; on theo ther hand claiming Kolyada has a technical problem with a 4z and needs to consult Mishin
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Kolyada needs to get his head on straight. It's not his technique that's the problem. He skates best if everybody politely talks among themselves while he skates and there's no pressure. Aliev would have been the same risk. There's a reason Rukavicin has no hair.
 
rfisher said:
Kolyada needs to get his head on straight. It's not his technique that's the problem. He skates best if everybody politely talks among themselves while he skates and there's no pressure. Aliev would have been the same risk. There's a reason Rukavicin has no hair.
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Kolyada's best performances (both clean) were at the 2016 worlds. It was his first worlds. There was no pressure. He skated early in the SP, made the final group for the FS and finished just off the podium. The world took notice. The expectations built up and he couldn't deliver anymore. I don't think he will in the future either. It takes a certain amount of mental strength that produces champions. Plushenko had it. Yagudin had it. Kulik had it. I do believe that an athlete either has it or he/she doesn't.

I hope Misha will make me eat my words. :)
 
rfisher said:
Kolyada needs to get his head on straight. It's not his technique that's the problem. He skates best if everybody politely talks among themselves while he skates and there's no pressure. Aliev would have been the same risk. There's a reason Rukavicin has no hair.
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After ECH Plush said Kolyada has technical problem with the 4Lz. So this opinion is a continuation of it.
 
Kulik was my absolute favourite at the time. But he was a headcase too. He won Euros out of nothing, then with all eyes on him bombed worlds and was 9th (12th or something after the sp).

His results went up and down, in 1996 he was only 3rd at Euros, loosing to teammate Igor Pashkevitch, but was still sent to worlds (which made Pashkevitch switch to AZE). Good for Ilia, as he skated very well there and was one 3f away from winning the whole thing.

His first season with Tarasova was a mess, 3a causing all kinds of problem, no medals at euros/worlds. Then he put it together the season it counted the most. But really, he was killing me. Headcase, heartbreak indeed! Not like Plush and Yags, who was both very reliable.
 
@Vash01 im not sure if it's as easy as has it/has it not, when it comes to mental strength that produces champions:) I agree mental strenght is of course needed. But for some it can be acquired or learned, in the most hopeless cases. It can come through experience and age - like Aliev, I actually believe he's on the right track, he's much more consistent this season than last year. Or Carolina.

It can come through switching to the right environment - like Butyrskaya, who clearly found herself with Tcahikovskaya, like Angela Nikodonov, or Adam with Raf, or Mirai, who says training for Tom S. works so well for her, because she's allowed to make mistakes, and is not expected to be perfect every time she skates.

Some perform better and more consistent after becoming a parent, like Suzanna Babiakova, as they get a different perspective on life. Some work with a sports psychologist and manages to overcome the problem.

Of course, some just have it, right off the booth, like Kwan or Plush. For Kolyada I hope the remedy is to compete, compete, compete. If he lands those jumps with good enough ratio in practice, he has to start landing them in competition sooner or later. Or water down, like Aliev, and gain consistency and confidence through lots of clean skates with only the quad toe, then add more later. Key is also to not loose the goodwill and trust of his federation. They should keep supporting him, they might get a diamond in return. I mean, they kept believing in Kovtun all those years, why not Misha. Some feds are good at giving skaters the time they need. I believe that's essential. But of course...Misha could be a hopeless case. Like Brezina or Sandhu....:gallopin1
 
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rfisher said:
Kolyada needs to get his head on straight. It's not his technique that's the problem. He skates best if everybody politely talks among themselves while he skates and there's no pressure. Aliev would have been the same risk. There's a reason Rukavicin has no hair.
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Let's keep talking polite about them. We need some Russian dummy skater to take the pressure off our men!
 
SmallFairy said:
Let's keep talking polite about them. We need some Russian dummy skater to take the pressure off our men!
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Is not it wonderful that Japanese men do need any conversations about American dummy skaters to take pressure of their men... they are excellent on their own.:D
 
Ka3sha said:
For those , who have missed Julia on the ice , promo video for Ilinykh/Lipnitskaya’s academy. The full version should be uploaded soon on their vk page
https://instagram.com/p/BfJdewNnxvR/
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I would love a miracle, the unexpected, against all odds: Elena finding a new partner, and becoming top 3 in Russia... :D ... and there are rumors of all sorts on russian forums and blogs.... one even went as far as saying that "Elena had a secret try out skate with Katzalapov during summer 2017" and etc... :D (not that believe it)..
 
Vash01 said:
Kolyada's best performances (both clean) were at the 2016 worlds. It was his first worlds. There was no pressure. He skated early in the SP, made the final group for the FS and finished just off the podium. The world took notice. The expectations built up and he couldn't deliver anymore. I don't think he will in the future either. It takes a certain amount of mental strength that produces champions. Plushenko had it. Yagudin had it. Kulik had it. I do believe that an athlete either has it or he/she doesn't.

I hope Misha will make me eat my words. :)
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I remember at those worlds when people were talking about the unreal expectations and pressures the fed were dumping on the men right out of the gate so they could have a immediate replacement for Plushy.

People were thrilled that Kolydaya was able to skate under the radar, for the most part, and develop at his own pace. Because unlike Maxim, Sergey or Artur Kolydaya has had it pretty easy when to comes to the fed.

Sadly he just doesn't seem to have the mental toughness. At least with the other men you could argue the fed destroyed them. You can't argue that with Kolydaya because unlikely them he had time.

I hope he can find whatever is wrong inside and fix it because he does have talent
 
Anastasia Bryzgalova-- Russian curler-- is flat out gorgeous. She won bronze in the mixed doubles. She's all over social media with tons of people deciding they like curling. Her husband/partner isn't bad, but she's beautiful. Apparently, NBC is reshowing their bronze medal match a lot. :lol: The camaraman pretty much ignores everybody but her.
 
rfisher said:
Anastasia Bryzgalova-- Russian curler-- is flat out gorgeous. She won bronze in the mixed doubles. She's all over social media with tons of people deciding they like curling. Her husband/partner isn't bad, but she's beautiful. Apparently, NBC is reshowing their bronze medal match a lot. :lol: The camaraman pretty much ignores everybody but her.
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She looks a little bit like Angelina Jolie https://www.curling.adamant.ru/files/mdata/4/414021116144252.jpg
I love it that she is married to her "business partner" and it is a common interest that brought them together.
 
rfisher said:
Anastasia Bryzgalova-- Russian curler-- is flat out gorgeous. She won bronze in the mixed doubles. She's all over social media with tons of people deciding they like curling. Her husband/partner isn't bad, but she's beautiful. Apparently, NBC is reshowing their bronze medal match a lot. :lol: The camaraman pretty much ignores everybody but her.
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YEs, my husband also a fan of her :D He didn't care about curling before..:lol:
 
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Bigbird said:
Trankov just likes to interfere unnecessarily unto the affairs of others. It's actually quite rude and I wish more persons would call him out for it. I don't find him appealing in any respect, in large part to his personality.
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Huh? He does not interfere with any business. He is very polite and respectful.
 
Madison25 said:
Thank you for the interview! Really interesting and comprehensive.
How did Daniil G. seem to you in person?
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Smart and really nice young man, well spoken, enthusiastic about his work. He smiled a lot and he sincerely cares about his students, it seems. But I think when needed he can be very, very demanding. I really enjoyed talking to him.
For the article I got permission from Mikhail Sharov to use his photos, he has a lot of great ones, it was not easy to choose, but this was my favourite gallery, a lot of moments from Daniil's work with Zhenia:
https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mihsersh/album/545542/
 
Tinami Amori said:
She looks a little bit like Angelina Jolie https://www.curling.adamant.ru/files/mdata/4/414021116144252.jpg
I love it that she is married to her "business partner" and it is a common interest that brought them together.
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Back in the Cold War days, the US used to joke about all those macho Russian women, built to pull a plow. The only sexy ones were spies entrapping our good guys.

Now you can't turn on your TV without looking at some gorgeous Russianactress or athlete. (The one who played Nina on The Americans melted my husband to goo.) Either the end of communism created a gigantic national makeover or we Americans were not getting an accurate picture back in the day. ;)
 
MAXSwagg said:
Huh? He does not interfere with any business. He is very polite and respectful.
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:rofl: The day he is Tanya may have to take him for a check-up. :drama:

EDIT: Seriously though, why did the dancers and ladies go back to Japan to train? Isn't that exhausting? Doesn't their competition start pretty soon? I found that rather odd. Oh well.
 
Bigbird said:
:rofl: The day he is Tanya may have to take him for a check-up. :drama:

EDIT: Seriously though, why did the dancers and ladies go back to Japan to train? Isn't that exhausting? Doesn't their competition start pretty soon? I found that rather odd. Oh well.
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Ice time - helps to have more time on the ice and maintain a regular training schedule - still the better part of a week before either of those events start.
 
skatingguy said:
Ice time - helps to have more time on the ice and maintain a regular training schedule - still the better part of a week before either of those events start.
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Gotcha. The girls are pretty young so I see no issues with this. I'd be concerned more about overdoing it if I were B/S. My feeling is if you haven't gotten those levels by now(rhumba) or you haven't cleaned up that knee lift by now, trying to do that now could cause more harm than good. But let them do what they must.
 
reut said:
Smart and really nice young man, well spoken, enthusiastic about his work. He smiled a lot and he sincerely cares about his students, it seems. But I think when needed he can be very, very demanding. I really enjoyed talking to him.
For the article I got permission from Mikhail Sharov to use his photos, he has a lot of great ones, it was not easy to choose, but this was my favourite gallery, a lot of moments from Daniil's work with Zhenia:
https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mihsersh/album/545542/
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Thank you for the answer! You did a great job with the article. I look forward to new articles in the same direction.
 
love_skate2011 said:
So Fedor isnt ready to retire ??
but I whom he can partner with, maybe Astakhova if Rogonov retires ? Zabijako is too tall for him. The rest are junior or inexpreienced skaters. Not that many to choose from

unless he wants a Peng/Zhang like partnership
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Bazarova
 
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