Carreira/Ponomarenko Need a Cheer Thread

[trainingdogs82]

It is amazing given pre season predictions Green & Parsons are fighting to just hang onto bronze at Nationals. They seem to have absolutely no shot, even at silver, when some were widly speculating pre season they would be the team to push Chock & Bates, and fly past Hawayek & Baker.

 

[Andora]

No, I don't think so. Maybe 60-40 in their favor, I'd wager.

Ahhhh - hopefully more 55-45, for wildly optimistic Sagittarians like me then.

Depends on who you ask hahaha. I'd say the odds are in Green/Parsons favor, but also we haven't seen them compete against each other. Hoping for an epic Charlie White/Madison Hubbell staredown backstage (while Scott is confused).

Not to take away from Charlie's potential "papa bear" attitude for his teams, but I would peg Scott as more of a scrappy bitch along Ms Hubbell's lines. Maybe a Tanith/Madison staredown backstage while Scott and Charlie take it out to the hockey arena and jersey each other? (I hope I have that term right)

It is amazing given pre season predictions Green & Parsons are fighting to just hang onto bronze at Nationals. They seem to have absolutely no shot, even at silver, when some were widly speculating pre season they would be the team to push Chock & Bates, and fly past Hawayek & Baker.

Insert joke about getting lost and ending up in the Green & Parsons thread here. I kind of kid, because it's wonderful what a revelation Christina & Anthony have been this year after being written off.

But... am I the only one picking up on small linking moves in Car/Pom's FD that are too similar to V&M's last few competitive programs? Before we attack the former V&M uber here, I'm calling out Scott's lack of ingenuity more than anything.

 

[ccpompom]

I don't really see any resemblance to anything done by VM. i do see some h&d moves that are very subtle but in my opinion their FD is something that hasn't really been done in the past

 

[Andora]

I don't really see any resemblance to anything done by VM. i do see some h&d moves that are very subtle but in my opinion their FD is something that hasn't really been done in the past

Sorry - yes, to be clear, I don't think their program is like other teams. That's why I mentioned linking moves in particular.

(I don't think either V&M nor H&D would be able to do the lifts Christina and Anthony have taken on this year, certainly not as well)

 

[RoseRed]

Ahhhh - hopefully more 55-45, for wildly optimistic Sagittarians like me then.



Not to take away from Charlie's potential "papa bear" attitude for his teams, but I would peg Scott as more of a scrappy bitch along Ms Hubbell's lines. Maybe a Tanith/Madison staredown backstage while Scott and Charlie take it out to the hockey arena and jersey each other? (I hope I have that term right)



Insert joke about getting lost and ending up in the Green & Parsons thread here. I kind of kid, because it's wonderful what a revelation Christina & Anthony have been this year after being written off.

But... am I the only one picking up on small linking moves in Car/Pom's FD that are too similar to V&M's last few competitive programs? Before we attack the former V&M uber here, I'm calling out Scott's lack of ingenuity more than anything.

Well, Scott's not listed as a choreographer for them this season. Madison, Adrian and Marie-France are.

 

[chameleonster]

I'm going to go with 65-35 because I'm superstitious and don't want to jinx them, but I'm really proud of them and their progress! It's also nice to see them looking happy at competitions, they've talked about recovering their joy and confidence for skating. I'm really looking forward to how they develop over the next six weeks now that they've gotten some mileage on their programs. Nationals is also going to be home ice for Anthony so I hope they have good performances to remember!

 

[sap5]

Sorry - yes, to be clear, I don't think their program is like other teams. That's why I mentioned linking moves in particular.

(I don't think either V&M nor H&D would be able to do the lifts Christina and Anthony have taken on this year, certainly not as well)

I remember when Scott started choreographing, and then opened his school, there were so many that predicted that any program he worked on would just be a rehash of a VM program. I'm very happy to see how each of the IAMO teams have programs that seem suited to them and their skills. This is a credit to all the IAMO and IAM coaches.

 

[chameleonster]

Carreira & Ponomarenko reflect on their journey so far – Ice-dance.com

www.ice-dance.com

Nice interview with the two of them, very positive and optimistic. I've always liked that their moms were so enthusiastic about their partnership, and Klimova especially appreciating Christina's talent. I look forward to how they look at Nats in a few weeks!

 

[chameleonster]

TikTok - Make Your Day

Christina posted a clip of that combo lift, the rotations are much tighter and more secure!

 

[Rukia]

I hope someone's been stopwatching that lift too because I do not need the trauma of an extended lift deduction this week

 

[litenkyckling]

TikTok - Make Your Day

Christina posted a clip of that combo lift, the rotations are much tighter and more secure!

It looks like they’ve changed how she gets into the rotational lift slightly (no longer over his shoulder) so hopefully that keeps it under the time limit!

 

[ccpompom]

They worked on the exit too! It's so much more nuanced and detailed than before! Love the matching arms.
their lines are so good this season. I'm excited for the improvements they made

 

[litenkyckling]

They worked on the exit too! It's so much more nuanced and detailed than before! Love the matching arms.
their lines are so good this season. I'm excited for the improvements they made

I’ll be interested to see if they’ve kept the assisted jumps or not - after LaLa got rid of theirs it got me thinking as they seem hard to get high goe for. But Scott did say that he really likes the assisted jump element

 

[Wyliefan]

Aren't assisted jumps required now?

 

[RoseRed]

Aren't assisted jumps required now?

No, that's just one of the options for choreo elements. A lot of teams are using it, maybe because it's new, but it's not required.

 

[DreamSkates]

It is amazing given pre season predictions Green & Parsons are fighting to just hang onto bronze at Nationals. They seem to have absolutely no shot, even at silver, when some were widly speculating pre season they would be the team to push Chock & Bates, and fly past Hawayek & Baker.

Just read in another discussion post that H & B are out of Nationals. This will shake things up for the podium except that C & B are likely to earn gold.
Just noticed the thread title so adding....I hope C & P are on the podium!

 

[Karen-W]

Just read in another discussion post that H & B are out of Nationals. This will shake things up for the podium except that C & B are likely to earn gold.
Just noticed the thread title so adding....I hope C & P are on the podium!

Well, seeing as there are 4 podium spots at US Nats, it seemed a pretty good bet, even before HawBak withdrew, that CarPon would be on the podium. ;-)

 

[trainingdogs82]

Would Hawayek & Baker's petition to go worlds be accepted almost for sure if able/ready to skate? I would say yes based on recent bypassing National results and their results this season, but curious if that is a consensus here.

So Carreira & Ponomarenko probably would still have to beat out Green & Parsons to make it to worlds. I hope they can, but it will be a challenge. I am rooting for them though. I like Green & Parsons too but this season their skating and programs are a dissapointment to me after the excitement of them last season.

 

[Rukia]

Well if you like reliving trauma here's their US Nats RD

Jk twizzles aside, I thought they did really well! Such improved speed and flow from earlier in the season. That first part is just SO GOOD.

Anyway, they can't control what happens scorewise at this point, so let's just hope they go clean and have a great free dance!

 

[litenkyckling]

So gutted for them - they’ve been looking so confident in the twizzles all season! Still less than a point in it though so hopefully they can enjoy the FD. This off season will be so important for Anthony so hope to see stronger twizzles next season!

 

[sap5]

They’ve got work to do, but the important thing for me is that they look miles better than they did last year. It will take time to get them where they need to be, but it’s already evident that they are using their time wisely.

 

[angi]

Twizzles error aside I feel like they were underscored by 1-2 points while many other teams were overscored by 3-4 points at least. Their partial steps sequence, their lift, and their character rhythm steps all deserved higher GOE. I've been a fan of Kolesnik for years, but his partnership while very promising still has a way to go to be at the quality level CPom presented, and the overscoring for them and for M/S, P/B, and B/S was excessive.
Overall CPom's improvement is very noticeable, to me it looked like nerves just made them (especially Anthony) tighter and more prone to mistakes, and I hope they will continue addressing it in practice.

 

[yurokis40]

Overrated boring team, Lala will own them the next few years.

 

[Taso]

Overrated boring team, Lala will own them the next few years.

is this really all you want to be doing with your life?

 

[CassAgain]

Nonense.

Cheer thread, my guy. Says it right in the title.

 

[Rukia]

Overrated boring team, Lala will own them the next few years.

I hope you have a lovely day thanks for all the cheer

 

[sap5]

Overrated boring team, Lala will own them the next few years.

Seeing as the opposite of everything you say usually comes true, thanks for this!!!

 

[litenkyckling]

I've finally rewatched and you know what... it wasn't that bad? The twizzle was bad, yes but the midline stesps were so confident and had the twizzles gone to plan I think we'd have seen them either a hair above or below Gr/P. They looked like a top team in a lot of ways.

I agree with people who have said they are too close to other teams too if I'm honest. Fair enough, Z/K had a good showing (we all know Igor gets the steps trained well) but I wouldn't have M/C and the rest so close. I did watch it sleep deprived so maybe I'm just in a bad mood but thats just how I feel

 

[sap5]

I've finally rewatched and you know what... it wasn't that bad? The twizzle was bad, yes but the midline stesps were so confident and had the twizzles gone to plan I think we'd have seen them either a hair above or below Gr/P. They looked like a top team in a lot of ways.

I agree with people who have said they are too close to other teams too if I'm honest. Fair enough, Z/K had a good showing (we all know Igor gets the steps trained well) but I wouldn't have M/C and the rest so close. I did watch it sleep deprived so maybe I'm just in a bad mood but thats just how I feel

Z/K scored above them is ??????

 

[litenkyckling]

Z/K scored above them is ??????

Yeah so I’ve just rewatched that one and er huh? They were strong no doubt but their twizzles also weren’t the very best (also slow) and overall it was so very Igor (not good imo)