FiveRinger
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What a clusterfu*k. I wondered how much time it would take before allegations would point towards USFSA. How sad.
I first heard rumors about Callaghan way back in 1993 circa the old Prodigy skating board. None of it was new then. It was just new to me because I'd never been on the Internet before then. But as soon as I signed up, there it was.
You're missing the point - it's all about consent. Giving gifts is fine. Giving gifts as a method of grooming (as Nassar did) or when the gifts are unwarranted or unwelcome is not fine. Talking about sexual issues is fine if the skater broaches the topic, but the coach should never be the one to start that conversation. Some older coaches use pinching in coaching in a non-sexual way - but you should never pinch a butt. Sexual or play (ie. racing around the rink), a coach shouldn't be horsing around, as it could injure their skater. All of this sounds like common sense.Thank you, very interesting pages (10 to 11). Some of it is over-reach... pinching, tagging, horsing around, giving gifts, talking about personal issues related to sexual issues... that's one gray area. I am waiting for "all this" to reach the "sexist" issues.. for example if a female trainer helps her female skater with a bra, fixes her hair, gives her a massage, do we need to check if what the trainer's sexual preferences are?
The rumors regarding Callaghan and Todd's involvement beyond coach/student were floated here and on other skating boards years ago.
It depends on where you live. There are states where the difference in age and/or the relationship (coach-to-student) combined with the age would make it criminal.He then said he had what sounded like a consensual affair when he reached 18. That is a serious breach of ethics for someone currently coaching the individual, which should be dealt with, swiftly and immediately, but is not criminal.
Before or after they amended their by-laws.It seems USFSA had no problem banning other coaches for sexual misconduct, so I have no idea why this was overlooked.
I don't think they've been buried very deep. As soon as Callaghan's name comes to the surface so does Todd's.And we have you to thank for rustling it back up, don't we
Developing a story based on fact is one thing. Based on conjecture or claims with no evidence is another.Is it a matter of time before the media try to get to Todd (and who would be surprised if someone doesn't already have a story in development waiting for confirmation)?
The rumors regarding Callaghan and Todd's involvement beyond coach/student were floated here and on other skating boards years ago.
I was pretty incensed at the time with the decision and USFS got a lot of flack for it. But I can see where they decided they would get sued and lose if they went against their by-laws. Because let's be honest, if they went against their bylaws and Callaghan sued them, they would lose.
I am familiar with most of those cases and they either came after the rules were changed or the offences in quesiton were on-going so the 60 day limit was not an issue.I don't know when the policy has changed, but many have been banned. Gordon Mckellen in 2001, Mark Mandina in 2011, David Lowery in 2003, David Loncar in 2010, Joseph Maro in 2005 (?), etc. etc.
They were protecting the money. Which is used to promote skating. So it benefits them but it benefits their members, too.I guess it was and is too much to hope that US Figure skating would put the safety and integrity of their athletes first(a large portion of which are underage children and teens), vs. protecting their own ass.
There's a lot of drama in skating clubs and rinks that can result in grievances but not for sexualized behavior. If for example a USFS judge was bad-mouthing a coach, that coach could file a grievance with USFS for "aggrieved and harmful" behavior.@newbatgirl Thanks for posting this - it's very useful.
I am somewhat confused, though, by the last part (Section 4). As I read this, it seems that complaints by "aggrieved or harmed" members are dealt with under the grievance procedures, and complaints involving "sexualized behaviour" are dealt with according to SafeSport policies. But I wonder why USFS hasn't rewritten its policies to reflect what SafeSport requires.
At the very least this is confusing to USFS members who might want to file a complaint. "Sexualized behaviour" is often hard to distinguish from "aggrieved and harmful" behaviour, so how is a member to know which policy applies?
So, the US federations under investigation right now are USA Gymnastics, USA Swimming and USA Taekwondo. (Did I miss any?)
From the comments above, I guess most people here think that USFS is trying to air their transgressions before Congress comes for them? You're likely right but I personally think that this makes them look worse because it shows they knew that they mishandled it in the first place.
At this point, I think the entire USOC structure needs blowing up.
They were protecting the money. Which is used to promote skating. So it benefits them but it benefits their members, too.
In a sport where someone like Morozov is celebrated as a "character" and his obvious predator behaviour is overlooked because he's a "great Olympic coach", this is hardly surprising.
Eldredge and his wife coach in Dallas, Texas (Frisco and McKinney)--eta: according to what I found online. Callaghan originally was involved in the "Champions of America" skating school in Texas but returned to Florida a while ago, IIRC.I was curious what Eldredge is doing now so I googled him and see that he has his own skating school in Florida
The suspensions by the two organizations are based on decades-old allegations that were brought to SafeSport’s attention Feb. 6 by Callaghan’s alleged victim, Craig Maurizi.
“I did it because it seemed like I had an opportunity to right a wrong,” Maurizi said in a Friday evening phone conversation. “Richard Callaghan should not have been coaching for many, many years and this was a chance to end his access to young skaters. The climate now is much different than it was 20 or so years ago and I felt there would be people who would listen to my story and focus on the facts rather than the political repercussions.”
I absolutely accept "consent" as a condition for such rules. I don't get the impression that "consent" is enough. There are several clauses stating "influence of a mentor", which leaves an impression that for example a coach 35 years old is frowned upon if he dates his student who is 18 or 19.... because of age difference, and an assumption that student is too young to think for him/her-self, and too much influenced by coach's "authority status/role". If "consent" is the ONLY condition for legal-age parties then it is not an issue. But "moralizing" about the rest is wrong and no-one's business.You're missing the point - it's all about consent.
That's also common sense, and is banned in many work settings: don't date or get romantically involved with or do anything romantic with someone lower/higher than you on the totem pole. Again, it's not that hard.I absolutely accept "consent" as a condition for such rules. I don't get the impression that "consent" is enough. There are several clauses stating "influence of a mentor", which leaves an impression that for example a coach 35 years old is frowned upon if he dates his student who is 18 or 19.... because of age difference, and an assumption that student is too young to think for him/her-self, and too much influenced by coach's "authority status/role". If "consent" is the ONLY condition for legal-age parties then it is not an issue. But "moralizing" about the rest is wrong and no-one's business.
I actually think they have pretty much the same culture. I also think gymnastics has more situations where adults are alone with children and that's not good. In skating, most of the training happens at the rink where there are other adults around, not just other kids.Figure skating may not have a
'Nassar' type figure (please God), but the culture within the sport is potentially more damaging than gymnastics and more likely to facilitate abuse.