Air Quality Warning

I do hope you read beyond the headlines and the supporting data/footnotes journal articles/research. I promise to read them.
 
Private Citizen said:
Most of the dire predictions we hear are based on spurious, politically motivated models that use wild assumptions. Changing one input by a small amount can result in a completely different output - like we have centuries or even millennia v. decades to deal with the impact.
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Private Citizen said:
I will read and examine multi-disciplinary perspectives; look at the evidence including the raw data and models
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What's your background in the earth sciences? Where did you study meteorology and climatology?

With all due respect, unless you are studied in earth sciences, saying things like "looking at raw data and models" is code for "I'm talking out of my ass".
 
I never realized that Private Citizen was a medical specialist (long Covid) or educated at all in climate change. Such a shock ?. I wonder why he’s on this board actually.
 
He's one of those pseudo-intellectual conservatives who's always "just asking questions" while really parroting right wing talking points.
 
Judy said:
I never realized that Private Citizen was a medical specialist (long Covid) or educated at all in climate change. Such a shock ?. I wonder why he’s on this board actually.
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He has much right to post here as you and I do (and I wouldn't be surprised at all if there aren't those who wonder it about me as little as I post, or care, about the actual "sport" of skating these days).
 
VALuvsMKwan said:
He has much right to post here as you and I do (and I wouldn't be surprised at all if there aren't those who wonder it about me as little as I post, or care, about the actual "sport" of skating these days).
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I'm in a kumbya moment here...as much as Private Citizen and I clash, he does have the right to post his opinions as I do to post mine.
 
VALuvsMKwan said:
He has much right to post here as you and I do (and I wouldn't be surprised at all if there aren't those who wonder it about me as little as I post, or care, about the actual "sport" of skating these days).
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once_upon said:
I'm in a kumbya moment here...as much as Private Citizen and I clash, he does have the right to post his opinions as I do to post mine.
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My comment wasn’t saying he should be kicked off.
 
Private Citizen said:
As with covid, I will read and examine multi-disciplinary perspectives; look at the evidence including the raw data and models, getting as close to the source as I can; consider the biases including political affiliation and motive for profit of each source; and ultimately form my own opinion.
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I know you think this is very reasonable but the reality is, the climate change models are very complex so having the proper training to understand them is very important.

Private Citizen said:
Covid is an excellent example, however, of how ridiculous models, untested and unproven scientific groupthink, and an unquestioning population can lead to disastrous results. Climate change is very much the same.
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Covid is an excellent example of how intelligent people not trained in the applicable sciences jumped into the fray and sowed confusion in the early days.

For example, a bunch of fluid engineers decided to stick a guy on a bike trainer, train a garden hose on him, and use the resulting data to "model" how Covid would travel if a cyclist sneezed while riding. Except water droplets aren't a virus and them spraying from a hose isn't how sneezes work and while I'm sure they did things in their model to account for this, their results were just ridiculous (according to actual virologists). But I know cyclists today who won't bike without a mask and try to keep 30 ft from the cyclist in front of them based on this completely unsound "study."

It's not enough to know how to do research. Or even to be a scientist in a different field. A fluid scientist is not a virologist -- as in this example -- and while climate science is a multidiscipline field, not every type of scientist has the necessary expertise to evaluate their data, models, and conclusions. Of course, this doesn't stop them, which is why "only" 80% of scientists agree that climate change is largely man-made and we're in deep doo-doo.
 
Weather Canada is giving 5 day AQI... Canadian Weather on tv, radio and online MUST do the same and provide information on smog alerts... it should be provided in the weather report and maybe 5 day report...

If NOT ... just contact the main office telephone number aka main secretary and speak to them ... Be polite and soft spoken and tell them you are long time viewer and want smog alerts with the weather on tv , radio and online and 5 day report.. And then say "Thank you"

Vick

Montréal, Quebec - Air Quality Health Index (AQHI) - Environment Canada

Current values and forecast maximums
weather.gc.ca weather.gc.ca
 
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VICK B. said:
Weather Canada is giving 5 day AQI... Canadian Weather on tv, radio and online MUST do the same and provide information on smog alerts... it should be provided in the weather report and maybe 5 day report...

If NOT ... just contact the main office telephone number aka main secretary and speak to them ... Be polite and soft spoken and tell them you are long time viewer and want smog alerts with the weather on tv , radio and online and 5 day report.. And then say "Thank you"

Vick

Montréal, Quebec - Air Quality Health Index (AQHI) - Environment Canada

Current values and forecast maximums
weather.gc.ca weather.gc.ca
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Until reading your words smog alerts, it's forgotten about the frequent smog alerts for LA and NYC before car emissions restrictions and other factory emissions went into place.

I hope the climate deniers don't push us back to that time. Some of the under 45 posters don't realize how bad it was.
 
So it's now been 2 hours 20 minutes since my previous post, and in that time I actually went outside when I left the office to drive home from downtown Chicago. It's not just a haze, this is smoke. As soon as I went to the parking garage of my office building, I could smell the acrid smoke outside.

And guess whose bedroom windows were wide open all day today? There is now a bit of haze and the smell of smoke in my bedroom.

So crazy...
 
Getting another air quality warning in the D.C. area now. At least it's Code Orange, not Code Maroon this time.
 
I thought it was only going to be orange in DC this time, but I went out just now to walk the dog and haze was visible at ground level. We're into Code Red according to AirNow.gov :(
 
BlueRidge said:
I thought it was only going to be orange in DC this time, but I went out just now to walk the dog and haze was visible at ground level. We're into Code Red according to AirNow.gov :(
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Yes, Code Red tomorrow for DC and Baltimore. Probably Philly too.
 
We (London ON area) had bad smokey, gross, air yesterday and this morning, and it was a bit worse when we went Burlington (approx half an hour SW from Toronto) today. But by the time we got back home again later this afternoon, it was sunshine and blue skies. We opened all our windows and let the fresh(er) air in. Supposed to be going down to 9C tonight which will be lovely for sleeping.
 
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