Air Quality Warning

[once_upon]

I do hope you read beyond the headlines and the supporting data/footnotes journal articles/research. I promise to read them.

 

[annie720]

AQI here is currently 70! So much better than yesterday. And very important to much of my family, the Shania Twain concert in Camden did not get canceled!

 

[Judy]

Hopefully some good news. We really, really need rain though.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/forest-fires-sopfeu-weekend-1.6872415

 

[tennellicious]

Most of the dire predictions we hear are based on spurious, politically motivated models that use wild assumptions. Changing one input by a small amount can result in a completely different output - like we have centuries or even millennia v. decades to deal with the impact.

I will read and examine multi-disciplinary perspectives; look at the evidence including the raw data and models

What's your background in the earth sciences? Where did you study meteorology and climatology?

With all due respect, unless you are studied in earth sciences, saying things like "looking at raw data and models" is code for "I'm talking out of my ass".

 

[Judy]

I never realized that Private Citizen was a medical specialist (long Covid) or educated at all in climate change. Such a shock . I wonder why he’s on this board actually.

 

[canbelto]

He's one of those pseudo-intellectual conservatives who's always "just asking questions" while really parroting right wing talking points.

 

[VALuvsMKwan]

I never realized that Private Citizen was a medical specialist (long Covid) or educated at all in climate change. Such a shock . I wonder why he’s on this board actually.

He has much right to post here as you and I do (and I wouldn't be surprised at all if there aren't those who wonder it about me as little as I post, or care, about the actual "sport" of skating these days).

 

[once_upon]

He has much right to post here as you and I do (and I wouldn't be surprised at all if there aren't those who wonder it about me as little as I post, or care, about the actual "sport" of skating these days).

I'm in a kumbya moment here...as much as Private Citizen and I clash, he does have the right to post his opinions as I do to post mine.

 

[Judy]

He has much right to post here as you and I do (and I wouldn't be surprised at all if there aren't those who wonder it about me as little as I post, or care, about the actual "sport" of skating these days).

I'm in a kumbya moment here...as much as Private Citizen and I clash, he does have the right to post his opinions as I do to post mine.

My comment wasn’t saying he should be kicked off.

 

[Judy]

Alberta still really bad.

 

[MacMadame]

As with covid, I will read and examine multi-disciplinary perspectives; look at the evidence including the raw data and models, getting as close to the source as I can; consider the biases including political affiliation and motive for profit of each source; and ultimately form my own opinion.

I know you think this is very reasonable but the reality is, the climate change models are very complex so having the proper training to understand them is very important.

Covid is an excellent example, however, of how ridiculous models, untested and unproven scientific groupthink, and an unquestioning population can lead to disastrous results. Climate change is very much the same.

Covid is an excellent example of how intelligent people not trained in the applicable sciences jumped into the fray and sowed confusion in the early days.

For example, a bunch of fluid engineers decided to stick a guy on a bike trainer, train a garden hose on him, and use the resulting data to "model" how Covid would travel if a cyclist sneezed while riding. Except water droplets aren't a virus and them spraying from a hose isn't how sneezes work and while I'm sure they did things in their model to account for this, their results were just ridiculous (according to actual virologists). But I know cyclists today who won't bike without a mask and try to keep 30 ft from the cyclist in front of them based on this completely unsound "study."

It's not enough to know how to do research. Or even to be a scientist in a different field. A fluid scientist is not a virologist -- as in this example -- and while climate science is a multidiscipline field, not every type of scientist has the necessary expertise to evaluate their data, models, and conclusions. Of course, this doesn't stop them, which is why "only" 80% of scientists agree that climate change is largely man-made and we're in deep doo-doo.

 

[VICK B.]

Weather Canada is giving 5 day AQI... Canadian Weather on tv, radio and online MUST do the same and provide information on smog alerts... it should be provided in the weather report and maybe 5 day report...

If NOT ... just contact the main office telephone number aka main secretary and speak to them ... Be polite and soft spoken and tell them you are long time viewer and want smog alerts with the weather on tv , radio and online and 5 day report.. And then say "Thank you"

Vick

Montréal, Quebec - Air Quality Health Index (AQHI) - Environment Canada

Current values and forecast maximums

weather.gc.ca

 

[once_upon]

Weather Canada is giving 5 day AQI... Canadian Weather on tv, radio and online MUST do the same and provide information on smog alerts... it should be provided in the weather report and maybe 5 day report...

If NOT ... just contact the main office telephone number aka main secretary and speak to them ... Be polite and soft spoken and tell them you are long time viewer and want smog alerts with the weather on tv , radio and online and 5 day report.. And then say "Thank you"

Vick

Montréal, Quebec - Air Quality Health Index (AQHI) - Environment Canada

Current values and forecast maximums

weather.gc.ca

Until reading your words smog alerts, it's forgotten about the frequent smog alerts for LA and NYC before car emissions restrictions and other factory emissions went into place.

I hope the climate deniers don't push us back to that time. Some of the under 45 posters don't realize how bad it was.

 

[VICK B.]

Montreal Air Pollution: Real-time Air Quality Index

How polluted is the air today? Check out the real-time air pollution map, for more than 100 countries.

aqicn.org

 

[Judy]

We’re really bad again in Ottawa today. I’m sure there are other areas.

 

[VICK B.]

World Air Quality Index (AQI) Ranking | IQAir

Keep track of the most polluted cities in the world with our air quality index (AQI) ranking.

www.iqair.com

 

[VICK B.]

Triathlons in Montreal, Mont-Tremblant cancelled due to poor air quality

The Ironman 70.3 race in Mont-Tremblant and the Groupe Copley World Triathlon in Montreal were cancelled Sunday due to poor air quality caused by wildfires in northern Quebec.

montreal.ctvnews.ca

 

[VICK B.]

"Montreal is currently 32.3 times the WHO annual air quality guideline value"

Montreal Air Quality Index (AQI) and Canada Air Pollution | IQAir

Montreal Air Quality Index (AQI) is now Good. Get real-time, historical and forecast PM2.5 and weather data. Read the air pollution in Montreal, Canada with AirVisual.

www.iqair.com

 

[skatingguy]

We were good until this afternoon. Now we socked in with smoke, and the edge of a storm front.

 

[VICK B.]

Monday was should to clear up... NOT...NOT

Montréal, Quebec - Air Quality Health Index (AQHI) - Environment Canada

Current values and forecast maximums

weather.gc.ca

 

[Kruss]

Chicago is in the major haze again. Worst in the world, apparently according to this article. I'm downtown and it's definitely hazy down here. I could barely see the buildings' outlines as I drove into the Loop this morning.

 

[Kruss]

So it's now been 2 hours 20 minutes since my previous post, and in that time I actually went outside when I left the office to drive home from downtown Chicago. It's not just a haze, this is smoke. As soon as I went to the parking garage of my office building, I could smell the acrid smoke outside.

And guess whose bedroom windows were wide open all day today? There is now a bit of haze and the smell of smoke in my bedroom.

So crazy...

 

[Wyliefan]

Getting another air quality warning in the D.C. area now. At least it's Code Orange, not Code Maroon this time.

 

[ballettmaus]

Getting another air quality warning in the D.C. area now. At least it's Code Orange, not Code Maroon this time.

WTOP says it's 20,000 to 25,000 ft up in the air, at least.

 

[VICK B.]

4 of 5 worst is in North East ..

World Air Quality Index (AQI) Ranking | IQAir

Keep track of the most polluted cities in the world with our air quality index (AQI) ranking.

www.iqair.com

 

[BlueRidge]

I thought it was only going to be orange in DC this time, but I went out just now to walk the dog and haze was visible at ground level. We're into Code Red according to AirNow.gov

 

[Debbie S]

I thought it was only going to be orange in DC this time, but I went out just now to walk the dog and haze was visible at ground level. We're into Code Red according to AirNow.gov

Yes, Code Red tomorrow for DC and Baltimore. Probably Philly too.

 

[Buzz]

They said air quality here in Toronto at one point today was the worst in the world.

Toronto air quality currently among the worst in the world

Toronto’s air quality was the worst in the world due to the wildfire smoke earlier on Wednesday, according to data from Swiss air quality tracker IQAir. While no longer the worst, it is still ranked among the top 10.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

 

[quartz]

We (London ON area) had bad smokey, gross, air yesterday and this morning, and it was a bit worse when we went Burlington (approx half an hour SW from Toronto) today. But by the time we got back home again later this afternoon, it was sunshine and blue skies. We opened all our windows and let the fresh(er) air in. Supposed to be going down to 9C tonight which will be lovely for sleeping.

 

[Kruss]

Still here in Chicago today, but somewhat less than yesterday.