2022 Olympic FS Team Event delayed medal ceremony - updates

[TAHbKA]

Um Russia is barred because of the war, not the doping scandal. Russia will not be competing at this week's Olympics nor at the upcoming gp series.

Not what I asked. I asked about the Olympics medal ceremony. The one where Sinitsina/Katsalapov, Mishina/Gallyamov and Kondratyuk (allegedly clean athletes) may receive a bronze 2022 Olympic medal

 

[Karen-W]

Not what I asked. I asked about the Olympics medal ceremony. The one where Sinitsina/Katsalapov, Mishina/Gallyamov and Kondratyuk (allegedly clean athletes) may receive a bronze 2022 Olympic medal

I expect that they will not have a victory ceremony on the podium with Team USA and Team Japan if CAS rules in favor of the ISU for all of the appeals.

 

[Spiralgraph]

The age difference per se does not bother me, but their vibe is that of a coach skating with his student, and I find that I do not enjoy that.

Not what I asked. I asked about the Olympics medal ceremony. The one where Sinitsina/Katsalapov, Mishina/Gallyamov and Kondratyuk (allegedly clean athletes) may receive a bronze 2022 Olympic medal

Ahh okay. That is going to be a very unnatural ceremony whenever it occurs. (Not that they should get that bronze.)

 

[kates8]

Based on their appeals that they should keep first place, I doubt Russian would show up (or be allowed to show up) for a third place ceremony if that is what is decided.

 

[Winnipeg]

Every time I see this post, I want to bang my head against the wall (bot don't).

Why have rules at all if they can be so easily broken by one athlete at the detriment of so many other, clean athletes.

 

[TanithandBenFan]

August 7 might actually happen!! The Court of Arbitration for Sport dismissed the three Russian Kamila Valieva appeals.

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[Debbie S]

The only wrinkle is that the CAS panel hearing the Canadian appeal is still "deliberating." If the IOC insists it be resolved first, the ceremony might not happen.

 

[barbk]

The only wrinkle is that the CAS panel hearing the Canadian appeal is still "deliberating." If the IOC insists it be resolved first, the ceremony might not happen.

I don't understand why a separate panel is hearing the Canadian appeal. That seems very inefficient.

 

[Karen-W]

The only wrinkle is that the CAS panel hearing the Canadian appeal is still "deliberating." If the IOC insists it be resolved first, the ceremony might not happen.

I've been skeptical this would be fully resolved by Aug 7th once the Canadian hearing date was set for July 22nd. Usually CAS panels take 30+ days to deliberate and reach a decision.

 

[Firedancer]

Christine Brennan story:

CAS ruling on Kamila Valieva case means US skaters can finally get gold medals

U.S. figure skaters who have been waiting more than two years will finally receive their Olympic gold medals after latest Valieva decision.

www.usatoday.com

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ters-olympic-gold-medals-valieva/74540753007/
It sounds like they are working on confirming the US and Japan will get their medals 8/7.

About time!

 

[Rukia]

I'm glad that at least for teams USA and Japan this is settled and done.

I do think team Canada should get bronze because I think having a full non-doped team is more important than the skating ?‍

 

[Firedancer]

IOC statement:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1816483476167970942

Sounds like the medal ceremony will happen

 

[skatfan]

Thrilled that at least two teams get their medals in Paris!!

 

[Vagabond]

I don't understand why a separate panel is hearing the Canadian appeal. That seems very inefficient.

I am not familiar with the specific procedures involved, but the Canadians filed their appeal later than the Russians, not at the same time. There may be a procedure to consolidate appeals, but courts generally don't do so on their own. The Canadians were the only ones with any reason to ask for a consolidation, but they appear not to have done so, perhaps because they didn't want to slow the resolution of the Russian appeals.

 

[skategal]

Whoever it was that had the guts to not award the medals in Beijing is a frigging hero!

So happy to see this result.

 

[Frau Muller]

Thrilled that at least two teams get their medals in Paris!!

That’s great! I’m awaiting a bronze for Canada. Get Roman on a Lear Jet!

 

[Jammers]

Not what I asked. I asked about the Olympics medal ceremony. The one where Sinitsina/Katsalapov, Mishina/Gallyamov and Kondratyuk (allegedly clean athletes) may receive a bronze 2022 Olympic medal

No one wants to see any Russians anywhere near the Olympics to be honest with the war and the doping and just acting like spoiled brats.

 

[Winnipeg]

Skating awards at a summer Olympics. Better than nothing!

The medals should have been awarded at the time, with the Russian team automatically DQed due to the doping. Again, the whole event was spoiled for many innocent skaters all because of one doping skater.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Figure Skating started in the Summer Olympics (1908) and continued in 1920. The Winter Olympics didn't start until 1924, when Figure Skating moved over.

So this is retro.

 

[skateboy]

Figure Skating started in the Summer Olympics (1908) and continued in 1920. The Winter Olympics didn't start until 1924, when Figure Skating moved over.

So this is retro.

A centennial celebration!

 

[Debbie S]

Whoever it was that had the guts to not award the medals in Beijing is a frigging hero!

So happy to see this result.

I'm happy to see the result too but I don't think we should celebrate the not-awarding of medals in Beijing. The U.S. skaters have said that they would have preferred to receive the silver medals in Beijing and if there had to be a change later so be it, noting the value (both emotional and financial) of coming home from the Olys displaying their medal. They petitioned to have the medal ceremony held before leaving Beijing and were denied.

We've already discussed the testing timeline and other rules and various failures, no need to rehash, but I think we should hope that the IOC and ISU have learned from this and that the delay in medals should not set a precedent. The U.S. skaters have been clear that they hope this will never happen to any other innocent athletes.

 

[overedge]

I don't understand why a separate panel is hearing the Canadian appeal. That seems very inefficient.

I'm guessing to avoid potential claims that a single panel might be biased or prejudiced by hearing both cases, as in, their decision in one case might be influenced by the facts or the outcome of the other case.

It's inefficient, yes, but it also reduces the potential for procedural appeals afterwards.

 

[barbk]

I'm guessing to avoid potential claims that a single panel might be biased or prejudiced by hearing both cases, as in, their decision in one case might be influenced by the facts or the outcome of the other case.

It's inefficient, yes, but it also reduces the potential for procedural appeals afterwards.

I did not think there was any appeal from CAS.

The facts from the other case are certainly relevant. Since it is all one tangled case, it seems like it would have been more efficient. OTOH, the CAS seems anything but efficient.

 

[caseyedwards]

No one wants to see any Russians anywhere near the Olympics to be honest with the war and the doping and just acting like spoiled brats.

False. Russians are not Putin and are not the war! They should be invited and welcomed like warmonger Americans and British

 

[Finnice]

Skating awards at a summer Olympics. Better than nothing!

Finnish Javelin thrower Antti Ruuskanen was originally the bronze medalist in London olys 2012, but the silver medalist was caught for using doping. Antti finally got the silver in february 2017, at the Nordic skiing WC in Lahti, where Tomas Bach was present.
He jokes to be the only medalist at the summer Olys, who got his medal in the winter sport WC.

So I hope USA, Japan and Canada will get their medal in Paris.

 

[overedge]

I did not think there was any appeal from CAS.

The facts from the other case are certainly relevant. Since it is all one tangled case, it seems like it would have been more efficient. OTOH, the CAS seems anything but efficient.

It's a very interconnected case, but it's two separate appeals. Having different panels for each appeal gives less opportunity for any of the parties to complain that a single panel was biased because it also heard the other case.

 

[Firedancer]

It’s official:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1816566306264485970

 

[SkateGuard]

It’s official:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1816566306264485970

Delighted to hear this long overdue news and crossing my fingers and toes that Team Canada gets to have the podium moment they very much earned too. ??

 

[skatfan]

It’s official:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1816566306264485970

So by my count, since Beijing:

7 have stopped competing in eligible competition
3 have gotten married
1 has had a baby
2 have graduated from university
2 have entered university
3 are now coaching (or is it four?)

 

[Karen-W]

So by my count, since Beijing:

7 have stopped competing in eligible competition
3 have gotten married
1 has had a baby
2 have graduated from university
2 have entered university
3 are now coaching (or is it four?)

I think the 2 you have as "entered university" should be classified as "returned to university" since they were at Cornell & Brown respectively pre-pandemic and, like Nathan, took a LOA to focus on training during the 2020-21 and 2021-22 academic years. The main difference between Karen & Vincent and Nathan is that he was a year ahead of them academically already. They both seem on track to graduate next year though.