2022 Grand Prix Assignments - when do they come out?

[allezfred]

Yes, waiting is indeed what you'll be doing if you expect it over the weekend.

Oh, I’m fine with waiting. Am not fine with calling people dealing with unprecedented situations lazy.

 

[On My Own]

Am not fine with calling people dealing with unprecedented situations lazy.

I hope you're also fine with "the part of the ISU that sits in the office during the weekdays deciding GP spots when the season hasn't even properly begun isn't the same part of the ISU that organizes competitions on the ground during weekends at the peak of the season".

If the ISU already has decided the station, then yes, it's being lazy in not announcing it and the assignments during the weekend. Rather bad faith interpretation on your part if you really believed I was saying it's probably being lazy instead of scrambling for a station if that hasn't even been decided yet. Could have just asked what I meant ?‍

 

[GoneWithTheWind]

Seeded Teams -
Chock/Bates - SkAm & GBR
Guignard/Fabbri - IdF & Finland
Gilles/Poirier - SCI & NHK
Fear/Gibson - SCI & GBR
Hawayek/Baker - IdF & NHK
Fournier Beaudry/Sorensen - SkAm & Finland

My predications were the same for the top 6 but for one swap: I had C/B for NHK and G/P with GBR, as I think the top skaters tend to love NHK for the crowds, and C/B have recently had very crowd-pleasing programs.

 

[Karen-W]

My predications were the same for the top 6 but for one swap: I had C/B for NHK and G/P with GBR, as I think the top skaters tend to love NHK for the crowds, and C/B have recently had very crowd-pleasing programs.

Yes, that was my initial thought as well, but with F/G being a lock for GBR, the options are limited of you don't necessarily want the teams in the top 6 facing each other twice AND both the USFS & Skate Canada prefer to keep their seeded teams from facing each other during the GP (not a given). The easiest solution was swapping C/B and G/P between GBR & NHK.

 

[SidelineSkater]

Yes, that was my initial thought as well, but with F/G being a lock for GBR, the options are limited of you don't necessarily want the teams in the top 6 facing each other twice AND both the USFS & Skate Canada prefer to keep their seeded teams from facing each other during the GP (not a given). The easiest solution was swapping C/B and G/P between GBR & NHK.

Do we know for sure G/P are competing this season? For some reason I thought they were taking the season off?

 

[leilaofpaper]

Do we know for sure G/P are competing this season? For some reason I thought they were taking the season off?

Piper recently confirmed they’re competing this season, they’re back with their coaches now.

 

[Evgeniafan]

Here are my Men's predictions:

1) I don't think Morisi will be competing this fall based on his IG - he's busy doing theatrical ice shows

Uno - NHK
Kagiyama - does JPN usually put their top 2 men against each other at NHK?
Pulkinen - SkAm & Finland (because, Finnish heritage!)
Tomono - wherever Uno & Kagiyama are not
Grassl - who knows?
Siao Him Fa - IdF
Malinin - SkAm
Rizzo - he & Grassl get what they get, I think
Aymoz - IdF
Sadovsky - SCI
Vasiljevs - Finland (Latvia's so close!)
Messing - SCI

I think all of the SB & WS Top 24 who are competing get two - but I also don't think there's anything compelling to indicate Brown, Hanyu or Jin will be on the GP this fall, and I expect that Levandi will go back to the JGP and kill it - that leaves Cha, Ma, Chiu, M. Selevko & Sato with assignments.

Jr Worlds Top 3 - like Levandi, I think Shaidorov & Tsuboi will be sent back to the JGP to clean up this fall (prize money and making the JGPF is a legitimate consideration).

SB Top 75 -
2 assignments on the initial go-round - Miura, Yamamoto, Litvintsev, Miyake, Frangipani, A. Selevko, Shimada, Gogolev, Orzel, Hiwatashi & Newberry. **Add Kerry to this list if he does continue one more season - folks in the Aussie news thread seem to think he won't now that there's no home 4CCs to cap his career.

Now, this is where things get interesting, depending on what the GP commission does with those Russians in the WS & SB Top 24 who are eligible for 1 assignment - if they don't give them any at all as some believe will be the case, then I would add S. Lee, Zandron, Egadze & Reshtenko to the list of skaters that receive 2 assignments initially, otherwise, they'll get 1 right away, in order to ensure that host fed skaters ranked further down in SB Top 75 get 2 (Newberry) or 1 (Circelli, Sjoberg & Kapeikis).

Honda is he continuing? I haven't seen anything about him in the Japanese news or music/program announcements threads.

1 assignment initially - S. Lee, Zandron, Egadze, Reshtenko, Circelli, Sjoberg & Kapeikis

Skaters who I think will eventually receive 1 assignment - replacing the Russians who can't compete if they're given initial assignments, or to fill unused host spots (1 each for GBR & FIN) - Majorov, Britschgi, Carrillo, Shmuratko.

Skaters on the Alternates List for assignments as they open up (10) - Majorov, Britschgi, Carrillo, Shmuratko, Starostin, Circelli, Memola, Sjoberg, Kapeikis, Guarino Sabate

ETA - host assignments not eligible for a 2nd - Appleby, Virtanen, Suntsev, & 1 TBD for all 6 events

I hope that France does not put Aymoz and Dial Him Fa, at the same events. I hope Aymoz gets Skate America and GB, and Adam gets IDF and Finland.
And Vasiljevs trains in Switzerland so any European assignment is good, but I hope he gets Skate America.

 

[Karen-W]

I hope that France does not put Aymoz and Dial Him Fa, at the same events. I hope Aymoz gets Skate America and GB, and Adam gets IDF and Finland.
And Vasiljevs trains in Switzerland so any European assignment is good, but I hope he gets Skate America.

Based on last season where they had both Kevin & Adam at IdF, I sort of expect the same again this season.

 

[Evgeniafan]

Based on last season where they had both Kevin & Adam at IdF, I sort of expect the same again this season.

I know, but I think its better if two leading men aren't at the same competitions.
Examples: Evgenia and Alina never met at Grand Prix, or Sasha and Anna.

I don't think Daniel and Matteo should either. And Yuma and Shoma can't.

 

[Karen-W]

I know, but I think its better if two leading men aren't at the same competitions.
Examples: Evgenia and Alina never met at Grand Prix, or Sasha and Anna.

I don't think Daniel and Matteo should either. And Yuma and Shoma can't.

Those are federation choices, just like Hubbell/Donohue and Chock/Bates competing at SkAm last season was a choice, same with Nathan & Vincent.

It isn't too say "they can't", just that some feds choose not to. I don't think the FFSG cares so much about their top skaters facing off at IdF ss much as they care about fans showing up and paying for tickets - if having Adam & Kevin there is the way to do it, especially with PapCiz off for now, then that's the choice the FFSG will make.

 

[Evgeniafan]

Those are federation choices, just like Hubbell/Donohue and Chock/Bates competing at SkAm last season was a choice, same with Nathan & Vincent.

It isn't too say "they can't", just that some feds choose not to. I don't think the FFSG cares so much about their top skaters facing off at IdF ss much as they care about fans showing up and paying for tickets - if having Adam & Kevin there is the way to do it, especially with PapCiz off for now, then that's the choice the FFSG will make.

I think you are right. Hope dies last.

 

[Dobre]

Typically #1 seeded dance teams choose NHK.

I think because it's a good place to connect with the more lucrative skating audience & $ that come from being invited to Japanese shows & tours.

 

[ostile17]

So do you think we will get the announcement of the 6th host and the assignments at the same time?

 

[airgelaal]

I know, but I think its better if two leading men aren't at the same competitions.
Examples: Evgenia and Alina never met at Grand Prix, or Sasha and Anna.

I don't think Daniel and Matteo should either. And Yuma and Shoma can't.

They can

2012 World Figure Skating Championships:
Daisuke Takahashi - silver
Yuzuru Hanyu - bronze

And the next season NHK Trophy:
Yuzuru Hanyu - gold
Daisuke Takahashi - silver

 

[ostile17]

They can

2012 World Figure Skating Championships:
Daisuke Takahashi - silver
Yuzuru Hanyu - bronze

And the next season NHK Trophy:
Yuzuru Hanyu - gold
Daisuke Takahashi - silver

But only because that NHK Trophy was taking place in Hanyu's hometown

 

[Dobre]

Dance predictions:

Skate America-Chock & Bates, Fournier-Beaudry & Sorensen
SC-Gilles & Poirier, Fear & Gibson
IDF-Guignard & Fabbri, Hawayek & Baker
TBC-Gilles & Poirier, Fear & Gibson
NHK-Chock & Bates, Hawayek & Baker
FIN-Guignard & Fabbri, Fournier-Beaudry & Sorensen

 

[litenkyckling]

Skate America-Chock & Bates, Fournier-Beaudry & Sorensen
SC-Gilles & Poirier, Fear & Gibson
IDF-Guignard & Fabbri, Hawayek & Baker
TBC-Gilles & Poirier, Fear & Gibson
NHK-Chock & Bates, Hawayek & Baker
FIN-Guignard & Fabbri, Fournier-Beaudry & Sorensen

I agree - if TBC is Sheffield I can see Carol wanting her team there

 

[Colonel Green]

I agree - if TBC is Sheffield I can see Carol wanting her team there

Since they pick third, Piper & Paul don't get to choose their second event, it depends on what Charlene & Marco choose. Since I think everyone figures they'll do France, they can either do a back-to-back in the middle of the season (the UK) or do Finland and compete right before the Final. I guessed that they would prefer more rest before the Final, but you could make an argument for either.

 

[Debbie S]

I agree - if TBC is Sheffield I can see Carol wanting her team there

Well, G/P are seeded 3rd so it won't matter what Carol wants. Their assignments depend on what the top 2 teams decide.

The only instance where skaters from the same seeding group can be at the same GP is their home country event, if applicable. So Yuma and Shoma could both be at NHK but not at any other GPs together.

 

[Dobre]

I agree - if TBC is Sheffield I can see Carol wanting her team there

Doesn't matter what Carol wants. Gilles & Poirier are the third seed.

My thinking is that Guignard & Fabbri have been to France three times. They'll probably be happy to choose it again. They went to Finland last time it hosted (& had a great competition there). There are still two weeks before the Final, and G&F won't have to travel for the Final as it's in Italy. Guignard & Fabbri usually cram in a Challenger event in the middle of the GP anyway so they aren't a team that prioritizes a lot of time between events. Finally, there's no reason for them to choose TBC and potentially meet Fear & Gibson in F&G's backyard. No need to do that.

 

[litenkyckling]

Doesn't matter what Carol wants. Gilles & Poirier are the third seed.

My thinking is that Guignard & Fabbri have been to France three times. They'll probably be happy to choose it again. They went to Finland last time it hosted (& had a great competition there). There are still two weeks before the Final, and G&F won't have to travel for it at all as it's in Italy. Guignard & Fabbri usually cram in a Challenger event in the middle of the GP anyway so they aren't a team that prioritizes a lot time between events. Finally, there's no reason for them to choose TBC and potentially meet Fear & Gibson in F&G's backyard. No need to do that.

I wasn’t implying that she gets a say, it was just a casual observation that she’d probably like for that to happen.

 

[zebobes]

They can

2012 World Figure Skating Championships:
Daisuke Takahashi - silver
Yuzuru Hanyu - bronze

And the next season NHK Trophy:
Yuzuru Hanyu - gold
Daisuke Takahashi - silver

If I remember correctly, it was the French federation doing a trade so that Brian Joubert and Florent Amodio, who were both in the 4-6 category, could appear at the same Grand Prix in France.

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think Jeremy Abbot barely made the GPF that season thanks to the TEB trophy having a weaker field.

Edit: Turns out he barely missed out on the GPF... He could have made it if he got first, but he got second at a very poorly skated TEB...

 

[Karen-W]

It was just reported that Yuzuru will hold a press conference at 5PM (local time) on 19th to announce his decision. We don't know what it's about yet.

https://twitter.com/sn_figure/status/1548912010947366912

Betting that we don't get the GP announcement until after tomorrow's press conference with Hanyu...

 

[antmanb]

If Sheffield does get the GP please please please don't let Hanyu get assigned it. I want to get tickets and not have to fight the Fanyus for tickets.

 

[Karen-W]

If Sheffield does get the GP please please please don't let Hanyu get assigned it. I want to get tickets and not have to fight the Fanyus for tickets.

I don't think he'll compete in anything this year except Worlds and WTT, but if he does the GP then I'd guess SCI and NHK.

 

[Debbie S]

Please don't let him be at 4CC. Echoing Antmanb.

 

[Karen-W]

Please don't let him be at 4CC. Echoing Antmanb.

LOLOL! As if he's going to travel to Colorado Springs to compete in that... I'm betting that he has three competitions on his calendar for this year - Japanese Nats, Worlds and WTT.

 

[allezfred]

Betting that we don't get the GP announcement until after tomorrow's press conference with Hanyu...

Well given that 5pm in Tokyo is 10am in Switzerland, I would say that is a fairly surefire bet.

 

[Karen-W]

Well given that 5pm in Tokyo is 10am in Switzerland, I would say that is a fairly surefire bet.

That and the fact that it was already past noon in Switzerland today, with no GP assignments yet, when Hanyu announced his press conference for tomorrow. It would be nice if the ISU could at least get Sheffield announced/confirmed today.

 

[Dobre]

Tick tock. It seems to me that if Hanyu wanted to beat the ISU GP announcement, he could have scheduled his press conference for any time in the past 4 1/2 months.

I want the GP announcements!