2022 Grand Prix Assignments - when do they come out?

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Match reported 14th which was why skating Twitter and Tumblr were in absolute meltdown mode yesterday, because they're idiots.
Ohhhhhhh that's why. I was SO confused, since I only cared about Hersh lol.

Frankly, I'm going a little conspiracy theory on this and think it doesn't take much analysis to come up with a reason why a Russian news source might be deliberately putting out incorrect information and stirring up the most reactionary parts of the fanbase with that incorrect info to make the ISU look bad...
I'll +1 you too!
 
anyone know what time the ISU normally does media releases? signed your local australian who’s wondering whether to go to sleep or wait up a little longer.
It seems really random, to me, and since it's not a normal workday, I'm not sure they're on any sort of business hours schedule.
 
What is the usual timing with this? Do feds/skaters get to know a bit ahead of the press release? Could they be learning today while we'll find out Monday when someone actually presses send on that at the ISU?

I've never really paid attention before hahaha.
 
I seem to remember the assignments were released on a Sunday one year - 2009-2010. I remember because it confirmed comebacks from Shen and Zhao and Sasha Cohen (it was the first time comeback skaters were given assignments). Does anyone else remember this?
 
While I tend to agree with @clairecloutier about timing, it isn't as though issuing a press release or updating a website needs to be done by someone IN Switzerland. Also, these items can be pre-scheduled, to release/update at a certain time. For all we know, someone could have done all the work yesterday once the committee met and we're just waiting on some pre-agreed upon publishing time.
 
What is the usual timing with this? Do feds/skaters get to know a bit ahead of the press release? Could they be learning today while we'll find out Monday when someone actually presses send on that at the ISU?

I've never really paid attention before hahaha.
Yes, skaters, coaches and feds do usually find out before the list is publicly shared. At least, that's how it has worked in the past.
 
So, while we're waiting anxiously for the assignments to finally come out, now that we're all but certain of the 6th GP location, anyone have any GP projections they want to share?
 
So, while we're waiting anxiously for the assignments to finally come out, now that we're all but certain of the 6th GP location, anyone have any GP projections they want to share?
I only have predictions for the top three women at this stage.

I predict Loena will get France and Finland.
Kaori - NHK is obvious and I would’ve said SkAm as well but she can’t be at the same event as Mariah can she? so potentially Skate Canada then.
Mariah - SkAm and Sheffield

Bonus: Donovan Carrillo will get invited to SkAm
 
OK, I'll play. :)

I'm assuming the top 3 dance seeds are Chock/Bates, Guignard/Fabbri, and Gilles/Poirier. C/B will obviously be at SA, my guess is IdF for their second event, since that would give them the most time to prepare for the GPF. For G/F, I would guess Sheffield and Finland. G/P will obviously be at SC and my guess is NHK will be their second.

For the rest of the dance field, my only other predictions are F/G will be in Sheffield and F-B/S probably at SA since they've done that event several times. I would guess H/B probably won't be at SA, maybe they will start at SC?

I assume Mariah, Ilia and K/F will be the other headliners at SA.

And on Monday, we'll see how wrong we were. :lol:
 
Here are my Men's predictions:

1) I don't think Morisi will be competing this fall based on his IG - he's busy doing theatrical ice shows

Uno - NHK
Kagiyama - does JPN usually put their top 2 men against each other at NHK?
Pulkinen - SkAm & Finland (because, Finnish heritage!)
Tomono - wherever Uno & Kagiyama are not
Grassl - who knows?
Siao Him Fa - IdF
Malinin - SkAm
Rizzo - he & Grassl get what they get, I think
Aymoz - IdF
Sadovsky - SCI
Vasiljevs - Finland (Latvia's so close!)
Messing - SCI

I think all of the SB & WS Top 24 who are competing get two - but I also don't think there's anything compelling to indicate Brown, Hanyu or Jin will be on the GP this fall, and I expect that Levandi will go back to the JGP and kill it - that leaves Cha, Ma, Chiu, M. Selevko & Sato with assignments.

Jr Worlds Top 3 - like Levandi, I think Shaidorov & Tsuboi will be sent back to the JGP to clean up this fall (prize money and making the JGPF is a legitimate consideration).

SB Top 75 -
2 assignments on the initial go-round - Miura, Yamamoto, Litvintsev, Miyake, Frangipani, A. Selevko, Shimada, Gogolev, Orzel, Hiwatashi & Newberry. **Add Kerry to this list if he does continue one more season - folks in the Aussie news thread seem to think he won't now that there's no home 4CCs to cap his career.

Now, this is where things get interesting, depending on what the GP commission does with those Russians in the WS & SB Top 24 who are eligible for 1 assignment - if they don't give them any at all as some believe will be the case, then I would add S. Lee, Zandron, Egadze & Reshtenko to the list of skaters that receive 2 assignments initially, otherwise, they'll get 1 right away, in order to ensure that host fed skaters ranked further down in SB Top 75 get 2 (Newberry) or 1 (Circelli, Sjoberg & Kapeikis).

Honda is he continuing? I haven't seen anything about him in the Japanese news or music/program announcements threads.

1 assignment initially - S. Lee, Zandron, Egadze, Reshtenko, Circelli, Sjoberg & Kapeikis

Skaters who I think will eventually receive 1 assignment - replacing the Russians who can't compete if they're given initial assignments, or to fill unused host spots (1 each for GBR & FIN) - Majorov, Britschgi, Carrillo, Shmuratko.

Skaters on the Alternates List for assignments as they open up (10) - Majorov, Britschgi, Carrillo, Shmuratko, Starostin, Circelli, Memola, Sjoberg, Kapeikis, Guarino Sabate

ETA - host assignments not eligible for a 2nd - Appleby, Virtanen, Suntsev, & 1 TBD for all 6 events
 
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Ice dance predictions:

Chock & Bates - SkAm, NHK (nobody passes on NHK)
Guignard & Fabbri - France, UK (choice between back-to-back Grand Prix and competing right before the Final, I assume they go with the former)
Gilles & Poirier - SCI, Finland (since the latter is the only one left)
 
Onto my Women's predictions!

100% agree with @leilaofpaper's Top 3 assignment predictions! As with the men, there's nothing that indicates to me that Karen Chen is going to compete on the GP this fall, so I think Mikutina moves up to seeded status.

Sakamoto - SCI & NHK
Hendrickx - IdF & Finland
Bell - SkAm & GBR
You, Gubanova & Lee - wherever the host feds want to put them
Ryabova - IdF
Higuchi - NHK
Schizas - SCI
Schott, Kurakova & Mikutina - wherever the host feds want to put them

WS & SB Top 24 - all of the non-Russian/Belarusian skaters who aren't already seeded will certainly get 2 assignments except Jia Shin who is too young - Mihara, Y. Kim, Thorngren, Petrokina, Matsuike, A. Shin & Levito

Returning skaters previously ranked - Kihira & Tennell (uncertain about her status, but I'll bet she is assigned initially) - these skaters are only eligible for a host spot and ONE assignment - so, Kihira at NHK & Tennell at SkAm & a 2nd assignment for each

SB Top 75 -
2 assignments initially - Kawabe, Kiibus, Glenn, Yun, Serna, Peltonen; ** skaters who wind up with 2 if the Russians/Belarusian aren't assigned initially - Wi, Yokoi, Izzo, Ruiter, Andrews, Daleman, Saarinen

1 assignment initially if no Russians/Belarusians assigned - E. Lim, Park, Schumacher - I think SCI holds a host spot open for another skater to earn it

Skaters staying on the JGP - M. Kim, C. Kim, Pinzarrone, Seo, Repond, Ziegler, Ji - they're not guaranteed an assignment and could use another season (or more) on the JGP

Alternates List - E. Lim, Park, Paganini, van Zundert, Brezinova, Sumiyoshi, Wang, Schumacher + the 3 below

Uncertain status - Kitromilis, Zhu, Sauter

Host initial assignments (not eligible for a 2nd) - Mazzara, Meite, McKay, Povey & 1 TBD @SCI, GBR & Finland
 
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I'm not clear if they promote people for the purposes of the second round of seeding, but if they do, there'll be some interesting choices depending on what the US and Canada decide to do with their host selections. The US chose to double up its seeded teams last year, so we could see Hawayek & Baker at SkAm too. Fournier Beaudry & Sorensen have, oddly enough, never competed at SCI while under the Canadian flag, but I could see the fed doing that now just to seal off competition.

If both of those things happen, then Fear & Gibson have their home Grand Prix and then have to choose whether to do a back-to-back with France (convenient for travel), a back-to-back with NHK (a preferred event for them, but also a ways to travel), or Finland (closest to the Final).
 
Four years ago, IIRC, they only moved up (after post-Oly retirements) skaters for the top 3 seeds, not 4-6.
 
A strict reading of the GP Selection document would indicate that they move up for all of the seeded spots, but I could be wrong based on what has happened in the past. I'm not sure, though, that this year is truly comparable to past post-Oly seasons because we're also dealing with no Russians/Belarusians.

For the men - this would impact Vasiljevs & Messing, both of whom are in the WS Top 24 and are going to get 2 assignments, regardless of whether they're seeded or not.

For the women - it would impact Kurakova & Mikutina. Kurakova is in the WS Top 24, so she'll get 2 regardless of whether she's seeded or not. Mikutina, OTOH, is down at 52 on the SB, so she could wind up with only 1 initially, and probably get Yokoi a 2nd spot initially instead if the Russian/Belarusian spots aren't available, or maybe they give Paganini (SB56) one right out of the gate and put both on the Alternates List should spots open up.

For dance - it would impact Lajoie/Lagha, Turkkila/Versluis & Taschlerova/Taschler. L/L and T/V are in the WS Top 24, so they'll get 2 regardless of seeding, and T/T are SB27 so they're all but assured two.

ETA - the other problem with NOT moving skaters up in Men, Women & Dance is the Pairs competition at Worlds and the resulting retirements/splits. All 6 of the teams reported to be continuing were in the Top 10, so they're all seeded no matter what, but only one team of the Top 3 is done, so do you only move one of those teams up to Top 6 for seeding purposes? Or do you move the 6th team up to that last spot? And how do you justify not moving skaters in other disciplines up to fill spots 4-12 in Men/Women and 4-10 in dance?
 
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Jr Worlds Top 3 - like Levandi, I think Shaidorov & Tsuboi will be sent back to the JGP to clean up this fall (prize money and making the JGPF is a legitimate consideration).

Honda is he continuing? I haven't seen anything about him in the Japanese news or music/program announcements threads.
Quoting myself here since @Sylvia noted in the Japanese news thread that Honda & Tsuboi are listed as Senior Men for the JSF. I didn't realize that they're both too old for the JGP. Having said that, Japan is likely to be maxed out with GP spots in the men - there are 8 men who are either seeded (3), WS Top 24 (1), SB Top 24 (1), or ranked higher on the SB Top 75 (3) - Shimada is between Tsuboi & Honda.

So, I'm going to amend my prediction and guess that Tsuboi gets 2 initially, Shimada gets 1 if the Russians aren't assigned, and Honda & Shimada are in the running for the NHK TBD host spot.
 
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Pairs predictions seem pretty straightforward - it's gift day on Oprah! You get a GP! You get a GP! You get two GPs! Oh, you might only be one of 2 or 3 alternates, so you'll eventually get a GP!

Of the seeded teams - 4 have obvious 1st choices and the rest it was sort of mix & match so no two seeded teams face each other twice.

Knierim/Frazier - SkAm & IdF
Miura/Kihara - SCI & NHK
Safina/Berulava - GBR & Finland
Walsh/Michaud - SCI & GBR
Kovalev/Kovalev - IdF & Finland
Danilova/Tsiba - SkAm & NHK

WS & SB Top 24 - I honestly don't know the status of the Chinese teams, but I think it's more likely we see Peng/Jin on the GP than Sui/Han this fall. Barquero/Zandron have her pending WADA violation - if it hasn't been resolved yet then, based on what happened to Calalang/Johnson last season, they aren't eligible for selection and they won't be on the Alternates list either :(.

2 assignments - Peng/Jin, Ghilardi/Ambrosini, Chan/Howe, Stellato-Dudek/Deschamps, Conti/Macii, Metelkina/Parkman.
Right there - that allots 24 of the 48 available spots. I firmly believe both the USFS, Skate Canada & the FFSG will use their 6 remaining host spots for teams that aren't in the SB Top 75 as all of their SB Top 75 teams should receive 2 assignments initially. 2 other host spots should be used by GBR for teams only qualified for a host spot - Smart/Mattick & Vaipan-Law/Digby (they're missing the minimum total score by about 2 points to be eligible for a 2nd spot)

SB Top 75 -

2 assignments - Matte/Ferland, McBeath/Bartholomay, Hocke/Kunkel, Zukova/Bidar, McIntosh/Mimar, Smirnova/Siianytsia, Roscher/Schuster - those last three should get 2 once the Russian teams are removed

1 assignment - Holichenko/Darenskiy & Chernyshova/Windsor

Alternates List - Holichenko/Darenskiy, Chernyshova/Windsor & Crafoord/Crafoord
 
I honestly don't know the status of the Chinese teams, but I think it's more likely we see Peng/Jin on the GP than Sui/Han this fall.
Sui/Han have said they are not doing this season or the next. Unless they're pressurized by their federation, I expect we won't be seeing them before 2024-25.
 
Sui/Han have said they are not doing this season or the next. Unless they're pressurized by their federation, I expect we won't be seeing them before 2024-25.
I figured they wouldn't be competing but hadn't seen any official comment. :) At this point, I'm not sure Peng/Jin are even training - they look to be busy traveling all over from their IG stories and posts.

It will be really interesting to see what happens if the alternates list is completely used and no new teams win an early Challenger.
 
Here are my Dance predictions...

Seeded Teams -
Chock/Bates - SkAm & GBR
Guignard/Fabbri - IdF & Finland
Gilles/Poirier - SCI & NHK
Fear/Gibson - SCI & GBR
Hawayek/Baker - IdF & NHK
Fournier Beaudry/Sorensen - SkAm & Finland
Reed/Ambrulevicius - SkAm & NHK
Lajoie/Lagha - IdF & NHK
Turkkila/Versluis - SkAm & Finland
Taschlerova/Taschler - SCI & GBR

WS & SB Top 24 -
2 assignments initially - Green/Parsons, Carreira/Ponomarenko, Lopareva/Brissaud, Muramoto/Takahashi, Soucisse/Firus, Nazarova/Nikitin, Brown/Brown, Wang/Liu, Wolfkostin/Chen

I'm not 100% that either Nazarova/Nikitin or Wang/Liu are continuing, but if they are, they'll get 2 assignments automatically.

Bashynska/Beaumont seem to be staying junior this season.

SB Top 75 -
2 assignments initially - Orihara/Pirinen, Kazakova/Reviya, Komatsubara/Koleto, Demougeot/Le Mercier, Lagouge/Caffa
2 assignments once the Russians are out - Bratti/Somerville, Fabbri/Ayer, Pate/Bye, Lanaghan/Razgulajevs

Dance is the one discipline where unless you are VERY high up on the SB list (Kazakova/Reviya are 31), unless you're from a host country, don't hold your breath for an assignment unless it's a host spot. Demougeot/Le Mercier & Lagouge/Caffa are 51 & 53 and the only exception, but I'm sure that the FFSG will gladly cut a deal, as will the rest of the host feds, to ensure that as many of their teams have two assignments as possible.

Host assignments - SkAm, SCI, & 2 at GBR; Finland & Japan will throw their 3rd host spot back in the pool automatically since neither has a 3rd senior dance team.

Alternates List - Holubtsova/Bielobrov, Janse van Rensburg/Steffan, Lauriault/Le Gac, Cesanek/Yehorov, Harris/Chan, Sales/Wamsteeker, Ling/Wein, Nosovitskaya/Nosovitskiy, McNamara/Spiridonov, Chen/Sun
 
At this point, I'm not sure Peng/Jin are even training - they look to be busy traveling all over from their IG stories and posts.
I think they just posted a douyin or kuaishou video (chinese version of tiktok and whatever kuaishou is supposed to be similar to) where the fans discovered they were in Beijing. Which either means nothing since Jin Boyang is currently in three cities all at once, or it means that P/J are in Beijing. ETA: Beijing being relevant since that's where the training camp is supposed to be, I think. And W/L too.
 
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