2021 US Nationals Mens FS: When you fall in a forest of cardboard people, do you make a sound?

Okay but the this program is an ode to Joubert. Techno music that goes nowhere, a sparkly costume, empty program and good jumps.

Vincent deserves better! How the hell are you supposed to interpret this music?
 
Nathan Chen should be way more famous in the US than he actually is for what he’s doing athletically.
I have a young, black guy as a co-worker who knows nothing about skating but he's actually heard of Nathan Chen, so he's not entirely unknown, but yes, he should be far more famous in the US than he is.
 
There's that, but then there's the actual Federation - didn't they basically torpedo their best Junior Pairs team because the skaters wanted to be coached by his mom, and the Federation wouldn't allow it. There is a reason that the top Ukrainian skaters all skate for other nations over the past couple decades.

Yes, the pair team that had Ivan Pavlov in it (too lazy to look up the partner name). He looked into moving to another country, but he must have retired because he calls himself a coach on his social media accounts. I don't know what happened with the partner. They weren't a hugely successful pair, but Pavlov really worked and bulked up when he switched to pairs and I thought he had a lot of potential. It's a shame that the UKR skaters have no support whatsover, but the ones that do leave have good basics and can find success elsewhere. You'd think the UKR Fed would look at skaters like Savchenko and Volosozhar and realize if they kept/supported their people, all those golds could be theirs. But nope, guess not 🤷‍♀️
 
Yes, the pair team that had Ivan Pavlov in it (too lazy to look up the partner name). He looked into moving to another country, but he must have retired because he calls himself a coach on his social media accounts. I don't know what happened with the partner. They weren't a hugely successful pair, but Pavlov really worked and bulked up when he switched to pairs and I thought he had a lot of potential. It's a shame that the UKR skaters have no support whatsover, but the ones that do leave have good basics and can find success elsewhere. You'd think the UKR Fed would look at skaters like Savchenko and Volosozhar and realize if they kept/supported their people, all those golds could be theirs. But nope, guess not 🤷‍♀️
Control of the skaters being more important than the results, apparently.
 
If Paniot keeps skating cleanly and gets even more consistent quads, I predict he’ll make the Olympic team next year. I’m not kidding. It’s my no guts, no glory pick, but I can see it happening. Skating skills be damned. Even Johnny was won over, Lmao.

Does he have US citizenship to go to the Olympics?
 
Good fight from Vincent but that program leaves much to be desired. Did Lori choreograph that?!
 
Why did Zhou's 1F get a negative GOE? It was super high, with good coverage, good exit and well executed....
 

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