2020-21 Canadian Women News & Updates

Vase

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I’m sure this decision won’t be easy, I’m not fully confident with Daleman. Her age, experience and speed should have her well ahead of these younger top ladies.
 

tony

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I’m sure this decision won’t be easy, I’m not fully confident with Daleman. Her age, experience and speed should have her well ahead of these younger top ladies.
Remember, they still have 2 spots to Worlds. I think Schizas and Daleman would be named since Pineault is out for the season as it is and really is the only one who would probably make things complicated. Bausback would likely get (really) hammered on PCS, and isn't really deserving after Challenge anyways.

I don't have a ton of confidence in Gabby, but there's a huge drop-off between the top 10 or 11 ladies and the rest of the field, and on a decent day she probably has a good chance of getting into 12th.
 

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Scoring over 175 this year so far are the 3 RUS, 3JPN, 2US, Loena, Kiibus, Hongyi, Safonova, Gutmann (nationals score), and Kurakova (nats score). Add in 2 from KOR and that is 16. Schizas scored 175 and Schumacher 168 at Challenge. Schizas has 175 from Challenge Cup 2020 and Schumacher's ISU SB is 174 so that's right in that range too. I think they could be in contention to make top 24 at Worlds along with Feigin, Paganini, Saarinen or Peltonen, JLang or Toth, Ryabova, FRA, Van Zundert, GER, Grm, Taljegard, Brezinova, Craine, Urushadze, Zingas, and McKay. We would have a little better idea where they slot in internationally vs. Daleman if Skate Canada or some other comps had occurred...
 

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I actually didn’t even consider Daleman to be in the picture. How many times can Skate Canada give her second chances despite poor domestic performances? Her FP at Challenge wasn’t good and I didn’t think she had medaled. But then the rest of the field did not do well either. Don’t get me wrong, I love her skating, just not sure sending her this year is the right decision or message to the other skaters who have been performing more consistently.

I think if there is a worlds, Canadian ladies number of spots is inevitably going down to 1. Likely Schizas and Schumacher, who need experience, and hopefully Skate Canada would not put pressure on them for placement. Schumacher might not make it out of SP if she doesn’t land her jumps.... however her basic skating skills would buffer her and help her get into FP if she does land them, despite lower jump content IMO. Schizas - I kind of assume she will skate well and surpass expectations, as she’s been doing over the past year.
 

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As these videos were shot some weeks ago, it might be helpful to have some more recent monitoring. Things could look different. It would be especially useful to know how the short programs are going. A short with no triples landed well could bury a skater so deep they stand no chance of redemption regardless of spins and footwork levels. I agree, it is hard to predict with only one competition to go by but this is one time I feel they need to look at more than just these two skates for the second spot and if it is more for the experience give it to the younger ones.
 

Vase

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I am also unsure if Daleman has the mental strength to pull it off, but I would assume she could keep in the top 12. Just as I would assume Alison could also be top 12. But thinking long term, the younger athletes may be benefit a lot more from this experience.
 

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I am also unsure if Daleman has the mental strength to pull it off, but I would assume she could keep in the top 12. Just as I would assume Alison could also be top 12. But thinking long term, the younger athletes may be benefit a lot more from this experience.
I agree. I don’t recall the last time Daleman skated with any emotion or expression at all. She looks like she’s skating 100% focused (and understandibly so) on mechanics. This was as low pressure a competition as she could have had, no fans, guaranteed to move on to Nationals and yet she still struggled. When she finished her look was like she was saying to herself “well that wasn’t a total disaster”. The risk with sending her is even if she skates well she’s no longer a top competitor compared to the Russian ladies and if she has one of “those” skates she will be certainly out of the top ten. I’ve always been a huge Gabby fan but sadly it seems her best days are behind her.
 

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