2017-2018 Program Music and Choreographers

[MR-FAN]

I hope Shae gave Kevin a rock n roll program. It is what he does best.

I like his video game programs the most

 

[Marco]

Does it mean Mirai and Evgenia have the same short program music?

As for Miss Saigon, I think it can work. Familiar melody yet not overused, and a big ta-da ending. Satoko did a memorable version recently (2015?).

 

[MAXSwagg]

Looks like Yuzu is going to be a brat and make us wait until August...

 

[LKR]

Does it mean Mirai and Evgenia have the same short program music?

As for Miss Saigon, I think it can work. Familiar melody yet not overused, and a big ta-da ending. Satoko did a memorable version recently (2015?).

Mirai and Evgenia will have the same music, though I think slightly different versions.

Satoko skated to Saigon in 2014/2015 as well as Yu-Na (2007/2008).

 

[chapis]

Vincent Zhou's SP is to Cinematic Pop's cover of Snow Patrol's "Chasing Cars".

https://twitter.com/icenetwork/status/883061797925908481

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm4GNxTANDs

This is something I seriously imagined when they announced lyrics will be allowed. This reminds me of my time watching Grey's Anatomy.

I always wanted to see someone using this song, but why not the original version??!!! , the Cinematic version seems that it has no climax

 

[Debbie S]

Sean Rabbitt has posted on his Instagram that he is keeping his Mambo FS from last season and his SP will be Tequila ("a swing version").

 

[Marco]

Mirai and Evgenia will have the same music, though I think slightly different versions.

Satoko skated to Saigon in 2014/2015 as well as Yu-Na (2007/2008).

Yuna's Miss Saigon was slightly underwhelming for me if only because it was sandwiched between her two signature long programs to The Lark Ascending and Scheherazade.

 

[Karpenko]

GoldenSkate tweeted that Mirai Nagasu will have a new long program to Miss Saigon (instrumental).

https://twitter.com/goldenskate/status/883034161837113344

More to come very soon. (Ted Flett is an amazing guy and we should all think he's great.)

I think it's a great choice!!

 

[bardtoob]

Med choosing the same music as Mirai will only draw attention to Mirai, which, IMO, will be advantageous to Mirai because now "the judges will be looking at her."

 

[nuge]

Looks like Yuzu is going to be a brat and make us wait until August...

Not as bad as being a dance fan we never ever hear much till first competiitons

 

[misskarne]

Med choosing the same music as Mirai will only draw attention to Mirai, which, IMO, will be advantageous to Mirai because now "the judges will be looking at her."

I'd rather think it'd be disadvantageous to have comparisons drawn, particularly given Evgenia actually rotates her jumps...

 

[arakwafan2006]

Up to a point. One of the limitations of those Matrix, martial arts programs the boys were doing is the lack of emotional range. I think that hurt Stojko. Acting out tough guy for 4 minutes is not much to work with. If they make a ballade out of it - the youthful warrior, the reflective warrior, the warrior in defeat, etc. it could be wonderful on her. Like Jason's Tristan program.

I agree to an extent except clearly Shae Lynne Bourne had a different opinion with Yuzuru last season and it was my favorite program he's ever done. I have to say, I think Elvis hurt Elvis. He reminds me of Max Aaron...hard-F&%$ing -headed!!!! The difference is, Elvis had consistent jumps up to and including a Quad and was technically in the upper echelon of technical ability for that time period. I just saw a new video of Max practicing his footwork for his short program. It's a awful as ever in terms of skating skills. Then I see him practicing quad axel on a harness etc.

He needs to change coaches if he hopes to continue. His regression is sad

 

[sleepywalrus]

I'd rather think it'd be disadvantageous to have comparisons drawn, particularly given Evgenia actually rotates her jumps...

This was an unnecessary jab, and one would expect that someone who so strongly defends their favorites would know better than to make comments like this.

I, for one, am excited to see what the two Chopins will bring, even if, in nicer words, Mirai isn't exactly a contender against Evgenia.

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

I'd rather think it'd be disadvantageous to have comparisons drawn, particularly given Evgenia actually rotates her jumps...

The judges look at Mirai. At times, too hard. Here's why I think a second Nocturne will be a competitive disadvantage. to Mirai I believe Mirai will go first(they use ISU ranking)?. The judges will hold down Mirai's mark leaving room for a better Nocturne by Med. There will be a competition-to-competition effect as well. Med will get the better mark, probably more world-record scores. Mirai's Nocturne will fade into the background. Like, a cheap imitation.

I think Med's team acted unsportsmanly in the way they went about this. To compare take the Shibs vs. V/M. The Shibs have been talking about another Cold Play program for a while; i believe it's settled now. If V/M were thinking of the same music I think they would have checked it out and dropped the idea if the Shibs were going ahead. To take the same music of a near but lower ranked rival would have been unsportsmanly. I think this is what happened with the Nocturne. Med's team could of just picked up the phone. What they did instead was mean spirited to a colleague

 

[zebraswan]

LOL! There is no way anyone in Medvedeva's team was checking for Mirai Nagasu's program choices.

 

[GullyGirl84]

Yes, it's extremely doubtful that they thought anything of Mirai's choices when making their music decision. I more chalk it up to bad luck from Mirai that they have the same pieces this year (and both violin) and the same grand prixs. And I think this is the only time that Mirai has ever repeated a program.

Plus, did anyone get higher scores than Evgenia last year in either the short or the long? I don't think so. So I don't think it's exactly a slam to assume that Mirai (or anyone, if Evgenia is in the same form) wouldn't get as high a score as her. Mirai should just focus on her own program. For Mirai, it would be worse for her if another US lady in contention for the olympic team had the same music as her. It would be worse if they had the same music for a long program. I'm interested to see if Evgenia tries to mime Chopin. From my viewpoint, more Chopin in the world is never a bad thing compared to some of the other warhorses.

 

[VGThuy]

I really doubt the judges care if they score two programs to the same music well so long as the skaters deliver. We all know it's all about executing elements well and looking confident and really bringing it on performance wise. Mirai's choreography was done by Buttle and she got good notices for it. If she scores lower than Med's SP this season, it's not as if it was unexpected and it won't be because her choreography will pale in comparison to Med...in actuality she'd probably score the same PCS range if she skated to a different routine. Med could skate to chicken noises and cats screeching and still get higher PCS thanks to what she has established in the past two seasons and she would probably perform that Averbukh choreography with the attitude of a champion and sell whatever character she is portraying.

Let's face it, Mirai is hoping to make the Olympic team and probably is hoping to at least medal at at least one GP. Making the GPF would be like winning Worlds for her at this point in her career. Med is hoping to add more Rippons and jumps in the second half of the LP and break the number of 10.0s and +3 GOEs she can get in one performance. Not saying Mirai may not actually beat Med in the GP if Med uncharacteristically implodes and Mirai uncharacteristically skates two excellent, clean routines and sells it at the same time, but they both have different expectations and goals this season and there is a reason for that.

 

[chapis]

Anyway, no one will skate Chopin as well as Mao

 

[misskarne]

I just saw a new video of Max practicing his footwork for his short program. It's a awful as ever in terms of skating skills. Then I see him practicing quad axel on a harness etc.

Let me guess, it was actually an old video of Max doing the bullfighter SP footwork?

As for the quad Axel comment...right. I forgot. Max is not allowed to play or have fun on the ice. Any other notable jumper can, but not him.

Max is not, will not ever be and does not wish to be Elvis Stojko. And it's a good thing too.

This was an unnecessary jab, and one would expect that someone who so strongly defends their favorites would know better than to make comments like this.

It's true, though. It'd be like putting Max right alongside Jason and comparing spins. I'm not stupid enough to believe Max would ever win THAT argument.

I think Med's team acted unsportsmanly in the way they went about this.

Anyone who thinks Medvedeva's team even so much as had a flickering thought about deliberately choosing the same music to undermine the fourth-ranked American lady - not even an actual challenger for Evgenia! -is, quite frankly, a delusional idiot.

PS Pretty sure Nagasu's decision on repeating was actually up in the air officially until very recently, also. Are you suggesting the REIGNING WORLD CHAMPION should have to do a last-minute complete change of program just to not be "mean" to a skater who wasn't even at Worlds?

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

Let me guess, it was actually an old video of Max doing the bullfighter SP footwork?

As for the quad Axel comment...right. I forgot. Max is not allowed to play or have fun on the ice. Any other notable jumper can, but not him.

Max is not, will not ever be and does not wish to be Elvis Stojko. And it's a good thing too.



It's true, though. It'd be like putting Max right alongside Jason and comparing spins. I'm not stupid enough to believe Max would ever win THAT argument.



Anyone who thinks Medvedeva's team even so much as had a flickering thought about deliberately choosing the same music to undermine the fourth-ranked American lady - not even an actual challenger for Evgenia! -is, quite frankly, a delusional idiot.

PS Pretty sure Nagasu's decision on repeating was actually up in the air officially until very recently, also. Are you suggesting the REIGNING WORLD CHAMPION should have to do a last-minute complete change of program just to not be "mean" to a skater who wasn't even at Worlds?

Name calling has no place here. if you cant make your point based on facts alone, you can't make it. You owe me an apology.

 

[jenny12]

Anyway, no one will skate Chopin as well as Mao

That settles everything!

 

[bardtoob]

I'd rather think it'd be disadvantageous to have comparisons drawn, particularly given Evgenia actually rotates her jumps...

Is what Evgenia does called "jumps" when they don't get off the ice?

... @misskarne if you come up with too many good zingers, like this one, I might start to like you

 

[zebraswan]

Max Kovtun

SP - flamenco
LP - Pink Floyd

http://www.fsrussia.ru/intervyu/303...rvye-zarabotannye-dengi-kupil-mame-shubu.html

 

[DobrinFan]

Mai Mihara SP Libertango
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20170707-00000119-dal-spo

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Max Kovtun

SP - flamenco
LP - Pink Floyd

http://www.fsrussia.ru/intervyu/303...rvye-zarabotannye-dengi-kupil-mame-shubu.html

Im left unenthused

Its too expected. I feel he has never left his comfort zone.

 

[SmallFairy]

Gabby Daleman FS Gladiator Rhapsody
https://twitter.com/gabby_daleman/status/882643164250722305

More Daleman-power, love it!

 

[Rock2]

I, for one, am excited to see what the two Chopins will bring.

Me, too. To also see if either ends up being better than Phaneuf's short in 2010. It's beautiful music, but it's boring as heck if you don't bring energy to it. Phaneuf's energy and choreo is the standard IMHO. This is Mirai's challenge, because Med can definitely infuse this music with her own brand of spritz.

 

[Seerek]

Eun-soo Lim of South Korea (4th, Junior Worlds) used Miss Saigon last season for her free skate.

 

[meggonzo]

Med could skate to chicken noises and cats screeching and still get higher PCS thanks to what she has established in the past two seasons and she would probably perform that Averbukh choreography with the attitude of a champion and sell whatever character she is portraying.

Please don't give Averbukh any ideas!!!

 

[bardtoob]

Med could skate to chicken noises and cats screeching and still get higher PCS thanks to what she has established in the past two seasons and she would probably perform that Averbukh choreography with the attitude of a champion and sell whatever character she is portraying.

Please don't give Averbukh any ideas!!!

Maybe Averbukh will capture the true spirit of Chopin in his choreography . . . by having Evegenia skate like she is in her late 30's and dying of tuberculosis . . . like a champ.