Russian Figure Skater tests positive for drugs - delays ceremony for team medals

[becca]

RUSADA was supposed to tag Valieva’s test for priority processing at the Swedish lab and did not.

Victor Conte knows more about performance-enhancing drugs than anybody on the planet. Google him.

Not saying that but I do think Russia would have wanted to know about her test

 

[Excidra]

Can they please ban Eteri from the sport. She was seen scolding Kamila and asking why she didn't fight harder. This woman doesn't know how to feel. For the sake of these children, because you know they will come to her, ban her from the sport.

 

[KaoriFan]

What is the strategy of people saying Kamila may not know she was doped, that her coaches gave it to her unknowingly? What about Anna and Sasha then? The coaches only doped one skater but not the rest?

They will all throw Kamila under the bus now to save themselves.

 

[skatingguy]

What is the strategy of people saying Kamila may not know she was doped, that her coaches gave it to her unknowingly? What about Anna and Sasha then? The coaches only doped one skater but not the rest?

Individualized plans with different drugs doesn't seem to fit their style.

They will all throw Kamila under the bus now to save themselves.

They don't need her now that she didn't finish on the podium.

 

[KaoriFan]

Polina Edmunds talking about her suspicions of all Eteri girls in The Skating Lesson today. Just uploaded. Interesting to listen to it.

I think it's fair to question the legitimacy of the other Eteri skaters.

-Polina Edmunds

This isn't an attack on Russian skaters as a whole. It's an Eteri shame.

-Polina Edmunds

 

[MacMadame]

Orders, invoices, payments for PEDs

You can't shred bits in the cloud!

 

[Karen-W]

You can't shred bits in the cloud!

I bet Putin's hackers would try...

 

[Karina1974]

Tbh, I just want that poor girl to get away from that environment. She's been failed by so many adults in so many ways by now, it's just incredibly sad. I hope she has a healthy and happy life and can get some counseling. What a trainwreck.

I think all three Russian skaters need that to happen. The idea of Trusova yelling about how, she "hates the sport" after the final results were posted is disturbing to say the least.

 

[overedge]

What is the strategy of people saying Kamila may not know she was doped, that her coaches gave it to her unknowingly? What about Anna and Sasha then? The coaches only doped one skater but not the rest?

They will all throw Kamila under the bus now to save themselves.

It's more likely than not that Kamila wasn't the only skater being doped. And it's also not impossible that every skater that was doped was doped without their knowledge. The only difference between Kamila and the other skaters at this point is that Kamila tested positive. The other skaters might just have been doped with better timing, so they didn't test positive.

 

[Bulletsdad]

You can't shred bits in the cloud!

Well, you can delete your online bookkeeping files. Forensics can probably track this info, depending on how far the RUSADA is willing to go, and how far outside investigators such as WADA and FBI are allowed to go.

 

[MacMadame]

Well, you can delete your online bookkeeping files. Forensics can probably track this info, depending on how far the RUSADA is willing to go, and how far outside investigators such as WADA and FBI are allowed to go.

The banks will have their side of the transaction though. In fact, if I were investigating, I'd go there first because I wouldn't trust the records of the people I was investigating.

 

[Rafter]

The banks will have their side of the transaction though. In fact, if I were investigating, I'd go there first because I wouldn't trust the records of the people I was investigating.

This is Russia. The banks will probably destroy the records to help cover up for Eteri.

 

[Bulletsdad]

The banks will have their side of the transaction though. In fact, if I were investigating, I'd go there first because I wouldn't trust the records of the people I was investigating.

Will banks in Russia cooperate if not International? Also, banks can reveal payments, but not specifics of invoice. Investigators can then check pharmacy records, but those records are likely being scrubbed. Anyway, I hope the forensic investigators can do their job.

 

[becca]

Honestly I would rather not have the US government look into this I think we have enough going on with Russia right now

 

[masaccio]

Russia really has a inferiority complex they always have to blame someone else when they get caught cheating or get their asses handed to them fair and square in sports or anything for that ma

Sorry I don't know how to post a tweet link but today Johnny Weir (we all know how pro-Russian he is) tweeted about his heartbreak for figure skating over the Valieva-drug issue. He also stated he waited for the facts to come out before tweeting. If you are on twitter you can look up his statement.

There is nothing fair and square about the treatment of Valieva at these Olympics. It's a pity the American commentators, with the exception of Terry Gannon, couldn't spare an iota of "heartbreak" for Valieva herself. I find it incredibly inhuman that armed with a tiny number of facts that mere media idols, who have not, themselves, had any real claim to fame for decades, feel completely at home with destroying an athlete who clearly has demonstrated complete commitment to her art. So quick to jump on the popular bandwagon are they. I frankly have spent the afternoon fantasizing wrapping my fingers around Weirs scrawny, pathetic, attention-mongering throat. Tara has been moderately more humane, but not by much.
I'm sure this is probably not the correct forum to express my utter disgust with America's official position on this issue. I spent quite a bit of time trying to find a place to write about this and finally just had to go with it. If anyone has a redirect for me, I'm happy to hear it. Thanks.

 

[MacMadame]

There is nothing fair and square about the treatment of Valieva at these Olympics. It's a pity the American commentators, with the exception of Terry Gannon, couldn't spare an iota of "heartbreak" for Valieva herself. I

The American commentators constantly talked about how sorry they were for Kamila and how she had been done wrong by her team and it wasn't her fault.

And "America" hasn't got an "official position." Do you think the President has commented on this? USOC has said one thing -- that the rules weren't followed properly, wasn't involved in the appeal to CAS and USFS wasn't either, and hasn't said anything as far as I know.

 

[aussieSKATES]

Watching what transpired backstage immediately after the Women's Final via NBC's broadcast, really took any shine off the Olympic Spirit. We felt so much for what these athletes go through to get here and compete.

 

[KaoriFan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1494509767330463746

Well, they are going to come after Eteri if the IOC is making public statement like this. When I watch Eteri's cruel reaction to Kamila after her skate, and see Trusova's tantrum, it looks more and more like the beginning of the blame game.

Anna won the gold medal so she will be protected. She look like the safe one concerned in the distance in the Kiss and Cry.

 

[KaoriFan]

Oops I missed this one too:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1494524951579308034

I'm already happy with Kaori's medal, because Kaori is happy. She's the best skater, whether she win gold or bronze. I feel really bad for Wakaba and Young You, though, because if the other skaters aren't clean they are the ones who really got cheated.

 

[briancoogaert]

Oops I missed this one too:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1494524951579308034

I'm already happy with Kaori's medal, because Kaori is happy. She's the best skater, whether she win gold or bronze. I feel really bad for Wakaba and Young You, though, because if the other skaters aren't clean they are the ones who really got cheated.

And they already got cheated by receiving less PCS than Trusova, which is non sense to me.

Anyway, Trusova's reaction is not that bad. It's from a teenager who lives her entire life for Figure Skating and wants only one thing : landing big jumps. I understand her reaction, even if I think she shouldn't have won anyway.

 

[Nadya]

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There is a practicing Muslim skater who competes in a hajib. Not every practicing Muslim woman is forced to wear a burka and avoid sports.

No, but most practicing, Quran-reading women Muslims are serious about not displaying themselves. Note I'm not judging, I'm relaying to you what the rules of religious practice say about female body display for mixed audiences.

 

[Nadya]

Well, you can delete your online bookkeeping files. Forensics can probably track this info, depending on how far the RUSADA is willing to go, and how far outside investigators such as WADA and FBI are allowed to go.

LOL what are you hoping to find there? A handwritten plan in Eteri's hand saying, "don't forget to dope Kamila, here's the schedule"?

 

[Nadya]

The American commentators constantly talked about how sorry they were for Kamila and how she had been done wrong by her team and it wasn't her fault.

And "America" hasn't got an "official position." Do you think the President has commented on this? USOC has said one thing -- that the rules weren't followed properly, wasn't involved in the appeal to CAS and USFS wasn't either, and hasn't said anything as far as I know.

But the same commentators were quite clearly saying earlier: "Kamila, no one wants you here." Right or wrong, the media has contributed a tremendous chunk to the pressure and bullying Kamila received. First, by disclosing her name with wild abandon, second, by disclosing the legal bits of her test in positively salivating tone, as if it means anything, and by relentless piling on. You can't really blame them because more reporters are eyeball hunters and drama leads. I mean do you think Brennan asks herself - hey, maybe I shouldn't be bullying a disabled teenager because Eteri is her mother? No, she has a story and she's riding it without much regard as to who gets caught under the wheels. Again, that's the nature of the craft that elevates you to the top of your trade for taking a beautiful photo of a bombing victim, not for saving it.

I'm just saying that the choice they made to earn exposure by digging into the life of a 15-year old is not morally neutral.

 

[SLIVER]

Zhulin just wrote an open letter to Bach on his instagram, slating him and telling him essentially to mind his own business, that Eteri who has trained multiple Olympic champions doesn't need his advice and the IOC ruined the girl etc etc...That they are targeting the Russians because they use Meldonium (which wasn't previously banned) and that it can stay in your system for years, then goes on to site Bobrova's case

 

[Xela M]

Can they please ban Eteri from the sport. She was seen scolding Kamila and asking why she didn't fight harder. This woman doesn't know how to feel. For the sake of these children, because you know they will come to her, ban her from the sport.

She also (eventually) came up to Anna and asked her why she didn't do a lutz

 

[Bigbird]

Zhulin just wrote an open letter to Bach on his instagram, slating him and telling him essentially to mind his own business, that Eteri who has trained multiple Olympic champions doesn't need his advice and the IOC ruined the girl etc etc...That they are targeting the Russians because they use Meldonium (which wasn't previously banned) and that it can stay in your system for years, then goes on to site Bobrova's case

Talk about making the case for the IOC without them lifting a finger. And they wonder why they aren't trusted? Learn to read the room..get a sensitivity chip.

 

[becca]

She also (eventually) came up to Anna and asked her why she didn't do a lutz

Isn’t RAF tough like that though didn’t Nathan say that his mom told him things about performance that could be better?

Some of this although not all is different cultures

 

[Xela M]

Isn’t RAF tough like that though didn’t Nathan say that his mom told him things about performance that could be better?

Some of this although not all is different cultures

Raf was ECSTATIC when Nathan won! He was jumping around punching the air, hugging and congratulating him.

Nathan was NOT sitting by himself whilst his stoney-faced coach displayed zero emotion about his win except some eventual criticism. VERY different reactions from Raf and Eteri! Raf is definitely human.

...although some of it may be Eteri's Botox

 

[becca]

Raf was ECSTATIC when Nathan won! He was jumping around punching the air, hugging and congratulating him.

Nathan was NOT sitting by himself whilst his stoney-faced coach displayed zero emotion about his win except some eventual criticism. VERY different reactions from Raf and Eteri! Raf is definitely human

True but RAF didn’t have two other skaters who also could win gold

 

[wickedwitch]

Raf was ECSTATIC when Nathan won! He was jumping around punching the air, hugging and congratulating him.

Nathan was NOT sitting by himself whilst his stoney-faced coach displayed zero emotion about his win except some eventual criticism. VERY different reactions from Raf and Eteri! Raf is definitely human.

...although some of it may be Eteri's Botox

My favorite was Raf's reaction to Adam's SP score at the 2018 US Nats.