Russian Figure Skater tests positive for drugs - delays ceremony for team medals

[sk9tingfan]

Phil Hersh just posted a full version of the CAS ruling:

https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/OG_22_08-09-10_Arbitral_Award__publication_.pdf

 

[becca]

Phil Hersh just posted a full version of the CAS ruling:

https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/OG_22_08-09-10_Arbitral_Award__publication_.pdf

I skimmed it she will be applying for B sample

 

[aka_gerbil]

What other options?

Any of Trusova, Scherbekova, Liza T would have had the same result in the ladies portion of the team event. Russia had a deep bench. They didn’t need Valieva for the TE.

 

[barbarafan]

Tbh, I just want that poor girl to get away from that environment. She's been failed by so many adults in so many ways by now, it's just incredibly sad. I hope she has a healthy and happy life and can get some counseling. What a trainwreck.

very sad....Did Eteri tell her to go home and make babies.

 

[Rafter]

Any of Trusova, Scherbekova, Liza T would have had the same result in the ladies portion of the team event. Russia had a deep bench. They didn’t need Valieva for the TE.

I think Valieva was their sure bet though. The above named skaters maybe with the exception of Scherbakova could have lost in the TE to a Japanese woman.

 

[becca]

I think Valieva was their sure bet though. The above named skaters maybe with the exception of Scherbakova could have lost in the TE to a Japanese woman.

The Russians won by nine points even if they lose to the Japanese women they would have still won team gold.

I don’t think they would have knowingly risked Furthemore Liza could have won bronze here.

They didn’t need Kamila to win gold in team or ladies.

Makes no sense to cover up her positive results if you are them

 

[sjs5572]

TSL tweeted that his source at Sambo-70 said they were told to cover their asses and shred the financial statements. Then he deleted it. I wonder if Dave or his source was threatened?

 

[Meoima]

TSL tweeted that his source at Sambo-70 said they were told to cover up asses and shred the financial statements. Then he deleted it. I wonder if he or his source was threatened?

I assume it was mostly hear-say and there is no obvious/concrete evidence. Even if it did happen it would be very hard to prove. And whoever spread such information might get sued if not enough receipts are found.

 

[MacMadame]

TSL tweeted that his source at Sambo-70 said they were told to cover their asses and shred the financial statements. Then he deleted it. I wonder if Dave or his source was threatened?

They don't have bank statements online in Russia? (i.e., what good does burning the paper do in this online era)

 

[Frau Muller]

The FBI field office in Moscow is working with Russian police on this case. Yes, they cooperate on some trans-National cases. Serious sh**. (related more to commercial crimes than obvious skating-related aspects of this saga)

 

[Rafter]

Alina returned to Izhevsk shortly after winning gold in 2018 to a parade welcoming her back. She spoke a sentence or two in Tatar saying how proud she was to be a Muslim representing her hometown. AFAIK, that's the only time she's ever acknowledged it. I'll try to find the video on YouTube.

So are these girls ethnically Muslims but not practicing Muslims?

They are on their Instagram pages posing in front of Christmas trees in their apartments (or at least Zagitova is). I don’t know any Muslims who would do this. Granted, any Muslim I know is pretty strict about following the religion.

 

[Nadya]

So are these girls ethnically Muslims but not practicing Muslims?

They are on their Instagram pages posing in front of Christmas trees in their apartments (or at least Zagitova is). I don’t know any Muslims who would do this. Granted, any Muslim I know is pretty strict about following the religion.

There is no such thing as "ethnic" Muslim. Tatars are culturally Muslim. No practicing, observant Muslim family would have a daughter in figure skating.

 

[Karen-W]

There is no such thing as "ethnic" Muslim. Tatars are culturally Muslim. No practicing, observant Muslim family would have a daughter in figure skating.

And yet, we've had at least one skater from the UAE who wears a hijab and is clearly a practicing Muslim compete at ISU competitions in recent years...

 

[Nadya]

And yet, we've had at least one skater from the UAE who wears a hijab and is clearly a practicing Muslim compete at ISU competitions in recent years...

LOL define practicing Muslim, please.

 

[Karen-W]

LOL define practicing Muslim, please.

Well, she's from the UAE and was wearing a hijab and fully covered from head to toe. But, hey, maybe that's not enough evidence for you...

 

[MacMadame]

Well, she's from the UAE and was wearing a hijab and fully covered from head to toe. But, hey, maybe that's not enough evidence for you...

She's talked about it too. How she tries to balance her faith with the rules of figure skating.

 

[becca]

Well, she's from the UAE and was wearing a hijab and fully covered from head to toe. But, hey, maybe that's not enough evidence for you...

Yes that would be a practicing Muslim

 

[zebraswan]

So are these girls ethnically Muslims but not practicing Muslims?

They are on their Instagram pages posing in front of Christmas trees in their apartments (or at least Zagitova is). I don’t know any Muslims who would do this. Granted, any Muslim I know is pretty strict about following the religion.

New Year tree - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[once_upon]

TSL tweeted that his source at Sambo-70 said they were told to cover their asses and shred the financial statements. Then he deleted it. I wonder if Dave or his source was threatened?

Why are they supposed to shred financial records? I'm missing something here

 

[Karen-W]

Why are they supposed to shred financial records? I'm missing something here

Paper trail showing purchases...

 

[DreamSkates]

Whatever happens in the long run with the investigation it was just so sad to watch (replay) the ladies free program. “Irreparable harm” is also putting a 15 year old in this kind of pressure. Not to mention Trusiva’s reaction. Crushing for both skaters and their coaches I hope will have learned some important things. That is all I will say. A sad day for figure skating.

 

[escaflowne9282]

So are these girls ethnically Muslims but not practicing Muslims?

They are on their Instagram pages posing in front of Christmas trees in their apartments (or at least Zagitova is). I don’t know any Muslims who would do this. Granted, any Muslim I know is pretty strict about following the religion.

That may have been a New Year's tree. I know many ethnically Jewish Russian's who put up trees for NYE . I imagine it may be the same for Russians of the Muslim faith.

 

[Spikefan]

Don’t they know, flush those receipts down the toilet.

 

[soogar]

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There is a practicing Muslim skater who competes in a hajib. Not every practicing Muslim woman is forced to wear a burka and avoid sports.

 

[sjs5572]

They don't have bank statements online in Russia? (i.e., what good does burning the paper do in this online era)

Why are they supposed to shred financial records? I'm missing something here

 

[sjs5572]

I guess because of orders, invoices, and payments for the PEDs

 

[sjs5572]

Why are they supposed to shred financial records? I'm missing something here

Orders, invoices, payments for PEDs

 

[Vagabond]

There is no such thing as "ethnic" Muslim. Tatars are culturally Muslim. No practicing, observant Muslim family would have a daughter in figure skating.

Yes, there is such a thing as an "ethnic" Muslim. Not in Russia, though.

No, not all Tatars are culturally Muslim. Some are culturally Orthodox; others are culturally secular.

Alina Zagitova is a Tatar and identifies publicly as Muslim. Kamila Valieva is a Tatar too, but AFAIK, she has never disclosed whether she identifies as Muslim, Orthodox, or something else. If you have a source that you can share, please do.

 

[KaoriFan]

I'm curious how serious the investigation will be now. I think the results today make it much more likely the investigation will be more serious and Valieva more likely to be DQ, because Russian side will want answers not just sweep under the rug anymore when Olympics are over.

Anna will be untouchable, Trusova? I don't know. But Wakaba Higuchi and Young You are on the clock if anything more turns up.

 

[japanice]

I just don’t buy this. Yes cover ups happen but Russia had other options I am not sure he is aware of that

RUSADA was supposed to tag Valieva’s test for priority processing at the Swedish lab and did not.

Victor Conte knows more about performance-enhancing drugs than anybody on the planet. Google him.