Russian women news & updates, 2021-22 season

[Frau Muller]

Oct 23 latest:
Phil Hersh’s tweet about conflict between Eteri & Trusova...about the content of Sasha’s planned programs. Eteri wants Sasha to go ahead & compete with watered-down content. Sasha thinks differently.

https://mobile.twitter.com/olyphil

 

[Sylvia]

Direct link to Hersh's tweet about Trusova: https://twitter.com/olyphil/status/1451738820202930177

Andrea Joyce of NBC reported that Trusova will decided Saturday morning whether to compete. Trusova’s coach, Eteri Tutberidze, told Joyce that she and the skater discussed watering down Trusova’s programs but Trusova did not want to do that.

 

[Wyliefan]

That's the most Trusova thing I've ever heard. All or nothing. Well, I hope she makes the best possible decision for herself and her health, and I hope she recovers quickly and completely!

 

[Vash01]

I hope Trusova can compete well in her next GP. I don't see her competing here or doing well if she decides to compete. Sad, but she must take care of her health and her long term goals.

 

[Bigbird]

I hope Trusova can compete well in her next GP. I don't see her competing here or doing well if she decides to compete. Sad, but she must take care of her health and her long term goals.

Plushenko must be relieved. This is not the first time this conversation has been had about Trusova.

 

[Wyliefan]

What does Plushenko have to do with anything? She's not with him anymore.

 

[love_skate2011]

Only Usacheva can pull off the greatest showman, not even Med can do that. It just shows how she is good with musical threatre ballads.

She should have been 1st overall. That said, I'm not sure though I can stomach these style , regurgitated every season.

 

[hanca]

Only Usacheva can pull off the greatest showman, not even Med can do that. It just shows how she is good with musical threatre ballads.

She should have been 1st overall. That said, I'm not sure though I can stomach these style , regurgitated every season.

I can’t see anyone forcing you to stomach anything. Whatever you watch, you watch it by choice. No one is putting a gun to your head to make you watch it, or keep your eyes open forcibly. If you don’t like it, just don’t watch it. Sorted!

 

[love_skate2011]

I can’t see anyone forcing you to stomach anything. Whatever you watch, you watch it by choice. No one is putting a gun to your head to make you watch it, or keep your eyes open forcibly. If you don’t like it, just don’t watch it. Sorted!

voiced over musical theater ballads is just so otp., We cant change skaters preferred style but doesn't mean when cant rant.
Usacheva almost sold me over with that cheesy song, Its a compliment, I'll giver her that.

Again she deserved 1st place in SP.

 

[hanca]

A bit backhanded compliment. Something like ‘if you were not such an attention seeker, it would be quite enjoyable reading your posts.’ I am also paying you a compliment.

 

[Frau Muller]

Heck - even with a double axel, Sasha is in first!

Heck, Russian women are 1-2-3!!!

And what about the exquisite interpretation (artistry) of Ksenia Sinitsyna?! Oh my goodness. I wasn’t quite prepared for that but am loving it.

 

[Vash01]

Sinitsyna was wonderful. She was the first to skate and a relative unknown. They held her down a bit. JMO.

 

[pointbleu]

voiced over musical theater ballads is just so otp., We cant change skaters preferred style but doesn't mean when cant rant.
Usacheva almost sold me over with that cheesy song, Its a compliment, I'll giver her that.

Again she deserved 1st place in SP.

Not with that flutz... but a great delivery and sensibility and I really like her program.

 

[Cherub721]

Trusova actually had the names of all her dogs on her dress. How adorable is that?

https://mobile.twitter.com/yawning_shoma/status/1452394287421820929

Puts a smile on my face thinking that Tinami Amori would have loved this.

 

[Vash01]

I had seen Trusova in 2018 (JPF). I saw Usacheva and Sinitsyna for the first time at the SA that has just ended.
Both are good skaters but unless they learn the3A and/or a quad they may not make it to the top in Russia.

Sinitsyna is so tiny that the big skating rink says she is too small- particularly when she wears a white dress. Even Usacheva looks bigger than her. Both are very young (16?), so they will grow. Hopefully they won't lose their jumps.

 

[Vash01]

Daria skated a very nice exhibition. Sinitsyna was not in the Ex. Sasha skated a relatively small number.

Hopefully the Russian gals will be able to skate in Skate Canada.

 

[layman]

Was I the only one who noticed a change in Trusova's technique?

She's dropping her back in the landings of her jumps. She was not doing that last season training under Plushenko (where she held her back up). This seems a classic Eteri short-cut. It's part of the technique that she teaches her skaters and we have seen it with Lipnitskaya, Medvedeva, Zagitova, Tursenbayeva, Sherbakova and now Trusova. I fear for Trusova's back.

 

[hanca]

Was I the only one who noticed a change in Trusova's technique?

She's dropping her back in the landings of her jumps. She was not doing that last season training under Plushenko (where she held her back up). This seems a classic Eteri short-cut. It's part of the technique that she teaches her skaters and we have seen it with Lipnitskaya, Medvedeva, Zagitova, Sherbakova and now Trusova. I fear for Trusova's back.

I wouldn’t pay much attention to her technique at this competition. She is injured, it must be quite bad if they considered withdrawing, so that would affect her jumps a lot. Let’s wait and see what she will do later in the season.

 

[Vash01]

Was I the only one who noticed a change in Trusova's technique?

She's dropping her back in the landings of her jumps. She was not doing that last season training under Plushenko (where she held her back up). This seems a classic Eteri short-cut. It's part of the technique that she teaches her skaters and we have seen it with Lipnitskaya, Medvedeva, Zagitova, Tursenbayeva, Sherbakova and now Trusova. I fear for Trusova's back.

Trusova has an injury. That could have changed her landing position.

 

[tony]

Was I the only one who noticed a change in Trusova's technique?

She's dropping her back in the landings of her jumps. She was not doing that last season training under Plushenko (where she held her back up). This seems a classic Eteri short-cut. It's part of the technique that she teaches her skaters and we have seen it with Lipnitskaya, Medvedeva, Zagitova, Tursenbayeva, Sherbakova and now Trusova. I fear for Trusova's back.

I wouldn’t pay much attention to her technique at this competition. She is injured, it must be quite bad if they considered withdrawing, so that would affect her jumps a lot. Let’s wait and see what she will do later in the season.

I don't know when the injury started or how it's progressed, but she did it earlier in the season, too. Nearly every jump pitches forward now.

 

[hanca]

Wow, Nugumanova and Guliakova could end up not qualifying for the nationals. Nugumanova is 12th after the SP, Guliakova 5th. Samodurova is extremely lucky that she qualified through having GP events. She is 8th after SP. There is 6 spots available.

 

[Wyliefan]

Wow, Nugumanova and Guliakova could end up not qualifying for the nationals. Nugumanova is 12th after the SP, Guliakova 5th. Samodurova is extremely lucky that she qualified through having GP events. She is 8th after SP. There is 6 spots available.

I wasn't watching but I looked at the protocols. Pop and a fall for Nugumanova. A double each for Samodurova and Guliakova, plus it looks like Samodurova had a messy combination. Bad day for all of them.

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

It was a terrible day for Guliakova, Samodurova, and Nugumanova. They all looked very out of shape, which was surprising. Of course, they can move up in the LP, but I'm not optimistic.

 

[Frau Muller]

It was a terrible day for Guliakova, Samodurova, and Nugumanova. They all looked very out of shape, which was surprising. Of course, they can move up in the LP, but I'm not optimistic.

Odd about Samodurova, who looked great in Budapest one week ago. “Great” for a non-Eteri/non-Ultra-C gal.

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

Odd about Samodurova, who looked great in Budapest one week ago. “Great” for a non-Eteri/non-Ultra-C gal.

One thing I noticed about Samodurova is that she gets almost zero glide on her edges. It's like her blades are rusty and the second she pushes off onto her skate she starts slowing down. It's very uneven. I'd just like to see her skate cleanly and fast and with purpose. Take an extra stroking class every day. Just do something.

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

Here is a SP from Elena Kostyleva, aged NINE. She's amazing! Her whole program seems to be a footwork sequence! She has mad skills for her age. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9eLrbRiVE

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

I was very happy to see both Sofia Muravieva and Sofia Samodelkina skate well in the SP at the RussiaCup3. Samodelkina eked out her 3axel and was clean. She really has improved over the summer. Her skating is much more mature, polished, finished. I wonder which quads she will go for in the LP? I've seen her land 4lutz, 4loop, 4toe, 4sal, as well as her 3axel. We might see a massive score, since she's already going to Nationals and she has nothing to lose. Muravieva looks improved too since her last outing. Very strong skating. But, no Ultra jumps... It will be interesting to see what both of them attempt in the LP.

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

I always find Alyona Kostornaia's transformation in only a few months with Eteri to be impressive.

Alyona placed 16th at Russian Juniors in March2017 under her old coach. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm2JnSfkadA

Then she switched to Eteri and this was her first junior grand prix in the fall. The transformation is amazing to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uie4rcBGOb4

 

[Tobbe]

I always find Alyona Kostornaia's transformation in only a few months with Eteri to be impressive.

Alyona placed 16th at Russian Juniors in March2017 under her old coach. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm2JnSfkadA

Then she switched to Eteri and this was her first junior grand prix in the fall. The transformation is amazing to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uie4rcBGOb4

Yes, the content is the same, but she got so much more polish out of every move. It is really impressive. And she managed to take a bronze at senior nationals later that year.

 

[Wyliefan]

Wow, Nugumanova and Guliakova could end up not qualifying for the nationals. Nugumanova is 12th after the SP, Guliakova 5th. Samodurova is extremely lucky that she qualified through having GP events. She is 8th after SP. There is 6 spots available.

The event page is down, but if my memory and my calculations are all correct -- Samodelkina won, with Muravieva in 2nd. Samodurova finished 4th in the free, 5th overall. Guliakova finished in 6th and Nugumanova in 11th.