Sport24: Aleksandra Trusova leaving Tutberidze for Plushenko

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Will Valieva also leave, she worked a lot with Roganov. This will be very interesting, especially if next season is a bust. What a ridiculous time to make a move!
 

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That is my worry, that Plushenko's team won't pay any more attention to developing her skating skills and artistry than Eteri's did.
I am more worried about the skating conditions at Pluschenko’s academy. The size of ice...
 

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I've said it before and i'll say it again Trusova has fantastic jump technique and her jumps are big. She will go through puberty and there will be adjustments but her technique (at least before this coach change) was sound and she has all the tools to make it through.

Scherbakova will almost certainly lose her quads because they're whipped and reliant on rotational speed much more than height or length.
Maybe good technique on the toe or the flip but that quad lutz was an abomination.
 

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I can't even remember ... I might be imagining this... but wasn't there some suggestion that Plushenko wanted Zagitova to train with him?

EDIT: https://www.tellerreport.com/sports/2019-12-15---plushenko-responded-to-tutberidze’s-charge-of-trying-to-lure-zagitova-.SyOE0Zc7RH.html

That's what I'm thinking of. I think Tutberidze accused Plushenko of trying to lure Zagitova to train with him. Then Plushenko denied it, but hinted that he had the resources to do so if he wished.

Plushenko said when they were on shows in Japan Zagi asked him to help in quads. That's all.
 

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That is my worry, that Plushenko's team won't pay any more attention to developing her skating skills and artistry than Eteri's did.

I have concerns about this as well. OTOH, there was little to no choreography in Trusova's programs this season--she looked like she was chasing quads and doing some hard transitions and that was it. And she is capable of performing--she skated her notorious Big Spender junior program with aplomb.

Will Plushy's team help in this regard? I'm not sure. Tarakanova had an interesting concept program about Frida Kahlo this season, but the actual choreography wasn't all that interesting. I can't recall, was that program made before or after she switched to Panova?
 

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Of course, it's impossible to get used to your athletes leavings. After all, while working together over time we become a family, constantly overcoming all arising obstacles on our way.
Good athletes and specialists will always be invited to other groups, and some may offer better conditions. It's everyone’s decision, how to respond to such offers. But our team is different from others, as we ourselves are educating and creating these talented athletes and specialists. Of course, we will never offer more attractive conditions, otherwise confidence will be lost. When working together, we always leave a part of our lives, part of ourselves.
 

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Honestly, Plushenko giving Trusova an Edvin Marton program would be an upgrade from the material given to her last season.

OTOH, there was little to no choreography in Trusova's programs this season--she looked like she was chasing quads and doing some hard transitions and that was it.

This. And changing the jump layout every over competition didn't help.
 

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It would be better if all involved didn't point the finger so much and just use the narrative of needing a different space, or cite personal reasons. Why hasn't Kostornaia left? Roganov has been training mostly babies, he will/may be a source of comfort for Trusova yes, but he'll need to prove himself all over again. During this crisis Eteri could only be with her daughter, there is nothing to do at this point but stay home and train as best you can as per the other girls, everybody will have to start from scratch. Plushenko has not impressed me much as a coach, but maybe this move will light a fire under him. We'll see.
probably not since he doesn't actually coach any of the skaters. :lol: She's basically going back to her original coach who taught her the jump technique she has.
 

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probably not since he doesn't actually coach any of the skaters. :lol: She's basically going back to her original coach who taught her the jump technique she has.

True. I think it's likely, however, that Plushenko would more likely to spend more time with and devote more resources to Trusova in comparison to someone like Ekaterina Ryabova, for example.
 

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Wow! Hope it works out! Though the real problem in Skating is that quads are banned in SP so she can’t maximize potential
 

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Of course, we will never offer more attractive conditions, otherwise confidence will be lost. When working together, we always leave a part of our lives, part of ourselves.


I think it's a little bit lost in translation (EDIT didn't realize this was just google translate :lol: ) that she means special conditions (i.e. "we won't give anyone preferential treatment"). I wonder if she is shading Rozanov ? (or Trusova...)
 
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That is my worry, that Plushenko's team won't pay any more attention to developing her skating skills and artistry than Eteri's did.

Well, we will see. At the academy the pupils has ballet, other dance lessons, and he works with an ex ice dancer https://www.instagram.com/mikhailov_d.s/ in his group.
Plus he can show the skating skills lesson, too. (But I know there is not a popular opinion, but I recommend these videos)
 

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I think it's a little bit lost in translation (EDIT didn't realize this was just google translate :lol: ) that she means special conditions (i.e. "we won't give anyone preferential treatment"). I wonder if she is shading Rozanov ? (or Trusova...)
Yep, that was automatic Instagram translation, I just edited few phrases a bit.
She says «заманчивые условия» and I’d translate it like “better conditions” like in terms of money and some other resources..
 

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Wow! Hope it works out! Though the real problem in Skating is that quads are banned in SP so she can’t maximize potential
Rules can change. It is just a matter of time. There were times when 3A was not allowed in the SP and now it is. At the moment only Russian senior ladies are landing quads in competition, so there is not much motivation from other countries to change the rules. However, I would not be surprised if in a year or two, when some Japanese girls start hitting quad and US skater Liu will be senior eligible, suddenly there will be push to have it allowed. When Russian, Japanese and US federation all want it, it will happen.
 

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Honestly, Plushenko giving Trusova an Edvin Marton program would be an upgrade from the material given to her last season.

None of Trusova's programs in Tutberidze camp have been worse than Ryabova's absolutely hideous free program (Edvin Marton Godfather mix :scream: ) this year... so.... no. That would be hard to top. This better not be the sort of programs Trusova gets in that camp
 

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And now we don’t have 3A but only 2A. Oh dear. If only Kanysheva did not get injured. She will be senior eligible this coming season, so she could have replaced that missing 1A and Tutberidze would still have 3A. You have to admit, 2A just doesn’t sound the same. :(

Do you think Tutberidze will post an advert ‘I am looking for a senior eligible female skater. Please apply if your first name start with the letter A. (I can teach you jumps, but I can’t change your name)’.;)
 

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And now we don’t have 3A but only 2A. Oh dear. If only Kanysheva did not get injured. She will be senior eligible this coming season, so she could have replaced that missing 1A and Tutberidze would still have 3A. You have to admit, 2A just doesn’t sound the same. :(

Do you think Tutberidze will post an advert ‘I am looking for a senior eligible female skater. Please apply if your first name start with the letter A. (I can teach you jumps, but I can’t change your name)’.;)

Anna said they aren't big fans of these monikers anyways ;)
 

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Valieva, Usacheva et al. are mainly coached by Rozanov no? Maybe a few more will follow him away.
And I always thought Danil prefers Kostornaya...
 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but so far coaches Volkov and Rozanov have defected to the Plushenko camp followed by student Trusova...it does seem like more students will be following those coaches if those students were already working with them. This seems far bigger than one student leaving.
 

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So is she saying that she will never match the conditions/arrangement offered by another coach? That's kind of smart. It'll spare her a lot of drama. She's saying stay...or go, you're call.
 
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Roganov has been training mostly babies, he will/may be a source of comfort for Trusova yes, but he'll need to prove himself all over again.

That’s not really a bad thing though considering the average age of the most successful Eteri student.
 

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