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@VIETgrlTerifa I had not been aware that a skill is co-named the Chow/Khorkina.
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That's funny.....a skill named after two athletes that couldn't be more opposite. One being so humble that her husband hadn't even seen her Olympic medals and the other one whose ego is so large I don't think that there is a stadium that has been built that is big enough for it....lol@VIETgrlTerifa I had not been aware that a skill is co-named the Chow/Khorkina.
Tatiana Gutsu's beam routine would still get a D-score of 5.7:
CoP 2017-20: Tatiana Gutsu BB 1992
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I think Miller should have won.
I read that the compulsory judging was infamously out-of-whack too even though I truly believe gymnastics could use compulsories today just to hammer in basics and form AND to give us variety in a competition so we're not seeing the same routine potentially 4 times.
And Michelle should have beaten Tara
1) Like how the skate order used to influence judging, like it did with Michelle and Tara
2) Ummm . . . it would just result in a prescribed routine that 30+ gymnasts do instead of a defacto routine that 25+ gymnasts do
I admire Gutsu's difficulty, but with the way that FX and VT went, I think Miller should have won. Plus, for the time, Miller was also doing routines that were more difficult that required. Just not in the way Gutsu's beam was. Miller didn't have the amplitude or natural power but she made it up in form and technical difficulty. I don't get the 1992 scoring system because I think the vast majority of gymnasts were doing routines that were technically out of 10.00 but they were only saving scores in the 9.9 range for a select few that the judges chose and there seemed to be an unwritten rule that gymnasts had to do routines far more difficult than the rules actually required to get consideration. I read that the compulsory judging was infamously out-of-whack too even though I truly believe gymnastics could use compulsories today just to hammer in basics and form AND to give us variety in a competition so we're not seeing the same routine potentially 4 times.
But given that now we know Vitaly Scherbo sexually assaulted Tatiana Gutsu I'm glad Tatiana got a moment of happiness. She's had a really rough life since.
Really? Wow. I had no idea. When did that come out? I used to love Vitaly's gymnastics.
Lydia Ivanova, a coach of the Soviet Union team at the time, has also questioned the "immodesty" of Gutsu and speculated that "good" athletes would be too tired to have "sexual urges" mid-competition.
"I do not want to talk in details about this and I think that this unseemly," she told 360tv.ru.
"Either she wants to earn money on this or get media attention, nothing more than that.
"It was unpleasant to suddenly hear about it, I’ve never seen any immodesty from this girl before.
"If there is a good, strong training session, what kind of sexual urges can there be?"
Antonina Koshel, an Olympic team champion at Munich 1972 and now deputy director of the Belarussian Gymnastics Federation, also protested Scherbo's innocence.
"I don’t believe that this could have happened, that Vitaly is capable of such a thing," she told R-Sport.
"He’s the kind of a guy who couldn’t have offended someone like that.
"I don’t believe that she could be silent for 27 years and didn’t share it with anyone.
"Especially since she was a 15-year-old girl - that she didn’t share it, didn’t cry on anyone’s shoulder."
That is so gross. What a disgusting man.Vitaly Scherbo didn't really cover himself in glory in this interview, and neither does his mom:
Scherbo: I’m used to getting what I want from women
While Vitaly Scherbo continues to stay silent regarding the rape allegations made by Tatyana Gutsu, some of his earlier interviews paint a picture of a person who does not respect women that much. …eng.gymnovosti.com
But back then since Kim Z. was considered a "contender" had she hit all her routines she might have been in the running for a gold.
Like for instance there's no way this beam routine:
Kim Zmeskal - Balance Beam - 1992 McDonalds American Cup
Score: 9.950. Kim Zmeskel (USA) March 7, 1992 - Orlando Arena - Orlando, Fla. Gymnasticswww.youtube.com
Uh yes ... there was fallout against her.
Soviet Olympic champion gymnast faces backlash after accusing ex-team-mate of sexual assault
Former Olympic champion Tatiana Gutsu is facing a backlash after accusing "monster" former team-mate and six-time Olympic champion Vitaly Scherbo of s...www.insidethegames.biz
Some choice quotes:
I can't.
Dominique Moceanu, "survivor spokeswoman extraordinaire", also said she was lying because she personally knows Rustam and he would NEVER allow Scherbo to do that.
Believe all survivors, my ass. Until a friend of hers is accused and then she back peddles.
I hope Terin tells all, and I don't care if it is out of spite.
Here is one of her beam routines:
Tatiana Lysenko - 1991 Worlds AA - Balance Beam
Tatiana Lysenko - 1991 Worlds AA - Balance Beamwww.youtube.com
She was a very inconsistent gymnast.
This inspired me to rewatch a few of her routines and I came across this interview from a few years ago. I had no idea she eventually became a lawyer! And it was interesting to hear more about how she got started and moved up the ranks.
A Conversation with Tatiana Lysenko - FloGymnastics
Anyone who was a gymnastics fan in the early ’90s knows the name Tatiana Lysenko. Crisp and confident, Lysenko combined artistry with cutting-edge acrobatiwww.flogymnastics.com