Royalty Thread #8.....A Pregnant Pause

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antmanb said:
When does a tiara stop being a tiara and become a crown? :COP: because they're all fairly huge and crown like.
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I think a tiara is a type of crown. But obviously there's also a lot of variety in terms of what a tiara can look like, from shape to materials: for instance, the kokoshnik worn by Princess Eugenie, this diamond bandeau owned by the Dutch royal family, the Swedish cameo tiara, and the Danish midnight tiara.

In other royal happenings, Crown Princess Mette Marit has announced that she has been diagnosed with chronic pulmonary fibrosis and will have the scale back her royal duties at times.

In happier news, Charlotte Casiraghi gave birth earlier this week - I believe that's grandchild number seven for Princess Caroline.
 
Meghan looks lovely here but erm, watched this appearance on the news and it was obvious she wasn’t wearing a bra!

Duchess of Sussex dazzles in third outfit of the day on royal tour


https://dailym.ai/2Pist62
 
SHARPIE said:
Meghan looks lovely here but erm, watched this appearance on the news and it was obvious she wasn’t wearing a bra!

Duchess of Sussex dazzles in third outfit of the day on royal tour


https://dailym.ai/2Pist62
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I disagree - I think the seaming is fooling you. Anne Hathaway had that problem with her dress the year she won the Oscar. It also looks like the material is "catching" on the bra at the top. Meghan isn't particularly bouncy in the video of her walking, either.
 
While in general I haven't minded her dress choices, I do wish she'd go for a bit of variety in the neckline. She has seemed to wear the same style in the majority of her dresses this tour, and IMO is doing her no favours as her chest and stomach are expanding. A small V-neck would probably make her boobs sigh with relief about now.
 
antmanb said:
When does a tiara stop being a tiara and become a crown? :COP: because they're all fairly huge and crown like.
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Essentially it depends on who is wearing it. Technically only monarchs wear crowns. Lesser royals and nobles wear coronets, which are usually less opulent and do not have arches on top going across them. Anyone can wear a tiara (including a monarch). Crowns have a closed circle base (as do coronets). Tiaras usually are half circles- more or less. Of course there are individual variations in design, and tiaras- which are meant to display wealth, can be very opulent indeed.
 
Japan’s Princess Ayako weds commoner Kei Moriya in ceremony at Meiji Shrine in Tokyo: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...oner-kei-moriya-ceremony-tokyos-meiji-shrine/
Princess Ayako, the youngest daughter of Emperor Akihito’s late cousin, wed commoner Kei Moriya at a ceremony Monday at Meiji Shrine in Tokyo.
The 28-year-old princess officially lost her royal status after her marriage to the 32-year-old employee of shipping firm Nippon Yusen K.K. was legally registered later in the day in the capital’s Minato Ward.
Arriving at the shrine in traditional court attire — a kimono robe and hakama pants — with her hair tied in the osuberakashi ancient style for noblewomen, the princess smiled at Moriya, who had been waiting for her in a morning suit.
The couple exchanged rings and read out their wedding oaths during the Shinto ceremony, which was attended by about 30 people including family members.
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With the departure of Princess Ayako, the number of Imperial family members falls to 18, with 13 of them female.
Under the Imperial House Law, women lose their royal title after marrying commoners. The Imperial family’s ever-shrinking number has raised concerns about the stability of succession and how to alleviate the burden of public duties on remaining members.
On Friday, Imperial Household Agency officials said the princess will retain honorary positions at two organizations even after leaving the Imperial family following her marriage, in a break with convention for the first time.
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ballettmaus said:
(If they're worried about succession, how about moving into the 21st century and changing the law and allowing women to retain their titles? :shuffle:)
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I wonder if this might have been considered had Prince Hisahito not been born. He's the only male grandson of the current emperor, the only person in the line of succession under the age of 50, and younger than his sisters and his cousin the Princess Toshi.
 
Louis is the most beautiful baby of all three kids. It's not a contest of course but I don't remember George or Charlotte being this pretty at 6 mos.
 
Not a fan of Kate's hairstyle. I think it makes her look older, at least, in the picture. But I think this may one of the best dresses Meghan has worn.
George looks like he's had a growth spurt.
 
So, today Kensington Palace finally officially confirmed where the Sussexes will be moving. And it's not the widely inaccurately reported Apt 1 at KP (which is the long time family home of the Gloucesters; the present Duke of Gloucester, Prince Richard, grew up in Apt 1 and raised his own family there). Some reports suggest that the Gloucesters still plan to vacate to smaller quarters since they are 'empty nesters.' However, that has not been confirmed.

https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1066256362399764480
https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1066274731060600833
https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews/status/1066100360199249920

It's not surprising that Meghan and Harry will be moving into Frogmore Cottage (near Frogmore House in Windsor Great Park). https://www.flickr.com/photos/34828070@N00/338674912/in/photostream/

https://courierjournal.org/entertai...-meghan-markle-prince-harry-new-home-86882424

The rumors have all been wrong with everything from York Cottage at Sandringham and Adelaide Cottage at Windsor having been gossiped. Us Weekly cites a palace source as saying the Sussexes "never enjoyed living in London," and that they are more comfortable residing in the country and raising their children in a country setting which offers more privacy.

Apparently construction has been underway for some time to reconvert Frogmore Cottage back to a single family residence. Formerly royal staffers and their families lived there. And it was previously the Windsor home of Queen Mary. Frogmore Cottage sits northwest of Frogmore House, with lovely views of Windsor Great Park. The mausoleum of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert is nearby on the Windsor grounds, in addition to other royal family burial sites. Frogmore Cottage is like a Georgian mansion -- reportedly with 10 bedrooms. Probably security measures will need to be taken, such as constructing a low wall for privacy, and rerouting footpaths for tourists who visit Frogmore House seasonally.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrit...and-duchess-meghan-to-move-to-windsor-estate/
https://www.eonline.com/news/990264...-harry-are-moving-away-from-kensington-palace

Nothing was mentioned in KP's announcement regarding whether the Sussexes will continue to rent their country retreat home in the Cotswolds near Soho Farmhouse.

The recent ABC documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSgRDDS8FRQ) on Meghan also carried the inaccurate report about M&H moving into KP Apt 1 which adjoins Apt 1A, where Kate & William reside. So perhaps it was decided to finally set the rumors straight. It seems reasonable that M&H are more comfortable living in the country, but will maintain office space at KP. It also makes sense that Harry & Meghan would want to lead their own lives apart from the Cambridges. Both Kate and Meghan have their own set of friends, and Kate has her own close knit family to confide in. So while I'm sure Kate and Meghan admire and respect each other, I doubt they are ever going to be best buddies. They already have respective close girlfriends, and their individual personalities are different. The fab four will surely continue to be working together under the umbrella of the Royal Foundation, and see each other often as part of all the public and intimate royal family events and traditions. But Harry is no longer the third wheel tagging along with W&K. He's his own man starting a new family of his own.

It's been reported too that the brothers' staffs will soon become separate as well. I doubt there's any serious tension involved, as has been gossiped. There might be normal tensions associated with a family being part of a huge public business. But their family relationships are on an even larger-than-life scale, because of omnipresent connections with the ancient history and traditions of the British monarchy.

In other news, Prince Charles teases about the possibility of an unconventional name for the Sussex baby: :lol:
https://www.eonline.com/news/990220...arry-and-meghan-markle-s-royal-baby-name-list
 
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aftershocks said:
It's been reported too that the brothers' staffs will soon become separate as well. I doubt there's any serious tension involved, as has been gossiped. There might be normal tensions associated with a family being part of a huge public business. But their family relationships are on an even larger-than-life scale, because of omnipresent connections with the ancient history and traditions of the British monarchy.
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It makes perfect sense to me. As the Queen continues to roll back on her duties and appearances, and now that Harry is no longer active military and also has a wife, they will likely continue to take on more and more, so it's asking a lot of staff to handle the increasing profiles and calendars of 4 people instead of 2 plus a sometimes extra.

I can also very much see that a new family wants a place of their own, no matter how close Harry remains to his brother and the rest of his family. Windsor is very close to London, so it's possible they'll see each other formally and informally just as much as ever.
 
Jenny said:
It makes perfect sense to me. As the Queen continues to roll back on her duties and appearances, and now that Harry is no longer active military and also has a wife, they will likely continue to take on more and more, so it's asking a lot of staff to handle the increasing profiles and calendars of 4 people instead of 2 plus a sometimes extra.

I can also very much see that a new family wants a place of their own, no matter how close Harry remains to his brother and the rest of his family. Windsor is very close to London, so it's possible they'll see each other formally and informally just as much as ever.
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And let's not forget that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge lived at Anmer House on the Sandringham estate for the first few years of their marriage in relative peace and quiet with Prince George and Princess Charlotte. They only moved back to Kensington Palace when William stopped working as an air ambulance pilot to take on more royal roles as QEII started to step back. I'm sure this move from Harry and Meghan is to allow them space to enjoy their new family.
 
Plus the Windsor setting is a lot more beautiful than Buckingham. Who wouldn't want to live in that gorgeous park?
 
I'm glad that they will be able to have an independent family life; while still fulfilling their responsibilities, which will only grow during the years to come.
 
taf2002 said:
Plus the Windsor setting is a lot more beautiful than Buckingham. Who wouldn't want to live in that gorgeous park?
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Apparently it is named because of the loud frog noises, and is directly in the path of Heathrow's flight line... so there's that.

I do think it is funny how many articles are making it sound like they will be in Frogmore House, not Frogmore Cottage. (Not that "cottage" is exactly a quaint place, but it isn't exactly grand in comparison.)

I find it strange that it sounds like they won't even be given an apartment to use as a pied a terre in London.
 
skatesindreams said:
If circumstances change; would that likely change, as well?
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Well, surely their living arrangements are not set in stone for all time.

But it seems that they will certainly have engagements that will require them to travel to London. It seems very strange they are not being given a small London base.

Frogmore Cottage sounds like they are being shuttled away.
 
There is not really any reason why the Duke and Duchess of Sussex should have a pied-à-terre in Central London. Frogmore Cottage is about 45 minutes' drive away from Kensington Palace. Prince Andrew and Prince Edward live in the vicinity and don't have second homes in London. By contrast, the Sandringham Estate is about three hours' drive away.

The discussion of whether William and Harry should be living close to each other reminds me of something I once read about Prince Charles' decision to buy Highgrove House, namely that he chose it because it was (1) not too far from Princess Anne's home at Gatcombe Park and (2) not too close to Princess Anne's home at Gatcombe Park. ;)
 
Skittl1321 said:
Well, surely their living arrangements are not set in stone for all time.

But it seems that they will certainly have engagements that will require them to travel to London. It seems very strange they are not being given a small London base.

Frogmore Cottage sounds like they are being shuttled away.
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It is a quick drive from Windsor into London. Should not be a problem for them.
 
Vagabond said:
There is not really any reason why the Duke and Duchess of Sussex should have a pied-à-terre in Central London. Frogmore Cottage is about 45 minutes' drive away from Kensington Palace. Prince Andrew and Prince Edward live in the vicinity and don't have second homes in London. By contrast, the Sandringham Estate is about three hours' drive away.
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Prince Edward and Prince Edward both have an apartment in Buckingham Palace. So they do have London residences.
 
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