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How do we manage to live in a skating world without mandatory spiral sequence?
The ISU had to do something. Those mandatory sequences were spiralling out of control
Sorry, totally disagree. Stop looking at the past through rose-colored glasses. 90% of spiral sequences during 6.0 were bad, and 99% of spiral during the first years of IJS were hideous.
If a skater has a fantastic spiral, they can showcase it as their CH sequence. No need to make a spiral sequence mandatory, and then have to sit through ten painful spirals, just to see a good one.
I've never taken figure skating lessons or trained to be a judge. Just somebody who turns on the TV when a skating competition is on. So I can't critique technique in terms of what does and does not deserve positive or negative GOE. So...as a "common fan" - I have to say I don't remember ever seeing an "awful" spiral sequence. If anyone would care to provide links to spiral sequences they consider to be "painful" to watch, I'd love to learn from you. And I really appreciate when someone mentions the time in the video of which they are referring to. I find that to be helpful, a time-saver and very considerate on the part of the poster.
I still wish the SP had spiral/move-in-the-field sequences because to me I like it when skaters are compared element by element in the SP. I hate that the line between SP and LP have been so blurred.
The days of spirals done by Michelle Kwan, Nicole Bobek, Sasha Cohen... Sigh... Those were the days. I wish the ISU would make a certain figure skating element or move mandatory on a rotating basis. So one year would be a spiral sequence, one year could be a split jump sequence...bringing back lost moves to spice things up.
P.S. I did a google search for split jumps and found this photo of Stephane Lambiel doing a "stag jump" (never heard of it) that looks glorious.
I've never taken figure skating lessons or trained to be a judge. Just somebody who turns on the TV when a skating competition is on. So I can't critique technique in terms of what does and does not deserve positive or negative GOE. So...as a "common fan" - I have to say I don't remember ever seeing an "awful" spiral sequence. If anyone would care to provide links to spiral sequences they consider to be "painful" to watch, I'd love to learn from you. And I really appreciate when someone mentions the time in the video of which they are referring to. I find that to be helpful, a time-saver and very considerate on the part of the poster.
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Sorry, totally disagree. Stop looking at the past through rose-colored glasses. 90% of spiral sequences during 6.0 were bad, and 99% of spiral during the first years of IJS were hideous.
If a skater has a fantastic spiral, they can showcase it as their CH sequence. No need to make a spiral sequence mandatory, and then have to sit through ten painful spirals, just to see a good one.
I'd like to see a spiral sequence as an optional alternative to a footwork sequence, but have the requirements for L4 be a lot more stringent than they were -ie both legs fully extended, maybe 75 degrees or more being a feature, clearly defined/held edges, etc- so that only skaters that can actually perform high quality ones will do so. I'm sure there are plenty of logistical reasons why this wouldn't work but this is my ideal world here
I think I mentioned both flexibility skills and edges in my post though?And I would rather see the features for higher levels in leveled spiral sequences, should they ever make a comeback, be based more on edge control and difficult edge-based skills than on flexibility. Or at least set up the rules so that it would be possible to earn level 3 or 4 with either approach or a mix of both rather than the greater emphasis on flexibility moves in the 2006-2010 rules.
Beauty of positions, of course, would be reflected in the GOEs and in the program components, especially Performance.
It is possible to have excellent extension without extreme flexibility. Paul Wylie comes to mind.