From Russia with love [#29]: Spring 2018 and beyond

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hanca said:
I don’t think Sotskova’s problem has been her choreography. There are skaters like Radionova who would manage to make Sotskova’s programs much more inspiring. I think Sotskova’s problems are that she concentrates too much on the technical side and hasn’t learned to project out to the audience. When someone is projecting, their brain doesn’t concentrate as much on the technique, and it may be that Sotskova thought that it is not worth the risk, or it may be that her past coach never made her do that. I used to think that projecting comes (or doesn’t come) naturally, depending whether someone has introverted or outgoing personality, but then I learned that it is a part of the choreography. A good coach or choreographer tells the skaters where to do even the tiniest moves with head, where to look (into audience), even where to smile. My coach used to scream at me when she couldn’t see my teeth accross the rink (when the program required smiling) and initially after the program the muscles around my mouth hurt because I wasn’t used to that much smiling. Like with make up, the smile on the ice must be much bigger than the usual smile (stage make up versus day wear make up). Until it suddenly becomes a part of the program and the skater doesn’t even know he/she is doing it.
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I still found her previous programs way more interesting and less empty.
 
Bigbird said:
Traditional, uninspiring choreography happened to Sotskova. I liked her material way better with her previous coach, much more interesting. To me right now she's just meh.
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Nope. Choreography is only part of it. Say what you want about Medvedeva's choreography and miming, you can tell the girl loves skating. She is all in. Plushenko, Yagudin, Slutskaya, Butyrskaya, even V&T are all examples of skaters that exuded passion even while executing questionable (and at times awful) choreography. Heck, Butyrskaya had so many issues, and was stiff as a board. But she skated with heart, and was loved for it. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe skating is just a job for Maria. It doesn't make her light up. Things that she loves and enjoys do. Maybe she'll become a fashion stylist or a travel blogger when her career is over. She seems like a lovely girl.
 
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Tinami Amori said:
Pogorlilaya is angry at the pop-singer Olga Buzova for using in her music video a short video clip of Pogorilya's fall in competition.
http://express-novosti.ru/get/21474...laya-vozmushchena-postupkom-olgi-buzovoj.html

The video clip is for a song called "champions" about hardship of sports and winning. @ 2:45 you can see Anna's fall..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd3uJb59azA
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You have to be a real skating fan to know it was Anna P... but still, ypu always better ask the concerned person before put her in a video!
 
Odd question: did some Russian skater skate to the music of 17 Mi utes in Spring? Butyrskaya maybe?
 
PRlady said:
Odd question: did some Russian skater skate to the music of 17 Mi utes in Spring? Butyrskaya maybe?
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Is that a well-known serie not only in the ex soviet bloc's countries???
 
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PRlady said:
No, but I saw a tweet about it with a trailer. Looks like a Russian James Bond....
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Ha-ha! Yesss, he looks like! :eek: His name was Stirlitz. I adored it! When the series was broadcast for the first time the whole country watched it! :2faced:
 
PRlady said:
No, but I saw a tweet about it with a trailer. Looks like a Russian James Bond....
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"17 Moments of Spring" and its character "Shtierlitz" is not even close to "James Bond".

It is a psychological and semi-accurate historical political spy drama (based on a book), about a double-agent, a soviet high-ranking spy posing as a German officer at the end of WWII in winter/spring 1945. The story is based (not quite accurately) on the US-German end of war negotiations, between high ranking Nazi SS official Karl Wolff and a US diplomat Allen Dulles, which did not include the Russian side or interests. Shtierlitz's role in the script is to interfere with the event and to prevent the deal being made without consideration of the Russian interests. While the plot and script of the film was intended to be patriotic, it included a lot "hidden subversive messages" against the Soviet regime during Stalin era, by drawing similarities between Nazis and Stalin and certain harsh methods of the earlier decades of Soviet system. The critique of the Soviet system was not stated directly, but through the words of the German officer, an anti-hero, yet of a respectable statue.
 
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Every year Sotnikova and Plushenko play the same con. Do they really think we are buying this? I wish she'd have a little more class and just be quiet or respectfully retire from competitive skating. Please and thank you.
 
Bigbird said:
Every year Sotnikova and Plushenko play the same con. Do they really think we are buying this? I wish she'd have a little more class and just be quiet or respectfully retire from competitive skating. Please and thank you.
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Unless you're a Russian tax-payer, from Moscow, it is none of your business what Russian skaters state as their future plans. They are not con-ing you..... and if the Russian posters on FSU did not provide you translations of what Plushenko and Sotnikova is stating to the Russian press, you would not know about it, nor it would affect you in any way.
 
Tinami Amori said:
Unless you're a Russian tax-payer, from Moscow, it is none of your business what Russian skaters state as their future plans. They are not con-ing you..... and if the Russian posters on FSU did not provide you translations of what Plushenko and Sotnikova is stating to the Russian press, you would not know about it, nor it would affect you in any way.
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Just so you know once you become a public figure your words enter the public domain and people are free to firm and hold an opinion if they so choose to. I chose and will gladly take that path with every opportunity that becomes available. Just so you know where I am coming from. Thank you very much. And just so you you know there are several platforms that translate Russian. I mean this is the 21st century. Is it not madam?
 
Bigbird said:
Just so you know once you become a public figure your words enter the public domain and people are free to firm and hold an opinion if they so choose to. I chose and will gladly take that path with every opportunity that becomes available. Just so you know where I am coming from. Thank you very much. And just so you you know there are several platforms that translate Russian. I mean this is the 21st century. Is it not madam?
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Opinion is fine. Claiming you were "conned" (cheated financially or materially) must be justified and proved, or have legal basis. Otherwise it is called "libel". If you're not a Russian tax payer, or a business investor paying Russian taxes, you can not be "conned/cheated" by skaters' claims to remain in sports (which is partially subsided by RF). Your hysterical claim "we're conned again" is baseless. You did not lose any "consideration" as a result of their claims or announcements.
 
Tinami Amori said:
Opinion is fine. Claiming you were "conned" (cheated financially or materially) must be justified and proved, or have legal basis. Otherwise it is called "libel". If you're not a Russian tax payer, or a business investor paying Russian taxes, you can not be "conned/cheated" by skaters' claims to remain in sports (which is partially subsided by RF). Your hysterical claim "we're conned again" is baseless. You did not lose any "consideration" as a result of their claims or announcements.
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If you understood the full meaning of the word and the context we wouldn't be having such a baseless conversation, tbh. Quite frankly I am not hear to have contentious, pointless conversations so if it's okay with you, I'm checking out of this volley, there are much more meaningful things I need to do. Have a good one.
 
Ka3sha said:
Liza and her 3 axel
https://instagram.com/p/BjFcZCjFvfA/
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I wonder if Liza will become a skater whose speciality is the post Olympics season. Her jumps back in 2014/2015 were glorious. I do wonder if her issues have just been psychological and the unrest in Russian ladies skating and the pressure of the Olympics being over has reinvigorated her confidence?
 
Doing one triple axel, on its own, outside program, does not mean that she will be able to pull it off together with the music and all other seven triples that she needs to land in the FS. Triple axel on its own is not enough if she is going to pop one or two of her other jumps. So I will have hope only after I see her doing it in her program.
 
Bigbird said:
If you understood the full meaning of the word and the context we wouldn't be having such a baseless conversation, tbh. Quite frankly I am not hear to have contentious, pointless conversations so if it's okay with you, I'm checking out of this volley, there are much more meaningful things I need to do. Have a good one.
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.... so let me guess, your next meaningful project must be suing the local Weather Forecast Stations for "conning you" out of a predicted sunny day... :D
 
Mad for Skating said:
@Tinami Amori @Bigbird Please, there's no need for a squabble over wording...can we get back to the skating? If you have a problem, take it to the private messages.
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Thank you. I moved on quite some time ago...

Speaking of skating are Pavel and Alla still skating together? There were rumours floating around that he or both of them were having tryouts with others?
 
Bigbird said:
Thank you. I moved on quite some time ago...

Speaking of skating are Pavel and Alla still skating together? There were rumours floating around that he or both of them were having tryouts with others?
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I think at this point it was likely just speculation, or if it occurred they decided to stay together in the end. Krylova talked about coaching them in a recent interview, there's a picture of them in dance class learning to tango, it seems that they are continuing to skate together for the present.
 
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