IOC's decision: (clean) Russian athletes can compete under neutral flag at PyeongChang Olympics

[levineismine]

That's all.

 

[MarieM]

I need him at the OG. Let's start another petition to send him in. I don't think we can save Ksenia considering all the McLaren report said, but he wasn't even in Sotchi.

 

[lmarie086]

What?? This is crazy!

 

[Prancer]

Stolbova and Bukin have never even been suspended for a doping violation so whatever "evidence" they have against them must be pretty thin. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Doesn't that go both ways? Until you know what the evidence is, you are assuming that the evidence is thin or that the decision is political.

 

[Rafter]

If she was doping in Sotchi will her silver medal get taken away?

 

[kwanfan1818]

Will the team gold?

If this sticks, does that mean the next Pair and Dance team from Russia will be at the Olympics?

 

[MarieM]

I think we should contact https://twitter.com/vfourneyron?lang=fr to ask her answers.

 

[Kateri]

 

[MarieM]

Either they do have REAL proofs and they publish it now, either they don't and it's unfair.
You can't destroy someone's career like that.

 

[Eeyora1]

Devastated especially for Bukin. But like everyone else I just want to know why?

 

[MarieM]

And BTW, that MacLaren report still seems wrong. It is considered proof when several athletes have already won against it.

 

[Karen-W]

Why is Bukin on the list? Are we sure it's Bukin and not Bobrova? She is the one with the WADA run-in.

 

[VGThuy]

I feel uneasy about this because how last minute this all seems. I think this whole process is like many months behind where it should have been. Was it because the investigation simply took that long and there was no possible way to do it earlier with the same thoroughness?

 

[caseyedwards]

The IOC is being very clear. The athletes must be banned so no one thinks they are doping.

“Not being included on the invitation list does not necessarily mean that an athlete has been doped – it should not automatically cast doubt on their integrity.”

Valerie Fourneyron invitations committee

 

[MarieM]

And that is clear HOW????? twitter account for Mrs Fourneyron is public knowledge.

 

[BittyBug]

The IOC is being very clear. The athletes must be banned so no one thinks they are doping.

“Not being included on the invitation list does not necessarily mean that an athlete has been doped – it should not automatically cast doubt on their integrity.”

Valerie Fourneyron invitations committee

If there is no doubt about their integrity then they should be invited.

 

[Vagabond]

Stolbova and Bukin have never even been suspended for a doping violation so whatever "evidence" they have against them must be pretty thin. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

I would suggest you start reading this thread from the beginning, as it is all explained there.

This isn't a criminal procedure. In this instance, as Russian athletes, they have to be proven clean to receive an invitation.

If there is no doubt about their integrity then they should be invited.

And if there is any doubt, they won't be.

 

[love_skate2011]

The IOC is being very clear. The athletes must be banned so no one thinks they are doping.

“Not being included on the invitation list does not necessarily mean that an athlete has been doped – it should not automatically cast doubt on their integrity.”

Valerie Fourneyron invitations committee

An Oxymoron statement ? and this is one of the trio of the invitations committee ?

 

[Vagabond]

I do think that the specific reasons why athletes are being removed from consideration should be published. And soon.

 

[caseyedwards]

I would suggest you start reading this thread from the beginning, as it is all explained there.

This isn't a criminal procedure. In this instance, as Russian athletes, they have to be proven clean to receive an invitation.

And if there is any doubt, they won't be.

But now the biggest doubt about an athlete is not being invited. They had the opportunity to run as many tests as they wanted!

 

[kittyjake5]

This is awful. Is there any recourse for the athletes if not
invited.

 

[MarieM]

That was wrong from the time said comission was created. Or IMO, you should uninvite nearly 100% of all the athletes going.

the process is unfair and unbalanced.

 

[RoseRed]

Keep in mind that the IOC is not officially making their decision until the 27th, so they likely won't offer any explanation until then. They've informed the Russians ahead of that date, and it's them who've shared the information. So we can't say that there is not evidence just because the IOC hasn't published it yet. I wouldn't expect them to put something out until the 27th.

 

[chapis]

I would suggest you start reading this thread from the beginning, as it is all explained there.

This isn't a criminal procedure. In this instance, as Russian athletes, they have to be proven clean to receive an invitation.

And if there is any doubt, they won't be.

but it is so wrong. So if suddenly I say that I watched to Nathan consuming drugs, they won´t invite him until someone make an investigation to prove his innocence?

 

[love_skate2011]

But now the biggest doubt about an athlete is not being invited. They had the opportunity to run as many tests as they wanted!

exactly, it doesnt matter how many tests you get outside, if you aren't being plucked randomly by the IOC. This is a real farce and all athletes denied with no explanation should sue this woman or IOC in court.

 

[love_skate2011]

but it is so wrong. So if suddenly I say that I watched to Nathan consuming drugs, they won´t invite him until someone make an investigation to prove his innocence?

yep, +one more he/she must be russian.

 

[chapis]

yep, +one more he/she must be russian.

Absolutely. You just imagine that instead of Bukin it was Nathan, if people can´t forget that Ashley did not get in the US team , I imagine this would be a scandal and Trump starting the 3rd world war.

 

[MarieM]

Because IT IS a scandal.

 

[MAXSwagg]

This is an outrage!

 

[skatfan]

exactly, it doesnt matter how many tests you get outside, if you aren't being plucked randomly by the IOC. This is a real farce and all athletes denied with no explanation should sue this woman or IOC in court.

The athletes do have appeal rights that they are using. Heartsick for Stolbova and Bukin, and so angry at the Russian government for leaving this state-sponsored doping unaddressed so that it got to this point.