Harvey Weinstein megaproducer and executive ousted over sexual harassment

[marbri]

Apparently Bjork just put Lars von Trier on blast on facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/bjork/posts/10155777444371460

"it was extremely clear to me when i walked into the actresses profession that my humiliation and role as a lesser sexually harassed being was the norm and set in stone with the director and a staff of dozens who enabled it and encouraged it . i became aware of that it is a universal thing that a director can touch and harass his actresses at will and the institution of film allows it."

I remember the stories about their relationship during that movie:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...res/love-hate-and-rows-with-bjork-697347.html
http://icelandreview.com/news/2010/10/10/lars-von-trier-played-expensive-joke-bjork

 

[VGThuy]

I remember the stories about their relationship during that movie:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...res/love-hate-and-rows-with-bjork-697347.html
http://icelandreview.com/news/2010/10/10/lars-von-trier-played-expensive-joke-bjork

My gosh those were quite the read to put it mildly. Explains a lot about his films.

 

[snoopy]

Courtney Love video advising people to avoid hotel rooms with Weinstein - 10 years ago.

https://www.redstate.com/prevaila/2...rning-weinstein-young-actresses-10-years-ago/

 

[PeterG]

If Ben Affleck falls, could he grab his brother Casey on his way down?

The Harvey Weinstein scandal has inspired a Ben Affleck scandal

What to Know About the Casey Affleck Oscar Controversy

 

[allezfred]

To Prancer: Thank you for your fast response. Sometimes the board indicates who is on-duty, you, Genevieve, or that Irish guy.

 

[JJH]

We know who you are. (ominous voice)

 

[PeterG]

To Prancer: Thank you for your fast response. Sometimes the board indicates who is on-duty, you, Genevieve, or that Irish guy.

Ronan Keating is on FSU?!?!

 

[snowbird]

A neologism for you. Harveywood. Saw it used at Breitbart.
Hope it sticks in your head.

 

[ballettmaus]

I'm confused. Hillary Clinton was supposed to know and speak out but not Weinstein's wife?
I find it sad that even the MSM is bothering with this but with an attitude like that, things will never get better. This isn't about Hillary Clinton, and no one should make it about her and the MSM should not jump on that ship. Instead, they should focus on Weinstein and his actions and his victims and the attitude in our society that makes it possible for someone like Weinstein to get away with it for so long.

 

[oleada]

There was a discussion as to why victims didn't speak up before, and this article reminded me of it.

Study finds 75 percent of workplace harassment victims experience retaliation

I can't speak of sexual harassment (which I have experienced, but never reported) but my former psychotic boss would always retaliate whenever we reported her for whatever terrible thing she did. And she got her hand slapped but nothing ever happened and she would always take it out on whoever she suspected reported her.

 

[overedge]

Not to mention that most HR departments are firmly on the side of management and don't want to make waves. So the part of the organization that is supposed to support the employee probably will do anything but.

 

[becca]

If people want to blame Hillary why not look at the excusing of her husband. How is she to know about Harvey?

 

[Japanfan]

If people want to blame Hillary why not look at the excusing of her husband. How is she to know about Harvey?

To be fair, Hillary and Bill may have had an agreement that he or both of them could have extra-marital affairs. Their marriage was most likely a political one, or one that was political in part. Given that she was looking to her own political career, staying with him and defending him may have been the best option.

Even so I'm sure she was plenty pissed that he got caught. I personally think the story that she threw a vase at him, or something like a vase, may have been fabricated and reflect the stereotype of the hysterical female. But were it true, such an action is completely understandable.

 

[becca]

To be fair, Hillary and Bill may have had an agreement that he or both of them could have extra-marital affairs. Their marriage was most likely a political one, or one that was political in part. Given that she was looking to her own political career, staying with him and defending him may have been the best option.

Even so I'm sure she was plenty pissed that he got caught. I personally think the story that she threw a vase at him, or something like a vase, may have been fabricated and reflect the stereotype of the hysterical female. But were it true, such an action is completely understandable.

Bill was being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women.

 

[VGThuy]

Reese Witherspoon came out saying she was sexually harassed by a director when she was 16:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/eleanorbat...ly-assaulted?utm_term=.vpEXXQMGbR#.ccWzzb9WdX

She said that she feels guilty that she didn't come out sooner, but that the brave women who have come forward made her feel less alone and encouraged to share her own story.

 

[smurfy]

Not to mention that most HR departments are firmly on the side of management and don't want to make waves. So the part of the organization that is supposed to support the employee probably will do anything but.

Good point.
I saw Gretchen Carlson on CBS this morning. She was saying in the workplace - HR is part of the problem and an outside Ombudsman/External party should be brought in. I think that is a great idea

 

[Lucy25]

So, please feel free to point out where I might have missed this (I probably did), but did Georgina Chapman not know her husband was like this? That is one of the most baffling things about this to me. Surely she heard the jokes; was she in denial? Was it ok with her as long as everyone else winked at it???

 

[becca]

The whole scenario made me think of an recent incident I let slide. Where my Uber driver kept on trying to get me to go out with him. I decided to send a note to Uber about it.

 

[VGThuy]

The whole scenario made me think of an recent incident I let slide. Where my Uber driver kept on trying to get me to go out with him. I decided to send a note to Uber about it.

I'm sorry you had to go through that. Unfortunate that it's so common that we often let things like this slide all of the time. I know some may think that's not a big deal, but being continually hounded in this manner really is a big deal.

 

[Tinami Amori]

So, please feel free to point out where I might have missed this (I probably did), but did Georgina Chapman not know her husband was like this? That is one of the most baffling things about this to me. Surely she heard the jokes; was she in denial? Was it ok with her as long as everyone else winked at it???

Georgina Chapman certainly knew that her husband bullied several female celebrities into wearing her dresses at public events, because that was not a secret either....

http://www.elleuk.com/fashion/celeb...instein-felicity-huffman-marchesa-red-carpet/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...stein-forced-Sienna-Miller-wear-Marchesa.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...a-fashion-label-actresses-order-a7995011.html

I am pretty sure Georgina Chapman entered into this marriage with a purpose, knowing to one degree or another who her husband is as a person. She figured she'll make a use of his influences.

 

[FiveRinger]

Georgina Chapman certainly knew that her husband bullied several female celebrities into wearing her dresses at public events, because that was not a secret either....
http://www.elleuk.com/fashion/celeb...instein-felicity-huffman-marchesa-red-carpet/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...stein-forced-Sienna-Miller-wear-Marchesa.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...a-fashion-label-actresses-order-a7995011.html

I am pretty sure Georgina Chapman entered into this marriage with a purpose, knowing to one degree or another who her husband is as a person. She figured she'll make a use of his influences.

So are you saying that his accusers had a motive also? I mean, if this was a well known secret, according to your logic, that means that the accusers should have expected to be hit on, harassed, and we're complicit. Those are all false equivalencies. Your theory is flawed.

 

[Tinami Amori]

So are you saying that his accusers had a motive also? I mean, if this was a well known secret, according to your logic, that means that the accusers should have expected to be hit on, harassed, and we're complicit. Those are all false equivalencies. Your theory is flawed.

What the heck are you talking about?

 

[FiveRinger]

What the heck are you talking about?

Reread your last statement about Chapman's reason for marrying. You said she had a purpose, she knew about who and what her husband was. I responded to that. I am asking you a question. What are you talking about?

 

[screech]

So, please feel free to point out where I might have missed this (I probably did), but did Georgina Chapman not know her husband was like this? That is one of the most baffling things about this to me. Surely she heard the jokes; was she in denial? Was it ok with her as long as everyone else winked at it???

At the very least, she knew he was sleeping with other women, since Heather Graham's statement included Harvey telling her that he and his wife had an agreement.

The optimistic side of me likes to think that she knew he was sleeping with other women, and took the comments just as his sleeping around being common knowledge.
The pessimistic (hate to say realistic) side of me says that she had to have known there was more too it, what with the settlements being made. Unless he had a separate bank account (not unheard of), from which he paid people off, who were then made to keep quiet.

I'm just thinking of how people disregarded Courtney Love's comments a decade ago, because of her drug problems.
Though she wasn't 'supposed' to say anything, she did. To that point she'd shown that she's a really good actress (including a Golden Globe nomination for best actress), but looking at her filmography, she has nothing between 2005 and this year. I wouldn't be surprised if she was blacklisted for her comments.

People might not respect Courtney (usually the lack of respect is due to some peoples beliefs she was involved in her husband's death), but you have to give her credit for daring to speak out when nobody else was.

 

[Tinami Amori]

Reread your last statement about Chapman's reason for marrying. You said she had a purpose, she knew about who and what her husband was. I responded to that. I am asking you a question. What are you talking about?

I am talking about what i am talking about - G. Chapman and that HW bullied celebrities into wearing her dresses.. But how and why you linked "the accusers of HW" to my comments about his wife is only for you to know.

 

[MsZem]

At the very least, she knew he was sleeping with other women, since Heather Graham's statement included Harvey telling her that he and his wife had an agreement.

Heather Graham was speaking about Weinstein's first wife, not about Chapman. Also, not every man who claims that he and his wife have an "agreement" is telling the truth.

Chapman's brand may not survive this, and unless she was complicit in her husband's actions, I think that's unfortunate. He is the sexual abuser, and the focus should be on him, not on what women knew.

 

[Japanfan]

Bill was being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women.

If they had a deal, I'm sure that wasn't part of it. Hillary was undoubtedly super pissed at him - there were stories about that, SFAIK, as I didn't follow the events at the time.

I mentioned that they might have had a deal because it would explain to a certain extent why she stayed with him. Him having affairs with other women may have been part of it (harassment excluded).

 

[skatesindreams]

From Molly Ringwald:
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/c...pJobID=1261494800&spReportId=MTI2MTQ5NDgwMAS2

 

[MsZem]

I was just coming to post that Molly Ringwald article - it's titled All the Other Harveys. I had no idea that Ringwald was such a good writer. Given the challenges of dealing with teenage super-stardom as well as the sexual harassment that she describes, I'm glad that she's in a good place and has been able to do things on her terms.

 

[MacMadame]

I mentioned that they might have had a deal because it would explain to a certain extent why she stayed with him. Him having affairs with other women may have been part of it (harassment excluded).

I'd be surprised if they had an actual deal. She-Clinton's behavior and public statements all line up with a woman in love with her guy and willing to do what it takes to keep the relationship going. She may have had an inkling or even known that he cheated on her but I doubt she was okay with it or that there was some formal deal.

I'm glad they went to counseling as it seems to have improve their marriage and they both seem much happier in it.