2017-2018 Program Music and Choreographers

Oh boyangman... my heart bursts to hear the star wars cantina music..... I will love this program, no matter what. You warmed me to you with spidey, but I am now on the jin side of the force.

The cantina music is from a new hope and the finale is also from a new hope. Some of my favourite cuts from star wars.
 
clairecloutier said:
Sui/Han FS: Turandot https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=iffnh0pyG-Y
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I'm sure this program will be great by the Olympics, but I feel like they're missing an opportunity in one of their programs to show off that cool, easy, young, modern vibe that Blues for Klook had last year. BFK seemed so natural to them.

I would personally also be a little intimidated to be a Chinese pairs skater performing to Turandot. There's a reason you don't see American ladies skating to Lyra Angelica, British ice dancers doing Bolero, etc...
 
Sui/Han are so much more fun than many pairs teams. A lot of pairs ladies come off as really intense and focused on the ice, but Sui can really bring that fun factor, so I think that's what sets them apart. I still remember their western and city lights programs from early in their careers because of their charisma. I really wish they'd use that advantage instead of Turandot.

(In other news, the opera is doing Turandot this season so I was wondering if I should see it and I realized the amount of warhorse it is has given me Stockholm syndrome. Please stop.)
 
With Sui/Han's LP, this is not only the season of normalizing repeats but a season that will introduce reviving old classic routines from other skaters. Between this and many other things, one has to love the state of modern day skating where no real creativity is needed.
 
I'm not versed into technical aspects of building a pairs program but Sui/Han's FD had me wondering how it works because right now it looks like a shell of a program with only a bunch of elements on after the other. I couldn't see any choreographic movement linking those elements. Are they stabilizing their elements first and then working on linking them ? Isn't it late to do that ? Or was it a bad day and they decided to skate a lighter version of their FD ? It was really underwhelming. Plus this music is absolutely not them. Again, I hope I'm wrong and I will have to do a mea culpa by the end of GP. Now I'm waiting for Savchenko/Massot's programs even more eagerly.
 
OUCH! Wish I had not watched that. I think the music is fine.........could even be great for them. But where did Sui's jumps go? Now I have to add her to my worry list.
 
Yikes on all those falls for Boyang but I do like the program and think it fits him.

Sui and Han's LP is quite disappointing to be honest. I'm sure it will improve over the season but their programs last season felt special to me and this just doesn't, especially compared to what Shen and Zhao did with Turandot.
 
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@Taso Are you talking about Yu/Zhang's music or Boyang Jin's? The beginning of Boyang's program is definitely Mars from the Planets and the rest Star Wars.
 
chapis said:
that's what happens when you hire a Canadian choreographer, it's a trap so S/H won´t stand out over D/R :p :sekret:
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I don't understand what they paid Lori for with that LP honestly. Most of it was just skating element to element and with what little choreography there was was just an inferior copy to Lee Ann Miller's work for Shen/Zhao. If they were going to do a 6.0 program, then the choreography had better be great. This was not. I know it's early but I find the lack of integrity here to be glaring.

I feel that now S/H are OGM contenders and reigning World champs, the Chinese Fed decided to go super safe and not worry about making a statement but rather make sure their TES is in order and hope Turandot's music would carry them over PCS-wise. They took everything that made S/H unique, compelling, and special and filtered them into generic Chinese pairs skaters. S/H can salvage it with their emotion matching to Turandot but it doesn't take away the fact that very little thought was put into the conception of this program. Sure they're not alone with that, I just expected more from this team and more care from their handlers. Who knows? Maybe it's to make Zhang look better in comparison.
 
VIETgrlTerifa said:
I don't understand what they paid Lori for with that LP honestly. Most of it was just skating element to element and with what little choreography there was was just an inferior copy to Lee Ann Miller's work for Shen/Zhao. If they were going to do a 6.0 program, then the choreography had better be compelling. This was not. I know it's early but I find the lack of integrity here to be glaring.

I feel that now S/H are OGM contenders and reigning World champs, the Chinese Fed decided to go super safe and not worry about making a statement but rather make sure their TES is in order and hope Turandot's music would carry them over PCS-wise.
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it's time to move on to plan B and return to last season's programs, they just skated 2 times, I think.
 
chapis said:
it's time to move on to plan B and return to last season's programs, they just skated 2 times, I think.
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I agree. I wasn't the biggest fan of "Bridge Over Troubled Water" and I don't like the idea of repeat programs, but at least repeat your own program if you're going to repeat a program. Plus, BOTW will look young, fresh, and modern and the Olympic audience may appreciate that and it'll do a lot for their perception to newcomer with the idea that an Olympic gold medal can be won by skating to a John Legend cover of a Simon/Garfunkel song.
 
chapis said:
Peng/Jin LP is lovely, this music suit them so well :swoon:
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I promise this is my last comment on the Chinese pairs for a while, but there was an interview done by Lori some weeks ago and she had the most positive things to say about working with Peng/Jin while her comments on S/H seemed more obligatory without saying much. She made almost no comments on Yu/Zhang. Maybe she was given much more freedom with P/J (the forgotten team in the way of Zhang to the Chinese Fed) while the Chinese Fed already had an idea and direction for S/H and Y/Z and she wasn't able to work with them the way she was with P/J. Or maybe P/J simply motivated her in a way the others did not this time around.
 
^^ Yes, I thought of those comments immediately upon seeing the programs.

Personally I think it's been evident for a while that Cheng Peng inspires good work from Lori. Although many people never liked Peng/Zhang as a team, they actually had some great & interesting programs together. Now this continues with Peng/Jin. I think both their programs look promising, especially Butterfly Lovers.

Lori seemed inspired too by Sui/Han the last couple years. I'm going to withhold judgment on S/H's new programs until we see them again ... They're obviously not in their best condition yet, and that affects the impression as well.
 
Boyang's first cut is NOT Star Wars... I own them all. It is the same thing usova/zhulin skated to years ago.
 
meggonzo said:
@Taso Are you talking about Yu/Zhang's music or Boyang Jin's? The beginning of Boyang's program is definitely Mars from the Planets and the rest Star Wars.
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I thought Taso was talking about Yu/Zhang since the post that was quoted was about Y/Z, which does indeed sound like Star Wars and not the Planets (although I've never seen a Star Wars movie). Boyang uses Mars as his first piece which is one of the pieces Satoko used last season.

ETA: from Goldenskate

dorispulaski said:
Yu & Zhang FS above is a Star Wars medley

Jyn Erso & Hope Suite, Star Wars: Princess Leia, and Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
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Re: The Star Wars music conundrum, I guess I will have to check out the program for myself because "confused me you have - understand you I do not.” :D
 
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