Yuzuru Hanyu Cheer Thread

Cachoo said:
The gala reminded me why he is considered brilliant on the ice.
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Fairuza said:
It was the most beautiful performance of the night.
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Truly. The skating and performance quality at the exhibition was surprisingly high (I think usually the skaters are too exhausted to skate well but there were many excellent performances here), yet Hanyu still stood out for his effortless skating and sensitivity to the music. He was magical.
 
BittyBug said:
Truly. The skating and performance quality at the exhibition was surprisingly high (I think usually the skaters are too exhausted to skate well but there were many excellent performances here), yet Hanyu still stood out for his effortless skating and sensitivity to the music. He was magical.
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I can't stop watching it. I just wish I had a comment-free video of it...
 
To be honest, I am worried for Yuzuru. All season he seemed to be going upward artistically and staying consistent in jumps until the crash at this year's worlds LP. He is my favorite skater among men so I worry about him. I hope he will be healthy enough to come back next year and win the world title. He needs it before going to the 2018 Olympics.
 
Vash01 said:
To be honest, I am worried for Yuzuru. All season he seemed to be going upward artistically and staying consistent in jumps until the crash at this year's worlds LP. He is my favorite skater among men so I worry about him. I hope he will be healthy enough to come back next year and win the world title. He needs it before going to the 2018 Olympics.
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Well I am still getting over from Worlds LP. I expected just somewhat easy walk for title for him, and that was such a hammer moment for him. Moment like that would propably broke mentaly many athletes, but I think he will be fine. I guess he will put 4Lo in next season.
Orser talked that he saw Hanyu getting nervous before competition, but I can't help but think has he tried to do something to put him in right mindset :confused:
 
Seimei from Golden Skate forum said this, which makes me kind of worried:
"...I read a sentence on Sportiva magazine. His injury at January was very serious to consider withdraw to world. His health after National is always not good. May be he has worked off too much to half season.. And next season's schedule is also crazy.. <nhk to GPF to national> they are all biweekly.. so I want he won't go nhk at least like 14 season, but very unlikely."
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Maybe Yuzuru should quit GP series? :wuzrobbed:wuzrobbed:wuzrobbed I want to see him more but I want him to be healthy more. I hope he won't do many ice shows this summer.
 
Other comments about Yuzuru's injury
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Original posted by daisy616
"....the magazine is Sportiva and the Amazon link is http://goo.gl/fMXhrW
I read that article and I was also shocked to know the injury was that bad. According to Ms.Shirota, his left leg was swollen very badly after Yuzu performed the short program."
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Original posted by seimei:
"I saw the information using google translate for reading review of readers. I have to correct word not withdraw but unclearity to compete. It seems that he had to each three days rest after one day practice at Toronto. And his legs were swollen too. Of course, he didn't use injury for excuse himself, it's inevitable to injury for top male skaters. But personally I think his schedule from nhk to national was not ideal.. but it's difficult to change schedule, circumstance. I don't think he will not skip GPs, he has always developed and adapted to his programs through first half season. And pcs is also influenced by participation many competition. I just have a hope he'll skip national and participate 4cc but skipping national is very unlikely to him and JSF."
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Original posted by daisy616
:....Ms. Shirota also says "Perhaps we should have made him skip the practice during the competition (for a rest)."
 
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Original post by mikaboo from Goldenskate forum
http://www.daily.co.jp/newsflash/general/2016/04/27/0009030417.shtml
Noriko Shirota attended today's JSF awards celebration and said that Yuzuru will start training around June.
Preparation for new programs that were scheduled in early May will be postponed until after he starts training again. (so a month later than usual according to the article below)
After Worlds, he's been prioritizing resting and hasn't put his skating boots on. He's been stretching and training the upper body.
http://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/1638473.html[/url]
According to this article, Ms. Shirota also said that this (injury?) shouldn't affect him next season.
 
I am glad that Yuzu will be able to have some time to rest himself both physically and mentally.
I can only imagine all the pressure on his shoulders especially after the GPF. I am hoping that in Toronto he will be able to have a more low key existence then back in Japan.
While we wait for new tidbits coming forth from his camp on new music and programs... I finally uploaded my video of Yuzu during the Men's Free Skate warm-up. Just a quick little min, but every second of Yuzu is golden to me. I was ecstatic to finally be able to see him skate in person.
http://youtu.be/C_95VWH10_Q
 
Russian figure skater blogger Yulena has just published another article comparing transitions, linking footwork and difficult steps of all top men in their free skate (LP) at Boston WC (she does not count the step sequences). A summary on tumblr:
http://chibura.tumblr.com/post/143622025520/here-the-russian-figure-skater-blogger-yulena

The author says Yuzuru is the only skater who in both programs does quads and axels with different entries, in both SP and LP. As in the LP, Yuzuru jumps with combination entries, where he uses variety of entries with difficulty. These entries are risky but they contribute to the program’s difficulty and they look great as a whole....

So Yuzuru only has 12 crossovers in his entire free skate. And he has the most amount of difficult moves as well. In general, Yuzuru uses spread eagle, besti squat, ina bauer, circle, half loop and half axels... No one else does it the same as Yuzuru.
 
Whole translation of the analysis of top men from the Russian article written by blogger Yulena. This article analyses the difficulty of short program of top seven men at World Championship 2016. http://chibura.tumblr.com/post/143787559605/my-friend-marina-has-just-translated-the-whole
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Some quote about Yuzuru:
Yuzuru Hanyu in his SP demonstrates the best variety of transitions. The most amount of one footed transitions, minimum running steps and crossovers. Transitions are well distributed throughout entire program. Besides skating transitions he uses transitions of figure skating elements such as spread eagles, Bauers and half jumps”, the variety of transitions are very good. Execution of transitional steps and elements are followed by hand/body movements and are accompanied with the change of movements, balancing difficult transitions but the easy steps are executed together with hand and body movements – the difficulty of transitions is very good. Transitions are well incorporated in the program (both into elements and also difficult entries /exits) All three jumping elements Yuzuru is executing with difficult entries, 2 jumps from 3 has the difficult exit as well, the difficulty of transitions are very good. The quality of executing transitions is very good, hand movements, whole upper body and head is matching the music.
 
Full translation of the Russian article analyses the difficulty of FREE program of top men at World Championship 2016.
http://chibura.tumblr.com/post/144143945205/full-translation-of-the-russian-article-analyses

Some parts about Yuzuru:
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From the diagram Yuzuru Hanyu demonstrates the best variety of transitions in the long program, along with many one footed skating transitions (three turns) as well using difficult turns (4 rockers and 2 counters). He uses the least quantity of crossovers, enough steps with good variety of different linking elements (2 Besties, 2 spread eagles, 2 Bauers, Pivot, loop and half axel). The variety of transitions is very good. Patrick Chan in his LP demonstrates enough quantity of one footed transitions (three turns), only 2 difficult ones (rocker and counter) small amount of crossovers. He is using all instruments of figure skating transitions (Besti, Spread eagle, 2 Lunges, Spiral, Waltz jump and 3 Hops ) the variety of transitions are very good.
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The difficulty of transitions in Yuzuru Hanyu’s program is very good, skating transitions (steps) are changing with one footed transitions and other linking elements, accompanied by head, hands and body movements, changing the direction of movement all the time. Yuzuru executes transition in between elements: posing from the body movement transitions, 2 three turns with arms aloft, Mohawk, Besti on the outside edges and counter. The difficulty of the transitions is very good. All 8 jumping elements are executed from difficult and various entries, besides all these, 3F has difficult exit as well (change of edge, counter, three turn). Entries on the jumping elements differ and they are combined (with steps he is using one footed transitions and linking elements). For example entry on loop combo is (spread eagle-Bauer-three turn-three turn-three turn- change of edge) or a 4T entry (Besti-Chasse-Chotcaw-Three turn). Yuzuru executes 3A3T combo from combined entry which includes linking elements, 2 one footed transitions and 2 steps: Spread eagle, Rocker, three turn, Mohawk, Chasse). The quality of execution is very good. Hand, body, torso and head movements are matching the music.
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Evaluating all the criteria’s for Transition/Linking footwork PCS (difficulty of transitions before element and between them, frequency , difficulty and variety) the most difficult program is executed by Yuzuru Hanyu, then comes Javier Fernandez and Patrick Chan.

Interesting note: After analyzing transitions in both, short and long programs: Yuzuru Hanyu is the only skater who executed all types of jumps, including quads and triple axels with different entries in both SP and LP. In both programs Yuzuru Hanyu jumped 4S, 4T and 3A from different and combined entries, along with high difficulty from various transitions before and in between all elements. This path is more risky but on the good side program looks as the one whole and jumping elements are looking like the part of choreography. This is all, thanks for the attention.
 
Meoima said:
Evaluating all the criteria’s for Transition/Linking footwork PCS (difficulty of transitions before element and between them, frequency , difficulty and variety) the most difficult program is executed by Yuzuru Hanyu, then comes Javier Fernandez and Patrick Chan.
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While I definitely think Hanyu at his best is the best skater in the world today, I disagree on this part. In terms of linking footwork and in between moves, the most difficult programs are clearly Chan's. Hanyu would be up there. Fernandez as great as he is, is not anywhere near the top in choreographic difficult. He mostly just strokes, poses, and preens between elements, which is fine since he is still such an amazing performer he makes it work, especialy when combined with such great jumps.
 
usova94gold said:
While I definitely think Hanyu at his best is the best skater in the world today, I disagree on this part. In terms of linking footwork and in between moves, the most difficult programs are clearly Chan's. Hanyu would be up there. Fernandez as great as he is, is not anywhere near the top in choreographic difficult. He mostly just strokes, poses, and preens between elements, which is fine since he is still such an amazing performer he makes it work, especialy when combined with such great jumps.
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I think you misunderstood something. Hanyu uses transitions in and out of ALL his jumps including quads and 3A's, all with diffrent entries in both SP and LP. Patrick doesn't use transitions to all of his jumps, definitely not to quads and 3A
Patrick is using transitions but not to most difficult jumps
 
usova94gold said:
While I definitely think Hanyu at his best is the best skater in the world today, I disagree on this part. In terms of linking footwork and in between moves, the most difficult programs are clearly Chan's. Hanyu would be up there. Fernandez as great as he is, is not anywhere near the top in choreographic difficult.
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Don't you mind looking at the tables to see how many transitions and turns each of them did? Both Yuzuru and Patrick did 20 three tuns, but Yuzuru had 4 rockers and 2 counters, while Patrick did 1 rocker and 1 counter. Yuzuru did 12 crossovers and Patrick did 16. Skating movement transitions Yuzuru did 7 and Patrick did 5. Now tell me who has more choreographic difficulty?
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http://chibura.tumblr.com/post/144143945205/full-translation-of-the-russian-article-analyses
From the diagram Yuzuru Hanyu demonstrates the best variety of transitions in the long program, along with many one footed skating transitions (three turns) as well using difficult turns (4 rockers and 2 counters). He uses the least quantity of crossovers, enough steps with good variety of different linking elements (2 Besties, 2 spread eagles, 2 Bauers, Pivot, loop and half axel). The variety of transitions is very good. Patrick Chan in his LP demonstrates enough quantity of one footed transitions (three turns), only 2 difficult ones (rocker and counter) small amount of crossovers. He is using all instruments of figure skating transitions (Besti, Spread eagle, 2 Lunges, Spiral, Waltz jump and 3 Hops ) the variety of transitions are very good.
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They're all great, but in this time and occasion, Yuzuru did more difficult moves than Patrick, it's a fact.
 
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Meoima said:
Don't you mind looking at the tables to see how many transitions and turns each of them did? Both Yuzuru and Patrick did 20 three tuns, but Yuzuru had 4 rockers and 2 counters, while Patrick did 1 rocker and 1 counter. Yuzuru did 12 crossovers and Patrick did 16. Skating movement transitions Yuzuru did 7 and Patrick did 5. Now tell me who has more choreographic difficulty?
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http://chibura.tumblr.com/post/144143945205/full-translation-of-the-russian-article-analyses
From the diagram Yuzuru Hanyu demonstrates the best variety of transitions in the long program, along with many one footed skating transitions (three turns) as well using difficult turns (4 rockers and 2 counters). He uses the least quantity of crossovers, enough steps with good variety of different linking elements (2 Besties, 2 spread eagles, 2 Bauers, Pivot, loop and half axel). The variety of transitions is very good. Patrick Chan in his LP demonstrates enough quantity of one footed transitions (three turns), only 2 difficult ones (rocker and counter) small amount of crossovers. He is using all instruments of figure skating transitions (Besti, Spread eagle, 2 Lunges, Spiral, Waltz jump and 3 Hops ) the variety of transitions are very good.
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They're all great, but in this time and occasion, Yuzuru did more difficult moves than Patrick, it's a fact.
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Fine but what about Fernandez. I love Javier and he fully deserved his world title this year. However he does not have complex choregraphy between the elements at all. All he does is stroke, pose, and preen, although he performs the heck out of his programs, and is very fast and smooth. The person you quoted said Fernandez had more difficult choregraphy than Chan too, which is crazy.
 
usova94gold said:
Fine but what about Fernandez. I love Javier and he fully deserved his world title this year. However he does not have complex choregraphy between the elements at all. All he does is stroke, pose, and preen, although he performs the heck out of his programs, and is very fast and smooth. The person you quoted said Fernandez had more difficult choregraphy than Chan too, which is crazy.
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Javi has more non-listed transitions than Yuzuru and Patrick (if you look at the table), but the blogger also explained his transitions are easy on 2 foot, that's why his program is about the same as Patrick (she explained very well in her analysis) and less difficult than Yuzuru's program. Again, you should read the whole analysis careful. These transitions were counted, it's justified because it is quantifiable.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjxMgmNEBGI
CCTV has realised Yuzu's interview in Boston.

Translation by Jessie Kok @YHIFG FB

Q1: How are you feeling now after the competition?
Yuzu: Regrettable. (or using what Yuzu’s usually says in English will be “really regret my performance”) But at the same time I feel good to be skating with so much support from the audience. Although I feel regrettable, I am glad to have skated SEIMEI in front of the audience.

Q2: You did great in SP but your FS’ performance was a surprise to all. What would you think is the reason?
Yuzu: Well, I don’t think my condition is not good. It could be that I’m nervous and at the same time excited, so it caused my emotions to fluctuate. Although it will be another one tough/hard year ahead, I will transform this regret to hard work towards the next season.

Q3: There were reports that say that you are injured before the WC and you were not able to do 4T for 7 weeks. Does this affect your performance in this competition?
Yuzu: Of course this made me change my FS’ Quad jumps for the 2nd half. However, I feel comfortable after skating my program. I almost do not feel that my injury is affecting me. In any case, I just feel regrettable. I would like to thank all of you and please look forward to the next season.

Q4: You mentioned that it's going to be a tough/hard year into next season. So what are your plans now?
Yuzu: I want to do a lot of practices. And I will do more difficult things and to perform more programs that will be able to touch all your hearts. Also, I would like to consider what kind of programs I would really like to perform. At the same time, I will work hard towards the next season.

Q5: Last question. There were reports that say that you will retire from competition after the 2018 Pyeong Chang Olympics. Beijing will be hosting the 2022 Winter Olympics, so could you please predict what you will be doing then?
Yuzu: I am still not sure about the retirement now so I can’t comment much. I will just work hard towards the Pyeong Chang. And until Beijing’s, there maybe possibilities that I may still be skating. Seriously, I can’t really imagine things that are so far away from now, so I just hope that by then I will be performing my best through all my hard work. Thank you.
 
I am so thrilled to hear Hanyu even considering skating until 2022. I really hope he does. 2018 is far too soon for him to retire when you see someone like Chan going to 2018, and Fernandez who is almost as old as Chan talking of going past 2018.
 
kwanoverrated said:
I am so thrilled to hear Hanyu even considering skating until 2022. I really hope he does. 2018 is far too soon for him to retire when you see someone like Chan going to 2018, and Fernandez who is almost as old as Chan talking of going past 2018.
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I don't know if his body can hold so long doing so many quads. His bone in leg is already getting damaged, so another many years... I just can't see it. He propably gonna do 4 quad LP but how long his body can let him to do that ?
Personally I wouldn't like to see him struggle to land any quad late in his career like it happened to Tim Goebel, who was able to land at some point 3 quads, and then 0
 
Mikaboo's translation of the interview Yuzuru did with Fujitivi right after WC at Boston:
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What kind of a competition was this World Championships?
Regrettable. There were lots of issues found especially in the FS. I'm more optimistic than I thought I'd be and more frustrated than everyone might imagine. There's still some time until the next season starts but I want to do many things before the it starts and become stronger.

How frustrating is it now compared to Worlds last year?
Placing 1st in the SP last year and placing 1st in then SP this year is of a different quality. If we look at the scores alone, everybody's levels went up so it's regrettable but compared to last season, my placement in the FS went up by one so I think I grew a little bit.

Your FS didn't go as you hoped for. From the time I interviewed you in Toronto and your perfect SP, I thought things were looking good so I was surprised at your FS. Did something change in between?
Maybe I couldn't control the peaking time even though Brian, Tracy and I talked about it a lot so that's regrettable. I didn't think my SP was ready but when I arrived here and was interviewed at the airport, I realized that I was prepared for the competition in regards to how I'd been training, how I've been building my condition and my mental state, etc. In that sense, I thought I was in a perfect state but with this as the result, I need to rethink about a lot of things.

Nobody know what's going to happen on the ice so mistakes will happen. You mentioned at the press conference that you started to feel nervous.
This might be just my analysis, but I was able to perform 2 good skates consecutively and had good results and broke records. I was able to do more run-throughs without mistakes and my feelings towards winning increased too. But as a result, my feelings towards how to perfect the program, how I perform, how I jump, how I feel towards the program grew after every competition. When you interviewed me in Toronto, I said that there is no limit and there'll never be "perfection" for me but the scores I received told me that I was close to perfection so I think I got too caught up in that. This is the conclusion I came up with as I thought about this yesterday. I felt that I had to aim for perfection, and aiming for perfection leads to motivation and focusing but it also leads to feeling pressure and I felt I was chasing after something I'd already achieved. I think I was feeling this way at GPF also but I felt like I had to outperform myself from the previous competition. My analysis is that I trapped myself. What I said at the press conference is that "the quality of nervousness was different". I read various articles about myself when I try to clarify what happened and I noticed that I mentioned "perfection" and the "different quality of nervousness". These are the 2 key words for me here. "Perfection" didn't mean "performing the best that I can do now" but "outperforming the perfect skates I already had" and that brought out the different type of nervousness.

Last season, you weren't able to be where you wanted to be. This season was a season of progress, not just for you, but for the other skaters as well. How do you evaluate this season?
Javi included 2 quads in his SP and the 3A int he 2nd half of his FS. Shoma moved the 3A in the 2nd half. So there were a lot of evolutions going on during the season. Especially regarding Javi including 2 quads in the SP, this happened while I was away from the Cricket Club so when I found that out, I didn't think of him a rink mate or a team mate but a rival and a scary existence. So when I lost to him, I felt frustrated. It was the same as last season where I placed 1st in the SP and made mistakes in the FS and watched Javi's FS thinking "I'm going to lose to him again this year". But the quality of frustration is totally different. Of course I'm frustrated at myself but I look at Javi with more familiarity as well as more of a rival.

Did you sense his seriousness?
He changed a lot. I won 2 years in a row at the GPF at his home and he must have felt frustrated about that as well as missing the podium at Sochi. I think these experiences have transformed him. He is a scary existence but I admire him, have always admired him so I admire him even more.

Thoughts about next season?
One thing that is clear is to increase the level of difficulty. Now that the season has ended, my thought is that I can't remain at this level. About the quality of nervousness I was talking about, I'm extremely mad at myself for thinking that I was perfect. I received the maximum score with a layout of the most technical difficulty that I'm currently able to deliver so I think I was satisfied with myself in a way. So I need to aim higher and I want to be stronger.

Is it hard to escape from the past?
Yes, I could use it as a stepping stone like with the feelings of regrets from the past and present. These feeling have made me stronger in the past and will continue to make me strong. But past successes can't necessarily be usable as a stepping stone. Only I can make it become that. No matter what kind of an environment I'm in or no matter what anyone says, this is the dream I've been chasing after so it's only myself who can think and continue with the dream so I have to challenge my limit and go beyond my limit.

By "raising the difficulty," does it mean you'll be adding different types of quads?
I'm thinking about that too but if possible, doing 2 in the 2nd half. I want to keep on challenging myself. But on top of that, I want to increase the level of perfection of the program with the way I'm able to show, interpret, express and feel so I want to show that as well as deliver the utmost technically difficult program even if I have to fumble along the way.

What kind of a program would you like to do? SEIMEI was a great challenge so I'm really looking forward to what you'll choose next.
I'm still thinking about the music, even more than last season. I can't give a decisive answer in regards to what kind of music I'll choose but I think when the time comes, I'll think "this is it" or "I want to challenge this" or "I want to add depth to this type". Expression has so many directionality, not only in its breadth but also in depth and perfecting it. Reception is different for everyone so I want to think about how I feel, what I want to do and how I want to perform.

People will have high expectations now so it'll be difficult to satisfy them.
But people's expectations make me happy. It means that what I've been doing since I was a child is paying off. Since I was little, I skated to improve for a sense of accomplishment but also because I wanted to be praised. I want to do a program where I can move people as well as lay importance on how I want to perform. So I hope everyone looks forward to what I decide to do and I'll also enjoy feeling people's expectations as I prepare for next season.

Is there anything you want to do now that the season is over?
My head is full of things regarding skating. I want to do something that'll have good influences on my skating. I have fantastic earphones, headphones, and music players so I hope to use them to think about the next programs and absorb myself into music. There is nothing I'm thinking about that isn't related to skating.
I think this season where I achieved most of what I wanted mid-season, and having disappointing skates for the last 2 competitions is an ordeal from god. I think I'm being told to think about skating and about what I can do for my body and mind.

What do you want to eat when you go back to Japan. You said sushi before but what is it now?
I guess you're telling me to relax but I can't think about anything but skating. It's inevitable, I can't change my personality even if I wanted to so I'll cherish it and face up to skating.
 
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