USFS Team Envelopes 2024-25 Updated

[ice coverage]

Listings for 2025-26 USFS funding envelopes have been published online.

Team USA Funding | U.S. Figure Skating

www.usfigureskating.org

For the first time (AFAIK), the public page is more specific -- with listings for the separate tiers (such as A1, A2, B1, B2, etc.) within each envelope.
(In past seasons, we could read the criteria for the separate tiers, but the public listings used to lump together the skater names into just Team A, Team B, etc.)

Carreira/Ponomarenko and Green/Parsons met the Team A - Tier 2 criterion of: Placements 4th – 10th at the 2025 ISU World Figure Skating Championships. But both teams (by accident, I hope?) are (mis?)categorized as B1.

I wonder whether some (but not all?) self-funded results did not count?
A criterion for Team C - Tier 2 is: Placements 2nd – 3rd at any senior ISU international competition in the 2024-25 season.
Listed in C2 are Fitzpatrick/Bearinger (who placed third at Ice Challenge).
Not listed in C2 are Cui/Rogers (second at Ice Challenge); Savary (third at Maria Oleszewska Memorial in Poland); and Gewalt (second at Tayside Trophy).

 

[Rukia]

Carreira/Ponomarenko and Green/Parsons met the Team A - Tier 2 criterion of: Placements 4th – 10th at the 2025 ISU World Figure Skating Championships. But both teams (by accident, I hope?) are (mis?)categorized as B1.

does the shibs' treacher know no end????

(because someone will 100% misread this pls know this is a joke)

 

[Karen-W]

Listings for 2025-26 USFS funding envelopes have been published online.

Team USA Funding | U.S. Figure Skating

www.usfigureskating.org

For the first time (AFAIK), the public page is more specific -- with listings for the separate tiers (such as A1, A2, B1, B2, etc.) within each envelope.
(In past seasons, we could read the criteria for the separate tiers, but the public listings used to lump together the skater names into just Team A, Team B, etc.)

Carreira/Ponomarenko and Green/Parsons met the Team A - Tier 2 criterion of: Placements 4th – 10th at the 2025 ISU World Figure Skating Championships. But both teams (by accident, I hope?) are (mis?)categorized as B1.

I wonder whether some (but not all?) self-funded results did not count?
A criterion for Team C - Tier 2 is: Placements 2nd – 3rd at any senior ISU international competition in the 2024-25 season.
Listed in C2 are Fitzpatrick/Bearinger (who placed third at Ice Challenge).
Not listed in C2 are Cui/Rogers (second at Ice Challenge); Savary (third at Maria Oleszewska Memorial in Poland); and Gewalt (second at Tayside Trophy).

I think we've seen them make errors in past years with the funding envelopes. FSUers like @Sylvia would reach out to their contacts at the USFS to inquire and then the envelopes listed on the public page would be corrected.

C1 is where it starts to get dicey - it says "Top 1-24 in season’s best scores or world standings for the 2024-25 season for junior athletes and teams".

Patrick Blackwell - #16 on the Jr Men Season World Standings & 9th best Jr Men's score this past season
Taira Shinohara - 21st best Jr Men's score this past season (he's not even listed for any of envelope funding!)
Carpenter/Maravilla - #16 on the Jr Pairs Season World Standings & 17th best Jr Pairs score this past season
Ilin/Cain - 19th best Jr Ice Dance score this past season
Mullen/Mullen - #7 on the Jr Ice Dance Season World Standings & 6th best Jr Ice Dance score this past season

Agree with the missing skaters you noted for C2 - also missing is Sonja Hilmer who was 3rd at Santa Claus Cup.

Team D, both tiers, looks fine.

 

[ice coverage]

I think we've seen them make errors in past years with the funding envelopes. ...

Yep, I remember.
On a positive note: discrepancies are fewer this year than in past years.

 

[Karen-W]

Yep, I remember.
On a positive note: discrepancies are fewer this year than in past years.

Eh, I just edited my post above. There are multiple issues with C1 v. C2 - maybe they can blame the ISU's crappy website and the missing Statistics & World Standings pages in the run-up to Governing Council for the oversights.

 

[ice coverage]

... C1 is where it starts to get dicey - it says "Top 1-24 in season’s best scores or world standings for the 2024-25 season for junior athletes and teams".

Patrick Blackwell - #16 on the Jr Men Season World Standings & 9th best Jr Men's score this past season
Taira Shinohara - 21st best Jr Men's score this past season (he's not even listed for any of envelope funding!)
Carpenter/Maravilla - #16 on the Jr Pairs Season World Standings & 17th best Jr Pairs score this past season
Ilin/Cain - 19th best Jr Ice Dance score this past season
Mullen/Mullen - #7 on the Jr Ice Dance Season World Standings & 6th best Jr Ice Dance score this past season ...

You and I had a discussion last year about juniors.
My (long) post #15 in this thread explained why I think that the "problem" is just that USFS wording historically has been poor regarding C1 juniors.
The same USFS wording goes back to seasons before ISU even had created separate World Standings for junior events.
So I think the USFS wording regarding C1 juniors continues to refer to the entire WS list (including both senior/junior results) and entire SB list (including both senior/junior results) -- and not to the WS list only for junior events or SBs only from junior events.

... Agree with the missing skaters you noted for C2 - also missing is Sonja Hilmer who was 3rd at Santa Claus Cup. ...

Yes, and thanks! I knew there were four absences that I wanted to put in my post, but dumb me somehow forgot to mention Sonja (whom I like I lot).

A good thing about 2025-26:
USFS has changed the written novice criteria for D2 to match the actual recipients to whom it gives the envelope funding.
It bugged me in past seasons that the D2 criteria used to refer (only) to NQS rankings, but the named recipients did not correspond to NQS rankings. Even though the written novice criteria previously did not include placements at Sectional Singles Finals/Dance Final/Pairs Final, it was evident from the named recipients in past seasons that Finals placements in fact were being substituted as the novice criteria.

 

[Karen-W]

You and I had a discussion last year about juniors.
My (long) post #15 in this thread explained why I think that the "problem" is just that USFS wording historically has been poor regarding C1 juniors.
The same USFS wording goes back to seasons before ISU even had created separate World Standings for junior events.
So I think the USFS wording regarding C1 juniors continues to refer to the entire WS list (including both senior/junior results) and entire SB list (including both senior/junior results) -- and not to the WS list only for junior events or SBs only from junior events.

That would explain it, but it doesn't make it right.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Listings for 2025-26 USFS funding envelopes have been published online.

Team USA Funding | U.S. Figure Skating

www.usfigureskating.org

For the first time (AFAIK), the public page is more specific -- with listings for the separate tiers (such as A1, A2, B1, B2, etc.) within each envelope.
(In past seasons, we could read the criteria for the separate tiers, but the public listings used to lump together the skater names into just Team A, Team B, etc.)

Carreira/Ponomarenko and Green/Parsons met the Team A - Tier 2 criterion of: Placements 4th – 10th at the 2025 ISU World Figure Skating Championships. But both teams (by accident, I hope?) are (mis?)categorized as B1.

I wonder whether some (but not all?) self-funded results did not count?
A criterion for Team C - Tier 2 is: Placements 2nd – 3rd at any senior ISU international competition in the 2024-25 season.
Listed in C2 are Fitzpatrick/Bearinger (who placed third at Ice Challenge).
Not listed in C2 are Cui/Rogers (second at Ice Challenge); Savary (third at Maria Oleszewska Memorial in Poland); and Gewalt (second at Tayside Trophy).

Yup no more MarBed

 

[barbk]

or at least read their own requirements and make sure all the skaters/teams are in the correct envelopes per the criteria before publishing, lol

Or hire you!

 

[ice coverage]

Listings for 2025-26 USFS funding envelopes have been published online.

Team USA Funding | U.S. Figure Skating

www.usfigureskating.org

... Carreira/Ponomarenko and Green/Parsons met the Team A - Tier 2 criterion of: Placements 4th – 10th at the 2025 ISU World Figure Skating Championships. But both teams (by accident, I hope?) are (mis?)categorized as B1. ...

Update since yesterday: Carreira/Ponomarenko now appear in A2.
I hope that Green/Parsons's names soon will be moved as well.

 

[Evgeniafan]

Update since yesterday: Carreira/Ponomarenko now appear in A2.
I hope that Green/Parsons's names soon will be moved as well.

Why is Jacob Sanchez so low. He won JGP final.

 

[ice coverage]

Why is Jacob Sanchez so low. He won JGP final.

JGPF champion is not a criterion for any tier. (Nor is GPF champion, BTW.)

Some of the criteria for C2 C1:
o Placements 7th – 8th in the championship events at the 2025 U.S. Figure Skating Championships
o Placements 2nd – 3rd at the 2025 ISU World Junior Championships
o Champion at any senior ISU international competition in the 2024-25 season
o Champion at any of the seven ISU Junior Grand Prix competitions in the 2024-25 season
o Qualifier for the 2024 ISU Junior Grand Prix Final

Sanchez was 7th at Nats; champion at Tallinn Trophy; champion at two JGPs; qualifier for JGPF.
(4th at Junior Worlds.)

 

[Rukia]

Update since yesterday: Carreira/Ponomarenko now appear in A2.
I hope that Green/Parsons's names soon will be moved as well.

justice has been done (halfway anyway move g/p up too babes)