(Updated) Denis Ten Murdered: was stabbed in the thigh

Moka-Ananas said:
Denis Ten buried in Almaty: https://www.nur.kz/1743417-denisa-tena-pohoronili-v-almaty.html

The article says his mother got mad at some reporters: "Put away the cameras! What is this for you? A show?! You have no shame."
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And, who on earth could blame her? His mother and father were placing their son's body in the ground forever. This should have been a completely private time for family members only. It IS shameful that reporters show up to capture the most painful moments people can suffer. They had no business being there at all. it was a disrespectful intrusion of the highest order. Shame on them.
 
Japanfan said:
I too would like to find that comfort.



I guess we'll need to wait for the official report or equivalent to be issued.

But I would think one would lose consciousness very quickly due to massive blood loss, sort of like a blinking out.
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Yes, I agree that, once the femoral artery was cut, he would have lost consciousness within a couple of minutes at most. But, it seems he was stabbed multiple times in the upper buttocks & had multiple abrasions on his face, hands, upper torso, feet & knees. So, he was badly beaten up and stabbed repeatedly. Sounds like the poor little guy fought back as best he could but had no chance whatsoever against 2 guys & a knife. My God, I hope both his murderers get life in prison with NO parole.
 
seabm7 said:
All That Sports, his management agency in Korea, uploaded a short clip of the funeral,

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ble67JNFM9Z/

(ETD: corrected)
The red banner in front of the coffin is written in Korean, but the style is different from the modern Korean dialect. All That Sports says the banner means "Coffin of Youth Denis Ten".
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Probably it's dialect of Koryo-Saram - Koreans in post-Soviet republic. I've heard their mother tongue is quite different from modern Korean (and it's dying language)
 
According to this article https://www.nur.kz/1743428-podozrev...la-s-avto-v-astane-za-nedelu-do-tragedii.html , it turns out, one of the murderers, Arman Kudaibergenov, stole mirrors from a car 8 days before in Astana.
He got caught, confessed and was to appear in court a week to 10 days later and also was forbidden to leave the city of Astana. But somehow he escaped and the authorities did nothing :mad:.
The owner of the car in Astana was approached by the police to identify the man which he did immediately. They told him not to speak of it but he got so angry and terrified that he had to. He also said his mirrors were very neatly cut out and had he arrived at the scene, he would've probably shared Denis' fate :(.

The fact that this could have been prevented had the police not let Kudaibergenov escape makes it even more painful. The country seems to be messed up regarding that and no wonder many Kazakhs demand that several people in power resign from their positions.
 
Now an ex-girlfriend of Kiyasov of course also had something to say: https://www.nur.kz/1743450-byvsaa-devuska-nuraly-kiasova-a-ne-veru-cto-on-vinoven.html

- she doesn't believe that he's guilty
- he comes from a good and wealthy family
- he's never been violent (his track record at the police says something different)
- she believes in a mistake

She should just STFU. That dude has confessed, he is guilty of robbery and murder, end of story.
 
Moka-Ananas said:
Now an ex-girlfriend of Kiyasov of course also had something to say: https://www.nur.kz/1743450-byvsaa-devuska-nuraly-kiasova-a-ne-veru-cto-on-vinoven.html

- she doesn't believe that he's guilty
- he comes from a good and wealthy family
- he's never been violent (his track record at the police says something different)
- she believes in a mistake

She should just STFU. That dude has confessed, he is guilty of robbery and murder, end of story.
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Given the history of the Kazakh justice system I would look at any confession, particularly in such a high profile case, with some level of doubt as its veracity.
 
Were any skaters able to get to the funeral to pay their last respects? It was all very quickly done.
 
leigh466 said:
Were any skaters able to get to the funeral to pay their last respects? It was all very quickly done.
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I would imagine there will be a separate memorial service at some point later on, where skaters will get the opportunity to pay their respects. Funerals are usually done pretty quickly after death, at least in the traditions I'm familiar with...
 
Crossposting from the GP thread:

OK, I still haven't been able to bring myself to read this thread; but I know the conversation about how to honor his memory is probably going on here so I just wanted to post a couple thoughts here:

I think he would love Eislauffen's idea of a foundation or scholarship for young athletes from developing nations. His speech during the Olympic bid presentation was such a powerful one, and he said that helping give young athletes in Kazakhstan the chance to develop was the reason he agreed to dedicate his time to representing Kazakhstan in that bid.

I'm also sure a moment of silence would be fine, though I have to say that when I think of Denis, I never think of silence. I always think of music. A moment of playing his music--maybe from Mi Mancherai or Caruso or The Silk Road or even something he wrote--would probably be even better.

(I do think Denis would want someone to have the opportunity to skate at Rostelecom).
 
Dobre said:
I think he would love Eislauffen's idea of a foundation or scholarship for young athletes from developing nations. His speech during the Olympic bid presentation was such a powerful one, and he said that helping give young athletes in Kazakhstan the chance to develop was the reason he agreed to dedicate his time to representing Kazakhstan in that bid.
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It would be wonderful if this could be combined with a "Skating Spectacular" tribute; the proceeds of which could be added to other efforts.
I would hope that there would be a portal through which his legion of admirers could contribute, as well.
 
I took the flowers to the Consulate (not Embassy). For those interested, the entrance is on 44th between Fifth and Madison due to construction on most of the block on Fifth between 44th and 45th. I met some Kazakhs in the lobby who invited me to go upstairs with them to "have my picture taken with him," but alas, I could not as my husband was circling the block and would have had to stop and hold up traffic waiting for me to reappear ten minutes late. I gave my flowers to a young woman to take into the Consulate. I'm glad I was able to make the trip. May The Artist rest in peace and may the perpetual light shine upon him.
 
Moka-Ananas said:
Is Abzal Rakimgaliev still skating? Or has he retired after last season's Worlds?
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He was still skating as of last spring. I don't think he is close to meeting the GP qualifying standards though, and I don't know if the ISU would bend the rules to allow him to be invited. However I also don't want to derail this thread on discussing possible replacements for Denis.
 
I come back to this thread as a place to share the grief about Denis and to read all your comments and thoughts.
Nevertheless, my good friend Mario and I have now created an onlince condolence book for Denis (after one friend wondered if that could be done) as a place for all of us who care about him to share their grief and their cherished memories of him. Please feel free to join us.
https://www.forevermissed.com/denis-ten/#about
 
I'm so struck by this. How often we with hold our praise. As if our critical comments trump positive ones. These skaters are doing something so miraculous. Better to find and recognize the positive.

Denis has left use in a horrific way. But others will leave us as they age and move on. How wonderful it has been to witness Gracie, Jason, Christina Gao, Takihito Mura, Bernice Meite......... All these elite skates have given me moments to cherish. Right now I want to honor that.
 
I have been skating since 1995. I am not bad not great. Never had a hope at elite level as I was 28 when I started. I have a soft spot in my heart for those who persevere even when they are injured or "old" or can't get a triple axel or quad whatever. They love skating. And so do I.
 
Lacey said:
How about an award at Worlds/Olympics for the program most resembling Dennis' artistic and athletic spirit and style?
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Or maybe for the small federation skater who's made the most significant technical and artistic gains over the season, rather than tying it to Denis's own specific style? That way it would reflect both his holistic vision of skating, and the support he showed for small skating nations, and help to promote the development of the sport.

Ideally, of course, it would be both an award and a scholarship, but it would hard to find the funding for both.
 
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