U.S. Women [#7]: Make Me a Believer!

I may be a party of one here, but by the time worlds rolls around it would’ve been five months since Isabeau has competed, and since we’ve seen her, I say send her to 4 CC if the foot is OK to get some of the rust out. Five months is a long break for someone’s first assignment to be the worlds where Olympic spots are being determined.
 
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL) said:
I say send Sarah to junior worlds and 4cc and still let her be the first alternate for senior worlds, It seems like her body and her mentality can handle all of it. But that’s just my opinion.
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She's only human, and that would be a lot. Remember how Sophie Joline imploded when they rushed her to another JGP after her surprise win? I totally understand why they did it, but it turned out to be more than she could handle.
 
Wyliefan said:
She's only human, and that would be a lot. Remember how Sophie Joline imploded when they rushed her to another JGP after her surprise win? I totally understand why they did it, but it turned out to be more than she could handle.
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Yeah, that sounds more logical. You r right.

I guess because I thought she got hosed after nationals last year. I’m kind of in a mode of give her everything possible.

❤️
 
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL) said:
I may be a party of one here, but by the time worlds rolls around it would’ve been five months since Isabeau has competed, and since we’ve seen her, I say send her to 4 CC if the foot is OK to get some of the rust out. Five months is a long break for someone’s first assignment to be the worlds where Olympic spots are being determined.
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She HAS to prove she's ready - from the Selection Doc.

"To be considered for selection by petition, the athlete must be able to prove competitive readiness by performing complete competition programs (SP/RD, FS/FD) with all planned program elements by a specified date, as approved and reviewed by a monitoring panel to be determined by the International Committee. In addition, U.S. Figure Skating medical personnel must verify that the athlete(s) will be physically ready to compete at the World Championships. If the petition is accepted, the athlete/team will be added to the pool."

They will remove her and replace her if she isn't ready.
 
Interesting choices for junior worlds. I wish them all the best! I mean, if you really think about it, it makes sense if they are clean, they have the best chance to do well at those events and Sarah deserves some event if she doesn’t get to go to worlds. Sarah now doesn’t have to train a junior program and can be doing her senior program in preparation for a possible worlds call. Elyces season will be over at junior worlds so she can focus on a modified program starting today and the rest of the age eligible skaters for junior worlds could be buried at jr worlds even if clean. I don’t know why Amber is going to 4CC seems like a mistake.
 
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Karen-W said:
She HAS to prove she's ready - from the Selection Doc.

"To be considered for selection by petition, the athlete must be able to prove competitive readiness by performing complete competition programs (SP/RD, FS/FD) with all planned program elements by a specified date, as approved and reviewed by a monitoring panel to be determined by the International Committee. In addition, U.S. Figure Skating medical personnel must verify that the athlete(s) will be physically ready to compete at the World Championships. If the petition is accepted, the athlete/team will be added to the pool."

They will remove her and replace her if she isn't ready.
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I know yes proving your self to a committee is one thing, getting the mileage under your belt in front of audiences we’re nerves are is another. I think Boston is going to have a huge audience with stress for a Home worlds where skaters are trying to get Olympic spots. Don’t get me wrong. I love the world team as it is now I would just love to see her have one comp before that.
 
Karen-W said:
www.usfigureskating.org

U.S. Figure Skating Names Women's World, World Junior and Four Continents Team Selections | U.S. Figure Skating

www.usfigureskating.org www.usfigureskating.org

2025 World Junior Championships
Elyce Lin-Gracey
Sophie Joline von Felten

Alternate 1: Logan Higase-Chen
Alternate 2: Sherry Zhang
Alternate 3: Josephine Lee
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Interesting that Higase-Chen leap frogs Zhang in alternates list. Perhaps because of her 3z-3t combo, and she did compete decently in international competitions while Zhang sat out international season with injury. Or maybe being a Gambill student got her there. Which brings us to Lin-Gracey.

tangerine dream said:
Yikes, Elyce to junior worlds? I guess USFS doesn't want JGP spots :rolleyes:
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To be fair, it was always going to be on Von Felton. Everhardt’s 3t-3t wasn’t going to compete with the more artistic athletes with 3z-3t in the SP and LP. Everhardt would’ve been there to reliably finish top 10 (guarantee two jr. World spots and/or combine with a hit Von Felton to get 3 jr world spots). Von Felton’s the one with the best chance to compete for top 3 nations.

But wow, let’s send 2 skaters with mercurial records! :yikes:
 
her grace said:
To be fair, it was always going to be on Von Felton. Everhardt’s 3t-3t wasn’t going to compete with the more artistic athletes with 3z-3t in the SP and LP. Everhardt would’ve been there to reliably finish top
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OK this is a good time for me to ask my question. Daleman had an awesome triple toe triple told with massive GOE. Ben said yesterday Sarah triple toe Trip hotel took up the entire edge of the rink, isn’t it a strategy, perhaps with a triple toe, triple toe and massive GOE the same as a triple lutz triple toe with regular GOE
 
I think the only reason why I wouldn’t want Amber to go is because the points other skaters will get from Europeans and from 4 cc will drop Amber down to the pentultimate group for the Boston short program.
 
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL) said:
I think the only reason why I wouldn’t want Amber to go is because the points other skaters will get from Europeans and from 4 cc will drop Amber down to the pentultimate group for the Boston short program.
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Amber won all her events this year, is the gpf champion, us national champion at a home worlds. I would think she is going to get the marks she deserves (or even a boosted score) regardless of when she skates.
 
Jarrett said:
I would think she is going to get the marks she deserves (or even a boosted score) regardless of when she skates.
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If she's clean. If not, perhaps not.

Has the Korean Fed announced the Worlds team? (I couldn't find it.)

Sakamoto and Levito are untouchable in WS and will go in ranked 1-2. Chaeyeon Kim can be bumped down, but not out of the Top 6, even if she doesn't earn at 4C's.

With Hendrickx out of Euros, both she and Glenn can be bumped from the Top 6 with a 5th or higher by Pinzarrone at Euros and Chiba with a sixth or higher at 4C's, but not out of the penultimate group, because the skaters below them can only earn incremental championship points. You have to go down to WS 18, Yelim Kim, to find a skater who has a free championship spot that will earn full points.
 
kwanfan1818 said:
If she's clean. If not, perhaps not.

Has the Korean Fed announced the Worlds team? (I couldn't find it.)

Sakamoto and Levito are untouchable in WS and will go in ranked 1-2. Chaeyeon Kim can be bumped down, but not out of the Top 6, even if she doesn't earn at 4C's.

With Hendrickx out of Euros, both she and Glenn can be bumped from the Top 6 with a 5th or higher by Pinzarrone at Euros and Chiba with a sixth or higher at 4C's, but not out of the penultimate group, because the skaters below them can only earn incremental championship points. You have to go down to WS 18, Yelim Kim, to find a skater who has a free championship spot that will earn full points.
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Pretty sure it's Kim, Lee & Yun, but I haven't seen anything official - that's based off K-Nats results.
 
olympic said:
Do we know the nature and / or extent of Isabeau's injury?
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No. All we know is that it is a foot injury. We don't know when she was injured, how badly, where she is in her recovery and training, etc. (Amber may know more. I can see Isabeau withdrawing if she knows she's not physically fit enough to skate well. Aside from knowing that there is going to be monitoring, there's no point in going to Worlds just to not skate well. That's not what you want to do in front of judges the year before the Olympics.)
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL) said:
I’m surprised too, I think we still may see a withdrawal, when I watched her free program for the 27th time at 1 AM this morning I noticed she said “my back” and wasn’t she saying that in China and France?
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There was a competition earlier in the season when she also commented on her back hurting when she came off the ice. She had fallen in that program, too, so I wondered if that tweaked her back.

Amber will figure out what is best for her with regard to 4CC. Even if she is in the penultimate group at Worlds, I don't think it would hurt her. She won her GPs and the GPF, and I think she probably is now seen by judges as a top-tier skater. Plus, her triple axel and her presentation would really stand out if she were not in the top group.
 
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL) said:
I say send Sarah to junior worlds and 4cc and still let her be the first alternate for senior worlds, It seems like her body and her mentality can handle all of it. But that’s just my opinion.
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I think those events are too close together this year. The women's FS at 4CCs in Feb 23rd, and the Jr women SP at JW is Feb 27th. That's really tight, especially with the travel. If there was another week or two it would still be a lot (especially if she ended up at Sr worlds), but it would be a bit more doable.
 
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL) said:
I say send Sarah to junior worlds and 4cc and still let her be the first alternate for senior worlds, It seems like her body and her mentality can handle all of it. But that’s just my opinion.
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At first I was poo-pooing the Jr. World selections, but basically, USFSA is planning for the best possible Sr. Worlds team in a variety of scenarios. Sarah can't be training Jr and Sr programs, flying all over and be expected to thrive should she be called on. Olympic spots and a home crowd experience on the line!!!

As for JGP spots, given the current geopolitical climate, JGP may not even happen.
 
RoseRed said:
I think those events are too close together this year. The women's FS at 4CCs in Feb 23rd, and the Jr women SP at JW is Feb 27th. That's really tight, especially with the travel. If there was another week or two it would still be a lot (especially if she ended up at Sr worlds), but it would be a bit more doable.
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Why do they keep changing the dates of these competitions now by scheduling them earlier or later in terms of weeks? Last year 4CC started the day after US Nationals and now this year 4CC is in late Feb and Junior Worlds for some reason starts just two days after 4CC at the end of Feb instead of at the very least early March like normal. Stop scheduling competitions so damn close!!
 
Jammers said:
Why do they keep changing the dates of these competitions now by scheduling them earlier or later in terms of weeks? Last year 4CC started the day after US Nationals and now this year 4CC is in late Feb and Junior Worlds for some reason starts just two days after 4CC at the end of Feb instead of at the very least early March like normal. Stop scheduling competitions so damn close!!
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The Korean fed asked the ISU to move the dates of 4CCs because of Asian Winter Games. The ISU agreed.
 
WOULDACOULDARETURNS said:
Compared to Nationals in other countries, it’s sad! Step up your game, USFS!
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Korean Nats had a plain white sponsor logos backdrop tacked up to the wall behind the bench they covered with a black cloth for their KnC set up. Made the US look downright regal.
 
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL) said:
I know yes proving your self to a committee is one thing, getting the mileage under your belt in front of audiences we’re nerves are is another. I think Boston is going to have a huge audience with stress for a Home worlds where skaters are trying to get Olympic spots. Don’t get me wrong. I love the world team as it is now I would just love to see her have one comp before that.
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Isabeau is one of the few skaters I'm not worried about collapsing under the pressure. It's one of the things I like best about her!
 
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