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[Allskate]

I'd be happy if COP only allowed it as a feature for one jump in a program. It becomes trite repeated over and over again.

I wonder if some skaters prefer to always do it the same way on a particular jump in order to have better muscle memory.

 

[Aceon6]

I wonder if some skaters prefer to always do it the same way on a particular jump in order to have better muscle memory.

Some just have it as a habit from when they were younger. Once they develop real quads and glutes, they don’t need to swing their arms up, but they’re stuck with it.

 

[Wyliefan]

We've been told more than once that, if you learn your jumps that way, it's a hard habit to break. It sounds like most skaters are probably not going to be able to drop it overnight, even if they'd like to.

 

[panda42]

Some just have it as a habit from when they were younger. Once they develop real quads and glutes, they don’t need to swing their arms up, but they’re stuck with it.

Interesting, does it make it easier when learning the jumps? I always thought that arms up was more difficult but a way to earn more points.

 

[Vagabond]

IINM, raised arms are no longer a recognized feature for jumps, so a skater won't earn higher levels by using them.

 

[Aceon6]

Interesting, does it make it easier when learning the jumps? I always thought that arms up was more difficult but a way to earn more points.

Kids often swing their arms up naturally to get height. When it was rewarded, coaches went with it. But it’s a barrier to quick rotation so I don’t think it helps at all.

 

[panda42]

Kids often swing their arms up naturally to get height. When it was rewarded, coaches went with it. But it’s a barrier to quick rotation so I don’t think it helps at all.

That makes total sense, I didn't realize that it was no longer rewarded by judges.

 

[kwanfan1818]

You never know that’s it’s not rewarded by judges: they can pack a lot of inconsistency and off-the-books scoring in GOE.

 

[gkelly]

There was a period when one of the official bullet points for positive GOE on jump elements was "varied position in the air / delay in rotation."

It's not clear whether that was originally intended to refer to simple variations of air positions such as arm positions, as opposed to more full-body variations (as with delayed axels, split-flips, etc.). While that was on the books, many skaters did start including simple arm variations and were apparently rewarded for them in their GOEs, so de facto that did become a positive bullet point.

Some skaters apparently found that learning to jump with one or both arms overhead actually helped their jump consistency, so they started using those variations on all or most of their jumps and continued doing so even after the GOE guidelines were rewritten to remove that bullet point.

Which is different, in any case, from just "throwing" their arms up, maybe above shoulder height but not overhead, in an effort to hoist themselves up into the air in an uncontrolled way. That would not have been rewarded or have helped consistency.

The current, comparable bullet point is worded as "very good body position from take-off to landing." So that can reward either a standard air position or a variation, as long as it is performed with very good quality, not only in the air but also before and after.

Different individual judges might have personal variations in terms of how they interpret and apply these bullet points.

But it would be hard to argue, under the current wording, that lifting one or both arms should automatically deserve a reward.

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

Do I remember correctly a skater, possibly Kerrigan, who could do a double and land with her hands on hips? Whoever it was I thought it was cool.

 

[gkelly]

Do I remember correctly a skater, possibly Kerrigan, who could do a double and land with her hands on hips? Whoever it was I thought it was cool.

She might have. What I remember more specifically was this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEtkTHjXx2g&t=2m32s, with hands next to her head.

And then there was this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebYJwKs4kpk&t=1m40s

 

[vireo]

Do I remember correctly a skater, possibly Kerrigan, who could do a double and land with her hands on hips? Whoever it was I thought it was cool.

I believe you're thinking of Jill Trenary. The jump is at about the 2:45 mark in this video.

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[SkateFanBerlin]

I believe you're thinking of Jill Trenary. The jump is at about the 2:45 mark in this video.

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Maybe, I remember it a little differently.

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

She might have. What I remember more specifically was this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEtkTHjXx2g&t=2m32s, with hands next to her head.

And then there was this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebYJwKs4kpk&t=1m40s

This is what I remember. Amazing to go from down low then up and into a jump. A coulple of the men could do this, I think.

 

[YukiNieve]

Jason Brown did a Q&A for his fans at the SOI show in Osaka, Japan.

He compared the experience at the 2025 Boston Worlds to that of the 2014 US Nationals (held at the same venue), explained his decision to skate to River Dance again, talked about the equipment problem, his plans for next season's programs and summer shows.

Something cute happened while filming this Q&A.

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[YukiNieve]

Ilia Malinin joins the TODAYshow live Monday morning, May 12, on NBC!

https://x.com/NBCOlympics/status/1921637681760776410

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

3F + 1Eu + Backflip

Patrick Blackwell

https://www.reddit.com/r/FigureSkating/s/3B4E1rnb8S

 

[Sasha'sSpins]

This is what I remember. Amazing to go from down low then up and into a jump. A coulple of the men could do this, I think.

Nancy's shoot the duck to arms up double Lutz was always impressive. I remember her performances more clearly from the 1994 Olympic season so it was interesting to watch her 1992 program. I love Jill Trenary's hands by her hips double flip variation too.

Back OT I missed Ilia's Today show appearance this morning as I was driving through a thunderstorm to Orlando lol. I'm glad that I can still watch it online!

 

[YukiNieve]

Ilia has been meeting interesting/famous people in NY and has posted some photos on his IG - Jimmy Fallon, Snoop Dogg, Daniel Radcliff, Victor Wembanyama (I think), etc.
Can you identify more?

ETA - there are tags on each photo now.

Ilia Malinin on Instagram: "Met some amazing people at the NBC upfront. #newyork #nbc #nbcuniversal #basketball #snoop #thevoice #bravo #harrypotter #quadg0d #iliamalinin"

2,571 likes, 37 comments - ilia_quadg0d_malinin on May 12, 2025: "Met some amazing people at the NBC upfront. #newyork #nbc #nbcuniversal #basketball #snoop #thevoice #bravo #harrypotter #quadg0d #iliamalinin".

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[NinjaTurtles]

Interesting that they invited him to the NBC Universal Upfronts - I guess that signals he'll be a major part of their Olympics marketing.

 

[Allskate]

Interesting that they invited him to the NBC Universal Upfronts - I guess that signals he'll be a major part of their Olympics marketing.

I'm sure he will be. He's a World Champion and major contender for Olympic Gold. Plus, even though figure skating isn't popular in general in the U.S., it does tend to be a big draw during the Olympics.

 

[Wyliefan]

Ilia has been meeting interesting/famous people in NY and has posted some photos on his IG - Jimmy Fallon, Snoop Dogg, Daniel Radcliff, Victor Wembanyama (I think), etc.
Can you identify more?

Ilia Malinin on Instagram: "Met some amazing people at the NBC upfront. #newyork #nbc #nbcuniversal #basketball #snoop #thevoice #bravo #harrypotter #quadg0d #iliamalinin"

2,571 likes, 37 comments - ilia_quadg0d_malinin on May 12, 2025: "Met some amazing people at the NBC upfront. #newyork #nbc #nbcuniversal #basketball #snoop #thevoice #bravo #harrypotter #quadg0d #iliamalinin".

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He's got them tagged. But I did recognize Reba McEntire without looking at the tag!

 

[YukiNieve]

He's got them tagged.

Hm... my IG post for this does not show any tags on the pictures.

 

[Wyliefan]

When I click on each photo, the tags pop right up.

 

[YukiNieve]

Yes I see the tags now.