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I feel like Jason would be the safer choice over Vincent because once Vincent catches the UR/inconsistent bug he tends to keep it the rest of the season. I'm 99% sure USFS will send Vincent over Jason, but it's the truth: I trust Jason a lot more than Vincent. If a "bad" program from Jason is a < fall on a quad but good everything else, that's still a lot better than the worst of most skaters and especially a lot better than Vincent's worst. Although they did miss a < in Jason's SP, international callers are similarly lenient to Jason's URs. International callers are most certainly not similarly lenient to Vincent's URs.

Also, Hi to whoever told me earlier this season that Vincent having a good fall and then struggling in the new year wasn't a thing and my prediction was wrong.
 
I feel like Jason would be the safer choice over Vincent because once Vincent catches the UR/inconsistent bug he tends to keep it the rest of the season. I'm 99% sure USFS will send Vincent over Jason, but it's the truth: I trust Jason a lot more than Vincent. If a "bad" program from Jason is a < fall on a quad but good everything else, that's still a lot better than the worst of most skaters and especially a lot better than Vincent's worst. Although they did miss a < in Jason's SP, international callers are similarly lenient to Jason's URs. International callers are most certainly not similarly lenient to Vincent's URs.

Also, Hi to whoever told me earlier this season that Vincent having a good fall and then struggling in the new year wasn't a thing and my prediction was wrong.
Do you keep up with this thread? Vincent in in a higher tier. There's not a 99% chance of anything. It's 100% Vincent is going, and the only battle left would be Malinin vs. Brown, which was the page all the Brown super fans were on until the long program today. But seeing how all of a sudden Malinin seems to be a given by said people...
 
Do you keep up with this thread? Vincent in in a higher tier. There's not a 99% chance of anything. It's 100% Vincent is going, and the only battle left would be Malinin vs. Brown, which was the page all the Brown super fans were on until the long program today. But seeing how all of a sudden Malinin seems to be a given by said people...

😅
 
No, no, no, no, no....

He felt so worthless after 2018...he uprooted his whole life to Canada and put in the work to completely overhaul his technique...he did everything they asked, met every criteria they wanted, was their second most consistent man the whole quad...
 
Hmmmm... Looks like the post with the Tweet from McCarvel as well as McCarvel's tweet itself have both been deleted. Guess we'll continue to wait and see for the next 25 minutes or so.
 
Hmmmm... Looks like the post with the Tweet from McCarvel as well as McCarvel's tweet itself have both been deleted. Guess we'll continue to wait and see for the next 25 minutes or so.
Even if he’s right, I wonder why he thought it’d be a good idea to tweet that. He does rely on having good relations with the USFS for his job, right? He’s not like a Brennan or Hersh type who’s whole thing is to be antagonistic towards them.
 
Hmmmm... Looks like the post with the Tweet from McCarvel as well as McCarvel's tweet itself have both been deleted. Guess we'll continue to wait and see for the next 25 minutes or so.
I embedded it, so maybe it's no longer visible because the original tweet got deleted.
 
They should send all 4 to Beijing - you never know what will happen during these times.

Given that this is an Olympic year, I understand the scores and the placements. However, in a non-Olympic year, I would have placed Ilia 1st, Nathan 2nd, Jason 3rd and Vincent in 4th. After Nathan's fall, I felt every jump after that was over scored (and I'm a Nathan fan). Ilia's performance was great, but could improve with maturity.
 
Even if he’s right, I wonder why he thought it’d be a good idea to tweet that. He does rely on having good relations with the USFS for his job, right? He’s not like a Brennan or Hersh type who’s whole thing is to be antagonistic towards them.
He works for NBC, just like Brennan works for USA Today. I think he is generally less adversarial than either of the other two but I'm not sure that's because of who pays the bills or because his approach seems to be much more straightforward as a sports journalist.
I embedded it, so maybe it's no longer visible because the original tweet got deleted.
Ahhh! makes sense!
 
No, no, no, no, no....

He felt so worthless after 2018...he uprooted his whole life to Canada and put in the work to completely overhaul his technique...he did everything they asked, met every criteria they wanted, was their second most consistent man the whole quad...
Jason is a beautiful skater and has a great future as a show skater choreographer or coach but every criteria?

He has yet to win a senior Grand Prix or stand on the world podium. He has yet to develop a consistent quad.

Yes he is more consistent but that’s cuz his jump content is easier.

There many criteria is someone who can win world and Olympic medals
 
Zhou won a Grand Prix gold medal, and has - if landed - more technical content potential than Brown. I wish they could all go, including Melanin but of course, one will be the alternate. The US needs to send a strong team with quads to show they can strongly compete with the best of the world at this point. I admire all that Jason has done and his wonderful and high-quality artistry but sadly, a skater with consistent quads or more of them, will likely be the pick.
 
I’m placing my bets now on Zhou finishing near the bottom of the competition and the outrage becoming overwhelming. Because I think he has the ability to do that. That said I’m assuming that Jason will be the alternate and I would say there’s a 50% chance that the first alternate goes this year
 
Vincent Zhou is like the poster boy for "team trainwreck." All the pieces are there except for consistency.
Yeah, shame about that 2019 Worlds medal, otherwise he'd be a certain candidate, though I'm sure some of the TTW denizens would say he isn't voidy enough, just like Calalang/Johnson aren't voidy enough for TTW. Maybe we really should start a new version of TTW that is far more inclusive of North American and Asian skaters, lol.
 

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