I think Eric burned a few too many bridges.They went with the pairs team that had the highest international scores this year in short, free, and overall. I don't know why this is even remotely controversial.
I think Eric burned a few too many bridges.They went with the pairs team that had the highest international scores this year in short, free, and overall. I don't know why this is even remotely controversial.
Apologies typo, I/B.Who are L/B? J/R had a decent free at IDF, with some issues, but seemed to be on the upswing.
W/M haven't had any great results internationally either... so didn't have the backing because they don't have the scoring potential IMO.
Like, I just don't see how this is at all surprising. J/R didn't have any stellar results, but they are a new team, and were previously part of 2 other elite teams... And. yes, OFC J/R scores still have been better internationally than W/M, so that's your primary reason really
I don't think so either. And christmas on a cracker, they certainly don't deserve it based on their music choices. Like wth is that.
Apologies typo, I/B.
W/M suffered illness at the beginning of the season, so they lost out during the autumn part of the season.
It isn't surprising, but it's still infuriating and disappointing. Who cares what teams they were part of? That's history, they needed to be elite together, which they aren't? The point is that J/R have gotten away with reputation scoring despite not being a team that should have a reputation. It has been clear to everyone watching this season.
I wonder why Vanessa's solo triples have been so wonky this season. I remember her 3t and 3s as both being very solid when she skated with Morgan. She looks to be in great shape this year. It can't be age that causing her to no longer be consistent on the jumps.
I hope she and Eric can put together 2 clean programs in Beijing to prove that they deserve the spot.
W/M fall season didn’t help them by any means. Had they had ok skates, they wouldn’t be in that position. They had few skates unfortunately.Frankly, I expect this decision will come back to bite Skate Canada in the rear in the next quad. Either W/M stay in and wind up qualifying for Milan without any Olympic experience or they hang up their skates which leaves Canada in an even worse situation for Pairs than the currently pretty dire one they're in.
Yes they were last/second last in their Grand Prix and 9th in their challenger. J/R were 4th in both their GP plus 4th in Zagreb ( where W/M was 9th)W/M fall season didn’t help them by any means. Had they had ok skates, they wouldn’t be in that position. They had few skates unfortunately.
Where did you find that? I don't see it on the Skate Canada website.Canada 4CC team is basically their team of Olympic alternates. Smart or dumb decision?
Women:
Gabrielle Daleman
Veronik Mallet
Alison Schumacher
Men:
Wesley Chiu
Corey Circelli
Joseph Phan
Pairs:
Matte / Ferland
Stellato / Deschamps
Walsh / Michaud
Ice dance:
Lauriault / Le Gac
Sales / Wamsteeker
Soucisse / Firus
I mean, who else would they send?Canada 4CC team is basically their team of Olympic alternates. Smart or dumb decision?
In many (most)? case, Canada has no other option of who to send. How many other skaters in each discipline do they have who have the required minimum scores?Canada 4CC team is basically their team of Olympic alternates. Smart or dumb decision?
Women:
Gabrielle Daleman
Veronik Mallet
Alison Schumacher
Men:
Wesley Chiu
Corey Circelli
Joseph Phan
Pairs:
Matte / Ferland
Stellato / Deschamps
Walsh / Michaud
Ice dance:
Lauriault / Le Gac
Sales / Wamsteeker
Soucisse / Firus
Maybe Canada is potentially worried about World Juniors not happening and then those skaters getting nothing to set up for next year?I’m most surprised at the men, since Chiu and Circelli are the obvious junior world team. Why not send other guys to 4CCs for the experience, world standing points, and chance to improve their season’s best score to boost their chances for a GP next season while at the same time protecting your Olympic alternates?
4CCs is a good 6 weeks before Jr Worlds. Those guys can easily do both and that's what I would expect.I’m most surprised at the men, since Chiu and Circelli are the obvious junior world team. Why not send other guys to 4CCs for the experience, world standing points, and chance to improve their season’s best score to boost their chances for a GP next season while at the same time protecting your Olympic alternates?
Could be but I think we'll be through the Omicron wave well in advance of Jr Worlds.Maybe Canada is potentially worried about World Juniors not happening and then those skaters getting nothing to set up for next year?
In pairs there's literally no one else. In women's they also have Pineault and Bausback; in dance there are Fabbri/Ayer and Lanaghan/Razgulajevs; and men there are Gogolev, Nguyen, Toman, Orzel, Clemens...In many (most)? case, Canada has no other option of who to send. How many other skaters in each discipline do they have who have the required minimum scores?
I expect Chiu and Circelli to do both too and I understand if they get good senior scores at 4CC's that can really boost their chances at GP's next year, it's just a bit risky.4CCs is a good 6 weeks before Jr Worlds. Those guys can easily do both and that's what I would expect.
Could be but I think we'll be through the Omicron wave well in advance of Jr Worlds.
Ugh. SC can eat rocks.Source of 4CC and World Team: IFSMagazine on Twitter.
World Team is exactly same team as Olympic Team. Poor W&M!!
I mean, who else would they send?
You’re talking about getting down to the 6-8 ranks in most disciplines, very few countries have that sort of depth in even one discipline, let alone all of them. And it makes no sense to keep your second tier twiddling their thumbs at home on the off-chance they’re needed as alternates when there’s an actual competition they could be attending.Not exactly a lot of depth….
Nam did the trifecta in 2014, also doing senior world's 2 weeks after Junior Worlds.Nam Nguyen did 4CC and jr worlds in 2014 so it's not unprecedented.
I’m surprised by how many within Skate Canada/alumni are openly hating this decision. Is that because J/R are hated for other reasons besides performance?There is so much moral outrage simply because people hate Radford/James for obvious reasons... scoring potential wise, they just have a higher ceiling than W/M, so this is not remotely controversial... and would have been justifiable even if they totally flopped the FS IMO. W/M just haven't made any case (other than this performance) to show they are going to be doing better internationally.