Not sure who is reminding you of them, but Marty used to train with Patti (L/W Coach) in Manitoba with a former pair partner. He is such a nice guy!Makes me think of Lawrence/Swiegers, who successfully trained pairs in rural Manitoba despite their coach having limited pairs experience. What type of seminars/supports/regional resources would need to be put in place to make this possible for more skaters, at an early developmental level?