Maybe go read the US Olympic selection criteria thread before making such an erroneous statement about how the USA picks their team. Even in the past, usually the results went with whomever won/placed 2nd/3rd at Nationals.
And, yah, it's very much treated like a sporting event, regardless of the level of difficulty being attempted.
Russian nationals are actually around Christmas, which is in roughly seven weeks.
I know the criteria. My opinion is my own. I was impressed that the Russians sent Semenenko to Worlds last year based on how he performed near the event, and it paid off. I heard a lot of opinions prior how they shouldn’t have done it because he had ‘no reputation.’ Well, now he has more of one. Less impressed at the US not sending Glenn to worlds after she placed 2nd at their nats. The argument could definitely be made that sending Karen Chen instead paid off, but I personally worry it demoralizes athletes like Glenn who don’t get chosen in spite of performing well at nationals, and in a country like Russia with 6 or 7 women contenders, I don’t see how it would fly.Maybe go read the US Olympic selection criteria thread before making such an erroneous statement about how the USA picks their team. Even in the past, usually the results went with whomever won/placed 2nd/3rd at Nationals.
This is probably a conversation best left for the US women's thread but last season was unique and there weren't a lot of data points to go off for US athletes due to the lack of competitions which wasn't the case with Russian Nats. I don't disagree with your thought, though, that it has the potential to be demoralizing to the athletes when they perform well at one of two in-person competitions held during the season.
I tried to score Sasha's free skate score at Test Skates and came to around 184. But that won't help much as Kamila has the 3A in the short.
If Sasha lands five quads in the LP, she will have the advantage. Valieva's 3A is not consistent (yet). She has three quads.
The Russian Cup Final is scheduled after Olympics though. So no skate off possible there.
I agree. She is a beautiful skater. Her SP is lovely. I don't like her LP for the reasons you mentioned.
To be fair, not medalling at the Europeans should mean that one shouldn’t be sent to the Olympics, because there are no Japanese ladies and no Korean ladies at the Europeans, and it is not as if any of the European countries had a strong ladies.
Don't think so. Three quad programs + a 3A is the optimal choice for a long program. You don't really get that much higher BV with quad #4 and 5 because you have to take out triples. Sasha's 5 quad program doesn't have a 3F and 3Lo.
Well, Belgium might beg to differ but, yeah, there's no way Loena is making the Euros podium unless at least one Russian woman has a very bad competition.
I still think all of the top seven Russian ladies that are in running for the Olympics are stronger skaters than Hendrickx. So if she beats either of them at Europeans, the skater don’t deserve to be sent to the Olympics.
For a few seasons at least some Mishin skaters were getting at least two sets of programs a season and choosing among them, and some of the choreographers were from outside Russia. And them Mishin would Mishinize them anyway. But working with different choreographers, who see different things in them, and experimenting with different music and styles can be a really great experience for skaters.
I sense that the issue with this when they were going to Adam Solya (who choreographs for Hendrickx) was that his skaters weren't able to skate the more complex programs as intended, and when Mishin reworked them and realized how nothing they had become (I mean, it's kinda funny because most Mishin programs aren't much of anything as is), that's where the new programs came in.
Has anyone chosen that option before - skipping Euros to prepare for the Olympics? Or do skaters/coaches usually think one more significant title helps one's reputation going into the Olympics?
The Euro title is very prestigious so they generally go but it is hard to say what the RFSF is going to be thinking after the GP, GPF, and Nats play out. They have made changes to their Worlds team based off of Euros and Russian Cup Final results during this quad so I don't think it is entirely out of the question for them to treat Euros as a skate-off for the 2nd/3rd or 3rd spots.
Quads have more points than triples. You know that of course. So your logic does not make sense.
It wont matter much coz you can get better total BV with adding triple axels, add in some extra GOE and the advantage is gone
Yes of course. What I'm saying is that the advantage of quads decreases with the number of quads.
If I was a betting woman this choice certainly makes sense. When the US was strong I always wanted to lend US skaters to other countries and was deservedly criticized for it. And yet I have that feeling again but for Russian skaters this time. So many skaters and only three can go....
Sofia M (Muravieva)Sofia S, Sofia A, Sofia T, did I miss another Sofia ?
That's when they usually are but someone told me because of the Olympic season they're backing up Nationals into January. When they are remains to be seen. Aliona Sasha and Anna need as much time as possible to make a real strong push for the Olympic team.
This is why I value the grand prix season so much because it's very possible that six Russian ladies will take every spot at the Grand Prix finals.
