Russian Figure Skater tests positive for drugs - delays ceremony for team medals

[Karen-W]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1696925638018449711

(NOT for Brennan's text, but for her screenshot of the letter)

Well, by "parties" they mean the IOC, ISU, WADA, RUSADA or Valieva - none of THEM have requested a public hearing, so that's the cover they're going to use and will be more than happy to let the IOC, ISU and WADA twist in the wind and look bad for not requesting a public hearing.

 

[VGThuy]

Well, by "parties" they mean the IOC, ISU, WADA, RUSADA or Valieva - none of THEM have requested a public hearing, so that's the cover they're going to use and will be more than happy to let the IOC, ISU and WADA twist in the wind and look bad for not requesting a public hearing.

That's very true. I wonder if the current procedures could be read to not have forbidden a non-party the opportunity to request a public or semi-public... or expand the invitees of who can attend the private hearing arguing public or private interest of the non-parties.

 

[Judy]

I seriously wonder if they’ll ever get their medals.

 

[her grace]

This is such an open-and-shut case that it is truly mind boggling that it hasn’t been resolved already.

Or stated in other words, how corrupt are these governing organizations?

 

[VGThuy]

Or stated in other words, how corrupt are these governing organizations?

As cynical as we already are, I feel the answer to this exposing the depth of corruption and politics will still disgust us.

 

[On My Own]

I seriously wonder if they’ll ever get their medals.

I don't think they will. I said so a long time back on the thread lol.

 

[VGThuy]

I don't think they will. I said so a long time back on the thread lol.

There was never a team competition at the 2022 Olympics!

 

[Karen-W]

There was never a team competition at the 2022 Olympics!

That's how I'll feel about it if the rest of the Russian team is allowed to keep their gold medals. Live and win as a team, Dope and die as a team.

 

[Vagabond]

There was never a team competition at the 2022 Olympics!

Oceania v. Eurasia v. Eastasia.

Should have happened in 1984 in Sarajevo, but actually happened in 2022 in Beijing, just after the clock struck thirteen, IIRC.

 

[Ananas Astra]

There was never a team competition at the 2022 Olympics!

And 2+2 equals 5.

 

[On My Own]

There was never a team competition at the 2022 Olympics!

Well rather I should say, I'm pretty sure the judgement will "somehow" fall in the favour of the Russian team.

 

[VGThuy]

And 2+2 equals 5.

Well rather I should say, I'm pretty sure the judgement will "somehow" fall in the favour of the Russian team.

I was just joking about the idea that NOBODY would ever get their medals as if the competition never happened; not making a statement about whoever is entitled to receive them and whatever color they are entitled to receive.

I seriously wonder if they’ll ever get their medals.

I don't think they will. I said so a long time back on the thread lol.

 

[On My Own]

I was just joking about the idea that NOBODY would ever get their medals as if the competition never happened; not making a statement about whoever is entitled to receive them and whatever color they are entitled to receive.

No I got that you were joking. I was just correcting myself. Probably should have quoted myself.

 

[Winnipeg]

This is the most absurd issue I have yet to hear about in this sport. Something that should have been clear cut and resolved immediately. You break the rules, you pay the consequences, end of story.

 

[caseyedwards]

No evidence whatsoever VALIEVA broke any rules

 

[On My Own]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1699173260284354874

lul

 

[LeafOnTheWind]

Well that was expected. I am still concerned that they are going to do everything they can to sweep this away and pretend nothing happened. I really don't understand how/why they are blatantly this corrupt and still getting away with it. You would think there are enough angry people that this shouldn't be happening.

 

[overedge]

No evidence whatsoever VALIEVA broke any rules

She tested positive for a banned substance in her system. That's breaking a rule

 

[BittyBug]

I am still concerned that they are going to do everything they can to sweep this away and pretend nothing happened. I really don't understand how/why they are blatantly this corrupt and still getting away with it. You would think there are enough angry people that this shouldn't be happening.

Same as it ever was...

 

[caseyedwards]

She tested positive for a banned substance in her system. That's breaking a rule

Intent Matters. See all the people who had their suspensions overturned if they said they kissed someone who was Doing cocaine or drinking someone’s wine

 

[On My Own]

God, she's really going to get away with it isn't she https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...onate-kissing-claim-to-get-drug-ban-reversed/

 

[Karen-W]

God, she's really going to get away with it isn't she https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...onate-kissing-claim-to-get-drug-ban-reversed/

that article is 6 years old...

 

[escaflowne9282]

that article is 6 years old...

Yes, but the precedent!

I'm not saying anyone isn't being truthful but saying,"I drank from the wrong cup of water" actually seems more plausible.

 

[overedge]

Intent Matters. See all the people who had their suspensions overturned if they said they kissed someone who was Doing cocaine or drinking someone’s wine

Oh, give me a break. The rules that you claim to know so well say that athletes are responsible for what goes into their system.

 

[On My Own]

Yes, but the precedent!

I'm not saying anyone isn't being truthful but saying,"I drank from the wrong cup of water" actually seems more plausible.

Yes.

What is trimetazidine? Would it have helped Kamila Valieva of Russia? (Published 2022)

News that the figure skater had tested positive for the banned substance raised questions that have come up in past doping scandals.

www.nytimes.com

Unclear whether or not it is PED though.

 

[coppertop1]

If intent matters, why was Jessica Calalangna banned?

 

[skatingguy]

If intent matters, why was Jessica Calalangna banned?

It doesn't - it may affect the length of the suspension, but an athlete will still face a suspension of some kind.

 

[hanca]

It doesn't - it may affect the length of the suspension, but an athlete will still face a suspension of some kind.

Not always. If they are Americans and claim that they are passionately kissing, they can avoid punishment. Let’s see if it works for Russians…

 

[LeafOnTheWind]

I certainly hope that Valieva wasn't passionately kissing her grandpa. Because there are some other serious issues there if that's the case.

 

[skatingguy]

Not always. If they are Americans and claim that they are passionately kissing, they can avoid punishment. Let’s see if it works for Russians…

No, they didn't avoid punishment. It just affected the length of the suspension.