Russian Figure Skater tests positive for drugs - delays ceremony for team medals

[On My Own]

They can ask, but the statute of limitations has expired on the 2014 Winter Olympics. That was the point of all the Russian obfuscation in the first place.

The current environment might help.

 

[Karen-W]

The current environment might help.

No, it won't. I'm quite positive that CAS would rule in favor of Sotnikova. As stated above, the statute of limitations on Sochi has already expired.

 

[Alilou]

No, it won't. I'm quite positive that CAS would rule in favor of Sotnikova. As stated above, the statute of limitations on Sochi has already expired.

I thought it was 10 years, which isn't up until Feb 2024.

 

[Karen-W]

I thought it was 10 years, which isn't up until Feb 2024.

Oh, you are probably right. I was thinking it was 8 years, but 10 is more likely.

 

[On My Own]

Oh, you are probably right. I was thinking it was 8 years, but 10 is more likely.

The words statute of limitation were not mentioned in the translation so I was confused. But the translation does mention something about 10 years...

 

[Alilou]

just re-read; they don't dispose of samples for 10 yrs so they should still have her samples

 

[Ananas Astra]

just re-read; they don't dispose of samples for 10 yrs so they should still have her samples

Imagine storing a ton of urine from athletes at your home or wherever for 10 years.
Ugh...

 

[MacMadame]

Imagine storing a ton of urine from athletes at your home or wherever for 10 years.
Ugh...

At your home?? They store them in freezers at the lab so they don't degrade, not on people's mantles.

 

[Ananas Astra]

At your home?? They store them in freezers at the lab so they don't degrade, not on people's mantles.

As if I didn't know.

 

[TAHbKA]

Lying liars and the lies they tell:

Doctor Philipp Shvetsky: “We didn’t protect Kamila, and it’s a fact of guilt for all of us. But I must exclude myself from the list of suspects in this story.”

Doctor of the Russian figure skating team at the Olympic Games in Beijing, Philipp Shvetsky, in an interview with TASS, talked about the reasons for filing a lawsuit against German journalist Hayo Zeppelt from the ARD channel, how the prohibited substance could have entered Kamila Valieva's...

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Vaitsekhovskaya's response:

“In a legal sense, it practically means shifting the blame onto the athlete.” Elena Vaitsekhovskaya on an interview with Dr. Philipp Shvetsky

Elena Vaitsekhovskaya commented on an interview with Dr. Philipp Shvetsky, the doctor of the Olympic figure skating team, regarding Kamila Valieva's case.

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I don't even remotely understand what on earth are they talking about. There were no problems with Valieva's tests during the Olympics. The one with the doping was from the Russian nationals 2 months before the Olympics. Have they found the doping in her Olympic probe as well now?

 

[Karen-W]

I don't even remotely understand what on earth are they talking about. There were no problems with Valieva's tests during the Olympics. The one with the doping was from the Russian nationals 2 months before the Olympics. Have they found the doping in her Olympic probe as well now?

The implication is that because all of her tests prior to and after RusNats (especially that 2022 Euros test) were clean then it cannot be due to intentional doping by Team Tutberidze or him or anyone else associated with the Russian sports machine.

 

[Lanie]

All this finger pointing and blaming is like the Spiderman meme

NOPE IT WAS THEM, THEY DID IT

ETERI DID IT

GRANDPA DID IT

 

[On My Own]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1688454410702376961

ETA: Google translate says IOC won't conduct reinvestigation.

 

[Wyliefan]

Machine translation of the above article:

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has announced that it will not reinvestigate the doping allegations against Adelina Sotnikova, gold medalist in women's singles figure skating at the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics.An official from the Korea Sports Council said, "The IOC sent an official letter to the Sports Council on the 4th, suggesting that Sotnikova's doping samples will not be retested."The IOC said in an official document, "Sotnikova was finally tested negative when she won the gold medal in 2014, and later tested positive when the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) re-examined it in 2017. Therefore, Sotnikova was not tested for doping. It is difficult to conduct a reinvestigation because there is currently no sufficient evidence that it did."

Sotnikova appeared on a Russian YouTube broadcast in early July and said, "I tested positive in a doping test in 2014." It caused controversy.As the scandal grew, the Korean Sports Association sent an official letter to the IOC at the end of last month asking whether to re-examine Sotnikova's samples during the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics in connection with the doping allegations.The IOC could have stripped Sotnikova of the gold medal if the IOC reinvestigated and identified the problem, but as the IOC announced that it would not reinvestigate, the possibility of Kim Yu-na, who was the silver medalist at the time, winning the gold medal was virtually eliminated.

 

[On My Own]

Sotnikova was finally tested negative when she won the gold medal in 2014, and later tested positive when the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) re-examined it in 2017. Therefore, Sotnikova was not tested for doping. It is difficult to conduct a reinvestigation because there is currently no sufficient evidence that it did.

Well this doesn't make any sense does it? So I added the official headline to my post, but am hoping someone soon posts a proper translation here or twitter.

 

[Debbie S]

So she tested positive but there is no evidence that she tested positive? Um...what?

 

[MacMadame]

So she tested positive but there is no evidence that she tested positive? Um...what?

Well, what we know happened is that she tested positive with the A sample and negative with the B. So I assume the machine translation is crap.

The real issue is not that she tested positive with her A sample. That has been known for ages. The actual issue is that her B sample had signs of possible tampering (also known for ages). So, if it was tampered with, whether it tested negative or positive is irrelevant. A tampered sample should be thrown out and her A sample results would stand.

However, this was all investigated at the time. Sotnikova's interview contained no new information. If she had said "I admit it. I was doping" or said she knows for a fact that her B sample was tampered with, or anything like that, that would be new information. But it's just her bringing up an old story. So of course it's not going to be re-investigated; there is nothing to add to the evidence they had at the time.

 

[ninjapirate]

Well, what we know happened is that she tested positive with the A sample and negative with the B. So I assume the machine translation is crap.

The real issue is not that she tested positive with her A sample. That has been known for ages. The actual issue is that her B sample had signs of possible tampering (also known for ages).

She never tested positive.

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) will not look into a recent doping admission by a Russian figure skater Adelina Sotnikova.

“Recalling the year 2014, when after some time they said that they found doping in my sample, and I was supposed to have a trial, and all of that was supposed to happen. But then I was acquitted because they opened a second sample, and everything was fine,” said the Olympic figure skating champion in an interview on the YouTube channel Tatarka FM.

“The IOC said Sotnikova had tested negative with her ‘A’ sample in 2014, and that it didn’t identify any anti-doping rule violation by Sotnikova during an extensive testing of Russian athletes in 2017,” the KSOC official said. “Now that the IOC has said Sotnikova never tested positive with her A sample, it will be difficult for us to lodge a complaint.”

“The IOC stated that Sotnikova had a negative result in Sample A in 2014, and that during extensive testing of Russian athletes in 2017, no violations of anti-doping rules were detected on her part.

Now that the IOC has stated that Sotnikova never had a positive test, it will be difficult for us to file a complaint,” said a representative of the Republic of Korea NOC.

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) will not look into a recent doping admission by a Russian figure skater Adelina Sotnikova

The IOC responded to a request from the South Korean Olympic Committee regarding Sotnikova's doping sample.

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[On My Own]

lol?

 

[MacMadame]

She never tested positive.

That's not what she said.

And not what was reported at the time. If she didn't test positive, no one would have looked at her B sample, either.

 

[ninjapirate]

That's not what she said.

And not what was reported at the time. If she didn't test positive, no one would have looked at her B sample, either.

They looked at all the bottles from Sochi for potential tampering. I'm unsure if they tested her B sample, but if they did it wasn't as a result of her testing positive on her A sample. It was a result of her being on a list of people who potentially had their samples swapped. And Rodchenkov personally testified that she did not have her sample switched.

 

[MacMadame]

They looked at all the bottles from Sochi for potential tampering. I'm unsure if they tested her B sample, but if they did it wasn't as a result of her testing positive on her A sample. It was a result of her being on a list of people who potentially had their samples swapped. And Rodchenkov personally testified that she did not have her sample switched.

You're nitpicking. Sotnikova said she tested positive.

 

[ninjapirate]

You're nitpicking. Sotnikova said she tested positive.

Sotnikova is a dingbat who in her own dumb way was trying to ingratiate herself with the local(Kazan) audience by bringing parallels between her past situation and Kamilas. There's no secret confession there. It's obvious she's referring back to accusation she had her samples swapped.

 

[kwanfan1818]

I thought Rodchenkov testified that she was never on the list to have her samples swapped.

 

[rfisher]

Sotnikova is a dingbat who in her own dumb way was trying to ingratiate herself with the local(Kazan) audience by bringing parallels between her past situation and Kamilas. There's no secret confession there. It's obvious she's referring back to accusation she had her samples swapped.

This. If you read her subsequent posts, it's clear she was referring to the accusation, not that she doped. She, like so many others, spoke before she thought. Or in this case, typed.

 

[Firedancer]

The US team has requested that they be able to have a representative sit in on the Valieva CAS hearing. They ask for Japan and Canada to be able to send a representative, as well.

https://x.com/cbrennansports/status/1694702900365185474?s=46&t=t-qfJxDjad9-j4B-GsMqGg

 

[On My Own]

I can't believe the URLs now say "x.com"...

 

[Ena Grins]

That's a very well-written letter. I have no idea if there's precedence for this kind of thing, but I hope they're granted a seat.

 

[On My Own]

Sotnikova is a dingbat who in her own dumb way was trying to ingratiate herself with the local(Kazan) audience by bringing parallels between her past situation and Kamilas.

This. If you read her subsequent posts, it's clear she was referring to the accusation, not that she doped. She, like so many others, spoke before she thought. Or in this case, typed.

Just to put my thoughts on this, after I've had time to digest it...

Yang Yun "admitted" to being 14 when she competed at Sydney on Chinese national TV several years later. She was investigated. Sure, insufficient evidence was found, but it still happened anyway.

Yang Yun (gymnast) - Wikipedia

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What is the difference? Why couldn't they at least conduct an investigation, given that the samples should still be there?

 

[On My Own]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1696925638018449711

(NOT for Brennan's text, but for her screenshot of the letter)