Royalty thread #15: A New Era

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Jenny said:
Doubtful. If he was on the flight out of Heathrow as reported, then he would have arrived around 6 or 7 pm LA time, then still had to get to the Santa Barbara area, about an hour and a half away (unless he took a helicopter lol, you never know), arriving hom close to 9 pm. If there was a birthday party it would have been long over, and Archie would probaby have been in bed.

Does get him there for first thing Sunday morning though, if they chose to make that the big day to celebrate Archie's birthday.
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The OP didn't say anything about a party. As for Archie being in bed, maybe or maybe not. If he has an earlier bed time, maybe on this occasion, he was able to stay up a little later for dad, who would've been able to put him to bed. Yes, at this age, birthdays are more for the parents but I see nothing wrong with a father wanting to get home in time to see his son on his birthday, especially if he was able to be there. And even if Archie were in bed, Harry was still able to see him on his birthday.
 
Or it may have been the best compromise that Harry and William and Charles could have agreed on.

I suspect no one wanted to spend much time with the others.
 
I don't know if Anne keeping her hat on thus blocking Harry was planned or not but I do know that both Harry & Meghan were blocked by a candle at QE11's funeral. Odd coincidence!

Charlotte is adorable but I hated her get-up at the coronation. She is much cuter with her hair down. IDK about her dress, it was covered by that cape. I loved her birthday photos.
 
To be clear I didn't mean to criticize Louis. I thought it was ridiculous to make a 5 yr old sit for 2 hours & expect him not to get bored. I thought it over about what I said about him yawning & I realized that adults don't cover their yawns anymore so why expect him to do so. I was brought up during a time that it was considered rude. Sorry to air my outdated expectations.
 
taf2002 said:
To be clear I didn't mean to criticize Louis. I thought it was ridiculous to make a 5 yr old sit for 2 hours & expect him not to get bored. I thought it over about what I said about him yawning & I realized that adults don't cover their yawns anymore so why expect him to do so. I was brought up during a time that it was considered rude. Sorry to air my outdated expectations.
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Bring out the smelling salts! A 5 year old yawned.
 
Karen-W said:
She also fell in love with Philip when she was quite young, and she was of a different generation, not to mention, divorce was NEVER an option for the woman who was Supreme Governor of the Church of England. It was a totally different dynamic between Elizabeth and Philip than what existed for Charles and Diana.

It's rather interesting to note that Philip also came from a broken home (though his parents never divorced, they led very separate lives), but he'd had the time to grow up and discover who HE was and live life in ways that 19-year-old Diana certainly hadn't before marriage. All in all, Charles and Diana were just a terribly matched pair and I can't imagine them ever marrying under any other circumstances but the ones they found themselves in back in 1980-81.
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The Queen was really young though herself when she married Phillip. 21? She also came up in a time of not social media and was a teenager during wartime.

People in general were encouraged to settle down at much younger years and grow up.

I think Phillip had a much better idea of what he was getting into he was royal himself. I also think he wanted a family.

He and Elizabeth knew each other longer too.

Diana had no clue
 
taf2002 said:
To be clear I didn't mean to criticize Louis. I thought it was ridiculous to make a 5 yr old sit for 2 hours & expect him not to get bored. I thought it over about what I said about him yawning & I realized that adults don't cover their yawns anymore so why expect him to do so. I was brought up during a time that it was considered rude. Sorry to air my outdated expectations.
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He wasn’t expected to sit for hours he was taken away by a nanny for part of the time. I thought he did really well and looked so nervous during the procession
 
Karen-W said:
She also fell in love with Philip when she was quite young, and she was of a different generation, not to mention, divorce was NEVER an option for the woman who was Supreme Governor of the Church of England. It was a totally different dynamic between Elizabeth and Philip than what existed for Charles and Diana.

It's rather interesting to note that Philip also came from a broken home (though his parents never divorced, they led very separate lives), but he'd had the time to grow up and discover who HE was and live life in ways that 19-year-old Diana certainly hadn't before marriage. All in all, Charles and Diana were just a terribly matched pair and I can't imagine them ever marrying under any other circumstances but the ones they found themselves in back in 1980-81.
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When we speak of "dysfunctional" families I think Philip could have had much to say. I recall reading as a young man his older sisters were off in Germany with their husbands to be, his father was in France (I believe) with his paramour and his mother was in an insane asylum so he felt he had no choice but to get on with it. On the positive side he had a good education and had served very courageously in the navy. His wardrobe was thread bare so he borrowed a kilt to take to Balmoral to meet the King and chose to curtsy rather than neck bow because that kilt was too short. I am sure they had challenges but Queen Elizabeth certainly gave her husband credit for the vital role he played "my strength and stay".
 
canbelto said:
Bring out the smelling salts! A 5 year old yawned.
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Without covering his mouth.

That part I found a bit surprising. I figured he would be taught about proper protocol from birth but it seems like the Waleses are letting their kids have a bit more freedom to be kids than prior generations.
 
MacMadame said:
Without covering his mouth.

That part I found a bit surprising. I figured he would be taught about proper protocol from birth but it seems like the Waleses are letting their kids have a bit more freedom to be kids than prior generations.
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nypost.com

Prince Charles bored at Queen Elizabeth’s 1953 coronation — like his kids, grandkids

King Charles is channeling grandson Prince Louis in a newly unearthed photo from Queen Elizabeth’s 1953 coronation ceremony.
nypost.com nypost.com

there is nothing new with this I think Louis did great
 
MacMadame said:
Without covering his mouth.

That part I found a bit surprising. I figured he would be taught about proper protocol from birth but it seems like the Waleses are letting their kids have a bit more freedom to be kids than prior generations.
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I didn't expect him to be taught from birth but even if he has been told to cover his mouth, he's at an age where he still needs to be reminded. At the same time, it wasn't the place where his parents could do that.

I think he portrayed normal behavior for a 5-year-old, I don't think any news outlets or tabloids need to call it cute or adorable or "steals the show". He was normal. (And probably envious of any of his cousins who didn't have to go).
 
I doubt Louis will ever hear the word spare from his parents the way Harry heard it from Charles. I hope he never has to hear it from anyone. I can't count how often I heard "I'll bet your parents wanted a boy" (after 2 older girls) from adults who should have known better. Ironic: 3 boys after me illustrated why you should be careful what you wish for.
 
taf2002 said:
I doubt Louis will ever hear the word spare from his parents the way Harry heard it from Charles. I hope he never has to hear it from anyone. I can't count how often I heard "I'll bet your parents wanted a boy" (after 2 older girls) from adults who should have known better. Ironic: 3 boys after me illustrated why you should be careful what you wish for.
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He won't. Charlotte is the "spare". Louis is just an extra.
 
marbri said:
He won't. Charlotte is the "spare". Louis is just an extra.
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Yes, due to the change in succession rules made in 2011 that removed male preference from that point forward, Charlotte is next in line after George. Louis is the first royal to be in a lower place than he would have under the pre-2011 rules.
 
Something tells me that this will never happen because UK will go republic before - probably during William's reign. I can't explain it but when I saw the coronation it felt overloaded, backwards and as if nobody needs this. So my guess is it will last one or two decades and then it's over.
 
marbri said:
He won't. Charlotte is the "spare". Louis is just an extra.
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I read that some time ago (within the last couple of years or so) William made a comment along the lines of "don't give her any ideas" about Kate and babies, suggesting she wouldn't be entirely opposed to a fourth. That sounds like all three are definitely wanted and the only people they would ever hear the word "spare" or "extra" from are not part of their immediate family.
 
ballettmaus said:
I read that some time ago (within the last couple of years or so) William made a comment along the lines of "don't give her any ideas" about Kate and babies, suggesting she wouldn't be entirely opposed to a fourth. That sounds like all three are definitely wanted and the only people they would ever hear the word "spare" or "extra" from are not part of their immediate family.
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Yeah, I wasn't suggesting they had their kids for any other reason. Just responding to someone who didn't want Louis to be called the spare.
 
Just think how much of your future in the BRF depended on how fast that single sperm swam upstream. Talk about winning the Gold Medal in swimming
 
I keep getting articles about Kate's anger to Camilla's restriction on how many people she could invite to the coronation. She was allowed only 4 family members: her parents, brother, sister. Her siblings weren't even allowed to bring their spouses while Camilla's entire family was present. Apparently neither William nor Kate bowed to Camilla when Charles & Camilla left the cathedral. I wonder how this will play out going forward.
 
taf2002 said:
I keep getting articles about Kate's anger to Camilla's restriction on how many people she could invite to the coronation. She was allowed only 4 family members: her parents, brother, sister. Her siblings weren't even allowed to bring their spouses while Camilla's entire family was present. Apparently neither William nor Kate bowed to Camilla when Charles & Camilla left the cathedral. I wonder how this will play out going forward.
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I have seen exactly zero articles about this. I guess we're reading different sources.
 
skategal said:
This is just one of several stories that pop up when you google it.

www.skynews.com.au

Growing royal rift led to Kate Middleton refusing to curtsey to Camilla

Queen Camilla has once again found herself at the centre of royal family drama but this time for her coronation antics, a royal expert has claimed.
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So one reporter says that there is an issue based on watching video of the coronation?

This is not remotely serious journalism.

(yes, I realize royal coverage doesn't exactly win Pulitzers :lol:)
 
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