Mad for Skating
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I need her to commentate all the pairs events ever
I don’t mind her commentary, but please, no more TSL! Give her her own channel to talk.
I need her to commentate all the pairs events ever
[Lubov & Charlie are] quite a team. I hope its not too many cooks in the kitchen, but I am very glad to Marie France and Guillaume doing the choreography. That will give them an edge right there, if they can handle it this early in their partnership.
They [P/J] remind me a bit of P/T in terms of style.
I haven't heard that Sui's injuries are continuing to hamper her, or will cause chronic problems.
TAT in her, ahem, heyday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxJJsROoVE4 Tarasova with Georgi Proskurin 1965 Euros pairs lp
Interesting to look back at how they skated then, hmmm... Historical vids show a bit of the sport's evolution
Thanks for finding... I always thought TAT was an ice dancer.
TAT in her, ahem, heyday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxJJsROoVE4 Tarasova with Georgi Proskurin 1965 Euros pairs lp
Interesting to look back at how they skated then, hmmm... Historical vids show a bit of the sport's evolution
Ah, good old Grandma TAT! Thanks for digging this up!
But you ain’t seen nothing till you’ve seen Moskvina/Mishin: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GvgetX767jA
OH LOVE!
Keep em coming!!!!!
Look at them! 10s across the board Sweetie!!!!
One thing that I find interesting in watching these videos from the early to mid 60s are the use of the arms..... Ive watched all the videos from USA 61 Nats and others and we held our arms straight out...like we are using them for balance.. I see it in M/M video as well.. how the arms are just held straight out a lot of the time.
Love it!
Lordy, now long was a free program back then? Even 2 SBS spins in it.
So did Moskvina invent the Biellman then?
But you ain’t seen nothing till you’ve seen Moskvina/Mishin: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GvgetX767jA
Now, let me pull out something from years later that's quite memorable, but I'd forgotten just how good this U.S. team was in their time:
https://youtu.be/RWWWPqMkLp0?t=137
So did Moskvina invent the Biellman then?
I wouldn't bet on Sui/Han not being ready for Beijing, but Sui has had some surgeries and a lot of rehab over the past few years. Maybe she will be turning a corner to the point of being healed and stronger. However, until Sui's health is fully proven to be stable, there is a sense of vulnerability usually overcome by fierce will, of course.
It was obvious that the absence of retired and inactive teams this season had the judges quickly pushing up the scores of teams like Peng/Jin and M-T/M. IMO, both of those teams, while good, still have a bit of work to do before being given full credit for having that extra something that sets them apart. Both are still trying to discover and solidify their styles and enhance what makes them unique. So they are still works-in-progress despite the rise in their scores this season.
As for the Russians, I think T/M need to step it up and prove that they are more than just picture-perfect technicians coddled by the judges whether or not they skate with any excitement, and whether or not they skate clean. I don't see Z/E becoming more interesting or exciting as a team, ever. Just skating clean and technically pleasing but bland performances, IMO, is not enough. Perhaps Boikova/Koslovski will at least begin to surpass Z/E, fingers-crossed, next season. I can see B/K also surpassing T/M too, if politics don't get in the way.
As far as I'm concerned, James/Cipres have been leading with the je ne sais quoi factor, with other teams being inspired and attempting to emulate either their moves, music, costumes, and/or ice dance edge factor. Everyone has been taking notice, so that's not a secret.
I was shocked by how much I enjoyed the Tarasova skate. Usually with the older routines, I want to appreciate them but the sport was just so different then that it is a challenge, but Tarasova's was really good, and different than I would have expected from her, very light (I would have thought there would be more sturm und drang) and really just delightful. It's not the kind of thing I tend to like, b/c I love the drama, so it surprised me that I found it so appealing.
Now, let me pull out something from years later that's quite memorable, but I'd forgotten just how good this U.S. team was in their time:
https://youtu.be/RWWWPqMkLp0?t=137
Very athletic, fast, exciting lifts and unique moves. Biggest problem: they did not get along well. Still, a memorable team, even though they were rough around the edges. This was a good long program for them, choreographed by Philip Mills.
I love the lunge by the female into a throw 2-axel.
Other cool moves include their pull Arabians (made famous before them by Babilonia/Gardner), and their lifts (which teams didn't hold for long back then). Still, this team has difficult lifts that weren't being done by everyone at that time. The horizontal lift position we have seen making a comeback recently. The headbanger dismount is so cool. And there were some other interesting dismounts they performed that were unusual back then. Please someone incorporate the headbanger lift dismount into a program today. It is allowable.
And those too.
Personally, I'd love to see Calalang/Johnson try the lunge lift into a throw 2-axel
I want to give credit to @floskate for uploading the video!
I also thought TAT had been an ice dancer since she choreographed for ice dancers. But then the sport of pairs figure skating became so much more athletic since the time TAT skated pairs. What she and her partner were doing back then seems a bit closer to ice dance than not these days.
Moskvina is such a Queen, I love watching these videos even though they’re such poor quality LOL.
I don’t know who did the first Biellmann, but Moskvina is rocking it!
This just pisses me off beyond belief. I mean that film is 60 years old!! What do you expect it to look like? I hunt high and low for this stuff, spending a LOT of money acquiring footage and yet I get so many ignorant comments like this. Honestly don't know why I bother.
Note to @Japanfan. It's probably too late to fix now. But your #316 and #318 posts contain botched and/or missing open and closed quotes. And so some of my text to which you were responding appear as if they are your comments. And some of your comments are framed as part of my remarks. Please be more careful when you are quoting and responding to my posts. Thank you.
This just pisses me off beyond belief. I mean that film is 60 years old!! What do you expect it to look like? I hunt high and low for this stuff, spending a LOT of money acquiring footage and yet I get so many ignorant comments like this. Honestly don't know why I bother.
I'm not convinced that they can be consistently strong throughout a whole season.
I just recently reread Christine Brennan’s book Edge of Glory (for the first time since I was a very angry little boy 20 years ago who took a black sharpie and crossed out all the photos of Tara ) and FWIW Christine says that Moskvina was the first to do the spin, but she’s fine with Denise getting the credit
Their split was posted in the Japanese news thread on April 8th (thanks to @rosewood for the translated summary of the Japanese news article): https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...ason-news-updates.103938/page-10#post-5571847It’s probably posted in a different thread somewhere, but Suzuki/Kihara split
Annika Hocke & Ruben Blommaert have ended their partnership