Nebelhorn Trophy 2024 - Ice Dance RD & FD

[Karen-W]

F/G with a 4 point margin in the PCS score? Really?

The perks of being the clear #2 Euro team v the unclear #4 North American team (depending on how FBSoer and GreenP look this season).

I'm annoyed by the GOEs thrown out like candy for FearGib.

 

[peibeck]

Fear/Gibson are such one-trick pop ponies and just downright boring anymore.

CarPom's "Carmen" is good, but please burn those ugly costumes, especially Anthony's. Who thought going on the ice looking like a terrible sweat stain was a good idea?

Z/K's program builds dramatically in a great way, even if the music does nothing for me. Now ditch the cartwheels.

 

[Wyliefan]

Don Jose is overshadowed in the opera, which is why he kills her in the end.

But Anthony's Don Jose was no wuss, and I liked that. It took him a moment to get into it, but before long he was being fierce right back at her. Not quite as fierce as she was, but fairly fierce.

 

[kwanfan1818]

I think C/P are clearly US #2 after last season, and that Green/Parsons, whom I prefer, have a long way to catch up, with B/S, if healthy, and/or Z/K it appears, more likely to topple a healthy G/P. Especially if G/P’s programs are as weak as last years’, while Carmen sounds like a winner. I’m hoping C/P, by this start, show that last season was no fluke and get rewarded for what they do.

 

[Rukia]

I've only managed to see z/k and cpom

I love the beginning of z/k's program. It's sets a beautiful atmosphere and has lovely movement. Then the music changes and all that goes away. Also the cartwheels were kind of not great to me lol.

obviously i love cpom. What they are doing is so complex. It's like ice dance!! plus some drama.

 

[BlueRidge]

I actually had high expectations for CPom for Carmen because I was sure they were perfect for it and they more than met them. I love the opera Carmen and they really put it on the ice.

For Z&K I had no particular expectations at all and I was awed how that kind of program worked for them. It was beautiful.

I'm a bit depressed for Taschlers right now but I think that FD is a good one for them.

I enjoyed Fear & Gibson, we know they are going to do a crowd pleaser and I think this one is a really good one. The crowd certainly did!

 

[kwanfan1818]

But Anthony's Don Jose was no wuss, and I liked that.

He's not a wuss so much as tedious. Don Jose, not Ponomarenko.

 

[Frau Muller]

Fear/Gibson are such one-trick pop ponies and just downright boring anymore.

Carlos's "Carmen" is good, but please burn those ugly costumes, especially Anthony's. Who thought going on the ice looking like a terrible sweat stain was a good idea?

Z/K's program builds dramatically in a great way, even if the music does nothing for me. Now ditch the cartwheels.

ITA. That costume does not flatter Anthony Ponomarenko.

 

[Karen-W]

ITA. That costume does not flatter Anthony Ponomarenko.

I'm indifferent to Anthony's costume. It does not flatter him, however it does not NOT flatter him. It's just sort of there. I think they're aiming for a generic "soldier" vibe but they'd be better off with something that seems a bit more realistic.

I'd suggest something more along the lines of #3 or #4 in this colored sketch.

Uniforms of the Spanish Army, 1800s. Catalan light infantryman 1, artilleryman 2, grenadiers 3, other soldiers 4. Infanteria Spagnola. Handcoloured copperplate engraving by Verico after Giulio Ferrario in his Costumes Ancient and Modern of the People

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This page has a bunch of colored sketches of the Spanish Romana Division uniforms from the 19th century - https://www.napoleon-series.org/military-info/organization/Spain/c_Suhrspanish.html
This one is more generic for all of the Spanish Dragoon Regiments - https://www.littlewars.se/spanish/dragoons.html

And this one is about the Spanish military uniforms from the Peninsular Wars - https://balagan.info/spanish-units-at-the-battle-of-albuera

Surely Mathieu Caron could have found some inspiration and done more than what they did for Anthony. Hopefully they are working on something better for the GP.

 

[Wyliefan]

I saw a video of the Smart/Dieck fall from a different angle, and I'm not at all sure she didn't hit her head. It was so close to the ice in that lift to begin with, she could hardly avoid it. Hope she's okay.

 

[jenny12]

We went nuts here for Carmen. Incredible storytelling. That was another Standing O.

F/G, fun but should be third.

Agreed. I strongly preferred both American teams. Overall, American ice dance is in really great shape so far.

 

[peibeck]

I'm indifferent to Anthony's costume. It does not flatter him, however it does not NOT flatter him. It's just sort of there. I think they're aiming for a generic "soldier" vibe but they'd be better off with something that seems a bit more realistic.

I don't know that they need to go with something more "realistic," so much as something that doesn't look so odd. The stark white collar and buttons down the center when the rest of the shirt looks like he's been stranded on a desert island for a year... Pretty head scratching to me.

 

[leilaofpaper]

I saw a video of the Smart/Dieck fall from a different angle, and I'm not at all sure she didn't hit her head. It was so close to the ice in that lift to begin with, she could hardly avoid it. Hope she's okay.

Olivia also doesn’t need to hit her head to get concussed - hope she is okay.