Kolyada Withdrawn from Olympics, Replaced by Semenenko

taz'smum said:
Before the 2018 Olympics, the skaters flew to a pre-Olympics camp in Japan to acclimatize. I guess that was the same logic with this camp - to get the skaters into the same time zone as the games.
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Right. Beijing is just one hour ahead of Krasnoyarsk. Athletes from other sports are gathering in other cities in Siberia, such as Irkutsk.
 
Hedwig said:
that is what I was thinking. The infection came from Mishin's team to Kolyada - odds are they were picked up at Euros (or at some other place where the team member was blasé about protection) and gave it to Kolyada.

With Omicron I am so much more willing to give everyone a free pass - it is just spreading like wildfire and even at the most cautious you could have bad luck. But seeing Mishin (who I respect a lot) and his mask wearing at Euros again made my blood boil - and now Kolyada has to miss the Olympics.

co*vid sucks so so so so much.
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Russian society is so lax about YKW in general that I don't think you can really attribute it as likely being from one particular event.
 
Icetalavista said:
I didn't realize the camp site was close-ish to Beijing ... is it? The time zone issue would make sense
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It's just over halfway between Moscow and Beijing. Much closer to the final destination, for sure, but without taking the necessary precautions to make this a complete bubble, there was always going to be a risk that at least one athlete caught the crud from locals before they left.
 
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Colonel Green said:
Russian society is so lax about YKW in general that I don't think you can really attribute it as likely being from one particular event.
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This. I honestly don’t know how I managed to avoid covid on my 5 trips to Russia in the last 12 months. People just don’t care :wall:

I have a major death in my soul about Kolyada and I hope for a miracle that no more Russian skaters get it in the coming days and weeks.

Re Step/Bukin, Vaitsekhvskaya suggested in her telegram post that they will go to Beijing directly from Moscow.
 
pointbleu said:
I missed it… but that’s a good news .
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They adjusted the policy 2 days ago. The compromise they reached is that those between 35 and 40 will be threated like the close contacts. In practice it means they can compete but they will have a single room, they won't eat with others, they will have specific vehicles to get them to sports venues. And they will be tested twice a day for one week.
 
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Is this excerpt from a 1/21/22 Associated Press article re. how "A few unvaccinated athletes will be able to compete without quarantining" [in Beijing] accurate?
The IOC said a panel chosen by the Olympic body and China will rule on exemptions for medical or legal reasons. Examples include people who are allergic to vaccine ingredients, or who take medicines which suppress the immune system. Olympic organizers use the laws in an athlete’s country of origin as a guide to decide on exemptions.
Russian officials have estimated seven athletes — including some figure skaters — will compete unvaccinated because they are under 18 and weren’t eligible for any vaccine at home until recently.
A version of the Sputnik vaccine received government approval in November for use in children between the ages of 12 and 17 but is not yet widely available. Russia doesn’t let people under 18 receive other vaccines.
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pointbleu said:
People well healed from ********* might test positive up to 6 months afterwards, even more so by the Chinese standards of PCR tests being set at 40 and not 30 or 35 in most other countries.
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Andrea82 said:
They already lowered it to 35 a few days ago.
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New CBC Sports article/discussion today (Jan. 25) titled New CV-19 testing threshold for Beijing Games only raises more questions: https://tinyurl.com/2p8c56p4
On the latest episode of CBC Sports video series Bring It In, host Morgan Campbell is joined by panellists Meghan McPeak and Dave Zirin to discuss how the new testing threshold for the Beijing Olympics could help more athletes get to the Games, but also the new questions it raises and what that could mean for athletes upon arrival.
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I am sad to hear about Kolyada. I wish him the best in recovery. He is one of the athletes I worried about prior to the vaccine because of his major sinus issues previously.

So hard to see athletes lose their dreams due to incredibly bad timing. With Kolyada, in particular, hard to see this after he came back strong after such a tough go in the middle of the quadrennium.
 
MacMadame said:
A lot of people have been carping on how causal a lot of the Russian skating community has been about the crud. Having so many positives like this at this time does seem to suggest they were correct about this.
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The Omicron wave is hitting Russia. It hadn't taken off there just prior to Europeans, but now the country is having daily records again.
 
4rkidz said:
I believe that is the case, hence my concern for unvaccinated (3 Russian female skaters).
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I think it is all a crapshoot. I haven't seen any clear, concise information that any of this shit works. I just listened to 3 people who were vaccinated, boosted, and still got Covid.
We believed them for so long (whomever the "they" were) and yet, here we are. They kept saying just do this, and around that corner up ahead....it will all be great. Not so much.
My family and friends joke that I am a ridiculous rule follower....and I am. I have met very few rules I did not follow. And now.............You have got to be kidding me. In the AM---------wear a mask------------noon--------get boosted-----------5:00 forget the booster----------10:00 who knows. So how in the world do you know what to do.

A few things for sure....I would not get on a plane. I would not go to China....you couldn't pay me enough. But who knows if that is a good stand. My sister just flew from SF to Hawaii....and all is well. Now, she is crazy about getting the virus.....but flying to Hawaii was ok......cause "Well, you have to live your life". Logic at work.
If anyone had THE true and correct answer, please let me know.
 
Sylvia said:
Is this excerpt from a 1/21/22 Associated Press article re. how "A few unvaccinated athletes will be able to compete without quarantining" [in Beijing] accurate?
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I think they do have to quarantine, at least some of them. There is an article on FSU somewhere about an athlete who came to Beijing 21 days early so they would let her compete without being vaccinated.
 
MacMadame said:
I think they do have to quarantine, at least some of them. There is an article on FSU somewhere about an athlete who came to Beijing 21 days early so they would let her compete without being vaccinated.
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Yes, the excerpt is from the same AP article that's linked in the pre-Olympics news thread in the Other Sports forum here: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...-news-articles-etc.108615/page-4#post-6174665
I was wondering about the underage vaccination policy in Russia.
 
AxelAnnie said:
I think it is all a crapshoot. I haven't seen any clear, concise information that any of this shit works. I just listened to 3 people who were vaccinated, boosted, and still got *********.
We believed them for so long (whomever the "they" were) and yet, here we are. They kept saying just do this, and around that corner up ahead....it will all be great. Not so much.
My family and friends joke that I am a ridiculous rule follower....and I am. I have met very few rules I did not follow. And now.............You have got to be kidding me. In the AM---------wear a mask------------noon--------get boosted-----------5:00 forget the booster----------10:00 who knows. So how in the world do you know what to do.

A few things for sure....I would not get on a plane. I would not go to China....you couldn't pay me enough. But who knows if that is a good stand. My sister just flew from SF to Hawaii....and all is well. Now, she is crazy about getting the *****.....but flying to Hawaii was ok......cause "Well, you have to live your life". Logic at work.
If anyone had THE true and correct answer, please let me know.
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I don’t know what they told you but it has always been about getting less sick /not the severe form so you don’t end in the hospital. I know we’ve had enough of all of this and I truly hope no more Russian Olympians will get it. But gosh, they do have to follow the basic rules to help them.
 
Before the vaccines went into testing, the medical folks were saying a 50% efficacy rate would be required for approval. We got much, much more than that against the original strain. Over time and with the development of new variants (the likelihood of which we were warned about from the beginning of the pandemic), vaccine efficacy against infections has declined, but vaccination plus booster still have high efficacy against serious disease. This has been explained over and over and over in the media. I think lots of people have tuned out. Or are frustrated. Or something.
 
Colonel Green said:
Russian society is so lax about YKW in general that I don't think you can really attribute it as likely being from one particular event.
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yes, that is why I wrote (even in the text you quoted ;-) ) that it was either from Euros or from somewhere else by the coaches because they did not take precautions seriously as one could see at Euros again.
 
Coco said:
This seems ... harsh.

What's the big deal with just taking him out of the team event, letting him prepare and then travel on his own, if possible?
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I agree 100% and an American skier tested positive recently and I'm still sure she's going to the Olympics.

Whatever happened to resting for five days and then picking up life again?

I don't know if Misha is asymptomatic but after the 5-day quarantine if an athlete is still asymptomatic and testing negative why can't they play their sport?
 
Since there is Coronavirus with some of the skaters in the Siberian city why don't they just send the rest of the skater Zone to Beijing early
To acclimate to the bubble life?

Wasn't team Georgia training in the same city and arena recently?
 
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