Just call me Harry. (Everything Harry & Meghan)

[miffy]

Apparently H&M are in England and went to see the Queen I am really pleased to hear that.

 

[Barbara Manatee]

Nice! I hope they had a lovely reunion.

 

[Lemonade20]

I'm super surprised, but glad they took the time to stop by to see them.

 

[MacMadame]

Here's an article about it:

Harry and Meghan arrive in Netherlands for Invictus Games

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have made their first public appearance together in Europe since quitting as senior working royals more than two years ago.The co

www.thetimes.co.uk

And now they are in the Netherlands for the Invictus Games

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Attend First Event of the Invictus Games — See Her All-White Outfit!

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry started their trip to the Netherlands for the 2022 Invictus Games by attending a friends and family welcome reception.

people.com

 

[Judy]

They couldn't have had a big fancy wedding even if they wanted to. They were under a lot of pressure to keep it low-key because they (or the Royal family/household) didn't want to be seen as flaunting Charles' infidelity. Also, Charles may be the head of the Church of England when he becomes king, and IIRC the Church hierarchy was iffy about letting its future head remarry in the church, when some parts of the CoE don't allow church ceremonies for second marriages.

What they had in the church was a blessing of their marriage, not a marriage ceremony. They had a civil ceremony at the local registry office, and the church ceremony was to bless the civil marriage.

If I remember correctly I think the Queen didn’t attend.

 

[miffy]

If I remember correctly I think the Queen didn’t attend.

I think she went to the reception but missed the ceremony?

 

[Parsley Sage]

I think she went to the reception but missed the ceremony?

She attended the Blessing at St George's Chapel but not the registry office ceremony.

 

[DFJ]

Here's an article about it:

Harry and Meghan arrive in Netherlands for Invictus Games

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have made their first public appearance together in Europe since quitting as senior working royals more than two years ago.The co

www.thetimes.co.uk

And now they are in the Netherlands for the Invictus Games

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Attend First Event of the Invictus Games — See Her All-White Outfit!

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry started their trip to the Netherlands for the 2022 Invictus Games by attending a friends and family welcome reception.

people.com

Okay, shallow comment. That is a kick *ss white suit.

 

[Amy L]

Apparently the American and Ukrainian teams marched in together during the opening ceremony. ?? ??

Here they are with the delegates from both counties

And with the whole American contingent

Meghan's suit is awesome, but I also have to say, Senator Duckworth can rock a leather jacket.

 

[once_upon]

If I remember correctly I think the Queen didn’t attend.

As I understood it, she didn't attend because she was/is the head of the Anglian Church of England and something about Charles divorce from Diana, divorce not acceptable and remarriage or something along those lines?

 

[Judy]

As I understood it, she didn't attend because she was/is the head of the Anglian Church of England and something about Charles divorce from Diana, divorce not acceptable and remarriage or something along those lines?

Something like that. It didn’t mean she wasn’t happy about the marriage.

I still love a big Royal wedding though but they don’t happen often.

 

[Lemonade20]

It was a civil ceremony and because he's next in line, he would have to have her support before he can marry her. Camille has come a long way and she is the perfect match for him. It's sad they had to wait so long to be together officially

 

[MacMadame]

More about Tina Brown's book on Harry & Meghan.

Review | Tina Brown's Royal Revelations Haven't Left Anyone, Especially Meghan Markle

The British Royal Family's Great Meghan Markle Experiment lasted 20 months from her marriage to Prince Harry in May 2018 until January 2020, when the couple

worldnationnews.com

(It was originally in the WaPo but I'm almost out of gifting.)

 

[overedge]

There was an excerpt from Tina Brown's book in the (Toronto) Globe and Mail today. The headline promised "jaw-dropping revelations" but those must have been in the rest of the book Apparently Toronto was nowhere-ville until a branch of Soho House opened there.

 

[AxelAnnie]

It was a civil ceremony and because he's next in line, he would have to have her support before he can marry her. Camille has come a long way and she is the perfect match for him. It's sad they had to wait so long to be together officially

Let's review... issue was Camilla's divorce...that was at issue.....oh silly me..Camilla was a divorced woman.
Itty bitty issue given that Charles was going to be head of the Anglican Church. Oh and.......Charles continued his affair with Camilla right through his marriage to Diana.

 

[overedge]

As I understood it, she didn't attend because she was/is the head of the Anglian Church of England and something about Charles divorce from Diana, divorce not acceptable and remarriage or something along those lines?

Theoretically, divorced people aren't allowed to be remarried in an Anglican church ceremony. Although there are many liberal ministers that will perform those ceremonies. But since the Queen is the head of the CoE, she couldn't (or wouldn't) attend a church wedding for Charles and Camilla. What she attended in the chapel was a blessing of the civil ceremony which was the actual wedding.

Note to @AxelAnnie the issue in this case was the bride and groom both being divorced, not who had affairs with who, or when.

 

[Coco]

So funny to me, since wasn't the Anglican church founded so Henry VIII could get divorced?

 

[overedge]

So funny to me, since wasn't the Anglican church founded so Henry VIII could get divorced?

Indeed it was.

But as I said, not every church or parish strictly enforces this rule.

 

[MacMadame]

So funny to me, since wasn't the Anglican church founded so Henry VIII could get divorced?

That's always been very to me. I assume something changed at some point after the original founding?

 

[Lemonade20]

Anyone thinks Harry is spiralling out of control? That comment about "protecting the Queen".... interesting. It sounds like she gave some bad news to him personally and he's having trouble accepting it.

 

[overedge]

Anyone thinks Harry is spiralling out of control? That comment about "protecting the Queen".... interesting. It sounds like she gave some bad news to him personally and he's having trouble accepting it.

Not sure he's spiraling - he's always been hyper-concerned with security and protection.

 

[once_upon]

Anyone thinks Harry is spiralling out of control? That comment about "protecting the Queen".... interesting. It sounds like she gave some bad news to him personally and he's having trouble accepting it.

You really hate Meghan and Harry don't you? Or like to speculate on his relationship with his grandmother.

I suspect that not seeing Grandmother in person, and realizing that she is getting older closer to death that concerns him. But that's speculation on my part.

 

[MLIS]

If reports are to be believed, Harry clashed with several members of the Queen’s inner circle, both in the lead up to his wedding and again as they were planning their withdrawal from royal duties. Her private secretary and her dresser/closest aide, in particular, both of whom apparently blocked his direct access to his grandmother on more than one occasion. So he may have been referring to that … he definitely inherited his mother’s dislike and distrust of the “men in grey suits” and courtiers. Especially now with covid and the small bubble of aides staying with her now, they have a lot of influence. If I was her grandchild, I would also be concerned about how much influence Andrew has, he is apparently waging quite the campaign to return to public life, visits her every day, etc. I can see how Harry would be genuinely concerned about the very small group of people who have access to the Queen these days, especially as she grows more vulnerable and isolated with her age/health/mobility and the loss of Prince Philip. But as is often the case with Harry, any valid point he might have is lost in the optics of how he expresses it. After blowing up the family, giving that Oprah interview as his grandfather was dying, not visiting his grandmother for two years, not attending the memorial service over some trumped up excuse about security, playing games about whether he and his family will attend her jubilee, it’s a bit rich for him to give a high profile interview painting himself as her special confidant and protector. His motives are suspect, too, frankly.

 

[puglover]

So, let me get this straight. After the Oprah interview and his other comments he sees himself as the Queen's protector? It was, after all, her family and her life's work that were attacked. I have no doubt he remains a beloved grandson but I find it hard to believe she is turning to him for help and advice.

 

[Judy]

I think a lot of royal "rules" are incredibly stupid. Like there's no reason royal women HAVE to wear nylons at all times (even if wearing sneakers), and no reason they can't eat pasta or garlic. It's just a rule that exists for unknown reasons.

Well the garlic thing is kinda understandable. Even common folk (like me) when dealing with public in their jobs just either avoid it or take a few strong mints. It was usually avoid it at lunch lol.

Go wild at dinner though lol.

I truly believe nylons were created by an evil male ?.

 

[skategal]

What’s weird society they live in where you can’t go to your son’s wedding and people keep your grandkids from you even if you are the Queen.

If I was Queen, they’d all be getting a blast from me.

 

[canbelto]

Well the garlic thing is kinda understandable. Even common folk (like me) when dealing with public in their jobs just either avoid it or take a few strong mints. It was usually avoid it at lunch lol.

Go wild at dinner though lol.

I truly believe nylons were created by an evil male ?.

The Queen apparently also doesn't allow anyone in the BRF to eat shellfish, pasta, or any carb-heavy foods like bread and potatoes.

 

[Barbara Manatee]

All these "rules" are just click bait nonsense. When they eat with the Queen, she picks the menu, but the rest of the time the royals can eat what they want.

 

[Lemonade20]

I know she recommended that the family don't eat shellfish when travelling because she was concerned about food poisoning. I can understand the no-garlic rule! Also, she is apparently a fast eater, so when she's done, everyone has to stop eating (put your fork down). Some funny rules there about food, but when you're the Queen..

 

[Lemonade20]

So, let me get this straight. After the Oprah interview and his other comments he sees himself as the Queen's protector? It was, after all, her family and her life's work that were attacked. I have no doubt he remains a beloved grandson but I find it hard to believe she is turning to him for help and advice.

Completely agree, I think Harry is mentally disturbed. His wife is no better. Even Prince Andrew (who's no shining star) knows how to behave within the BRF and he has never disrespected the Queen. And yes, I'm not a fan of H&M based on what they have done to the BRF. I'm sorry, but if they want to leave, LEAVE. Stop dragging names in the mud and complaining about "racist" comments.