Just call me Harry. (Everything Harry & Meghan)

[twilla]

FSU existed and was thriving long before FSW and Adrian imploded. A lot of FSW refugees may have just discovered it then when their regular joint imploded but I recall the migration all too well.

Anyway back to Harry and Meghan ?‍

Thank you for the clarification. It's been so long ago I could not remember the details. I'm shocked I remembered Adrian's name correctly. So I guess I'm an FSW refugee. Please don't hold it against me...lol

 

[Judy]

Thank you for the clarification. It's been so long ago I could not remember the details. I'm shocked I remembered Adrian's name correctly. So I guess I'm an FSW refugee. Please don't hold it against me...lol

Same here .. soooo long ago(?). How was FSU started?

 

[MacMadame]

For the haters.

‘Emotionally needy’ Harry taken over by Meghan; Sussexes ‘addicted to drama,’ Tina Brown says

Famed editor and author Tina Brown says in a new interview: 'Meghan seems to answer some huge need in Harry ... and I do question how it will end.'

dailynews.ansneed.com

 

[Lemonade20]

For the haters.

‘Emotionally needy’ Harry taken over by Meghan; Sussexes ‘addicted to drama,’ Tina Brown says

Famed editor and author Tina Brown says in a new interview: 'Meghan seems to answer some huge need in Harry ... and I do question how it will end.'

dailynews.ansneed.com

That was the worst-written article ever, did Meghan write it? So much word salad.

 

[MLIS]

I think it must have been translated into another language and then translated back into English.

 

[antmanb]

I'll bet Meghan wrote it in a different language and then translated badly back again on purpose because she's to blame for everything.

 

[taf2002]

For the haters.

‘Emotionally needy’ Harry taken over by Meghan; Sussexes ‘addicted to drama,’ Tina Brown says

Famed editor and author Tina Brown says in a new interview: 'Meghan seems to answer some huge need in Harry ... and I do question how it will end.'

dailynews.ansneed.com

Wha..? I didn't read it all but what I did read didn't have a coherent sentence.

 

[MacMadame]

It's the only version I could find that wasn't behind a paywall. This is the original (and why my local paper is writing about these guys is completely beyond me):

‘Emotionally needy’ Harry taken over by Meghan; Sussexes ‘addicted to drama,’ Tina Brown says

Famed editor and author Tina Brown says in a new interview: ‘Meghan seems to answer some huge need in Harry … and I do question how it will end.’

www.mercurynews.com

It was based on an article in The Telegraph that wanted me to register to see:

Tina Brown: ‘Diana would have loathed the idea of a Queen Camilla… but we’re 25 years on’

www.telegraph.co.uk

The gist:
Tina Brown wrote a book about them and is out there shilling it. She says:

After their experiences with Princess Di, the royal family vowed to never have a person admitted to their ranks who would cause that kind of drama again. Then came Meghan Markle. Oops.

Harry is emotionally needy and Meghan fulfills that need in him so that she has "taken him over." (Whatever that means)

Meghan doesn't understand why you'd build up such an enormous platform as the Royals have and then not use it. To her, a platform means clout and clout is to be used.

The Oprah interview has caused a permanent rift in the family.

Some quotes:

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex [could have been a real asset to the Royal Family but] are impatient people who are “addicted to drama.” Harry, more charismatic than his older brother, Prince William, also is a “very insecure, fragile, hot-headed guy who never really dealt with the death of his mother and then he’s confronted by a slightly chaotic life.”

“William has accepted Camilla in terms of what she means to his father. He’s been grown-up about it,” Brown said. “Harry, on the other hand, can’t stand Camilla, he doesn’t want Camilla to be queen, he’s very angry that it’s happening. He has not made his peace with it and he probably never will.”

“William and Kate calm each other down a lot; their marriage works very well in that way. In the Sussex marriage, they wind each other up and it’s Us Against the World, and that’s a disaster.”

 

[miffy]

I wish they wouldn’t say that stuff about him supposedly hating poor Camilla. Hopefully it’s just another lie.
They always seemed to get on fine. I don’t believe Harry wouldn’t at least like how happy she has made his dad.

I have to admit I ‘hated’ CPB in the 90’s (based off what was in the tabloids of course) but I have totally warmed to her now! She seems nice and genuine and down to earth.

 

[Lemonade20]

I wish they wouldn’t say that stuff about him supposedly hating poor Camilla. Hopefully it’s just another lie.
They always seemed to get on fine. I don’t believe Harry wouldn’t at least like how happy she has made his dad.

I have to admit I ‘hated’ CPB in the 90’s (based off what was in the tabloids of course) but I have totally warmed to her now! She seems nice and genuine and down to earth.

I agree, I wasn't sure about Camille, but when she married Prince Charles, wow! Their wedding was absolutely perfect and showed the world they don't need a huge fancy wedding. Her dress was gorgeous and they look so happy together. She has become one of my favourite royals.

 

[kwanfan1818]

The Charles/Diana marriage never reflected their best selves, but the Charles/Camilla marriage seems like it has.

I know I'd be pissed off if the title rules changed for my father's second wife, even if she had been my beloved wetnurse/nanny. But that doesn't mean I'd have to feel any differently towards her. Harry can hate the decision, but still feel positively towards Camilla.

 

[Parsley Sage]

The Charles/Diana marriage never reflected their best selves, but the Charles/Camilla marriage seems like it has.

I know I'd be pissed off if the title rules changed for my father's second wife, even if she had been my beloved wetnurse/nanny. But that doesn't mean I'd have to feel any differently towards her. Harry can hate the decision, but still feel positively towards Camilla.

When Charles and Camilla married, it was announced that she would be known as Princess Consort when Charles became King but it wasn't a rule.

 

[Lemonade20]

When Charles and Camilla married, it was announced that she would be known as Princess Consort when Charles became King but it wasn't a rule.

I thought they changed it so she can be Queen consort?

 

[taf2002]

I thought they changed it so she can be Queen consort?

They did later. Who knows what the next decision will be? They seem to make the rules as they go along. FTR I'm not in favor of it. Some people can live down their worst life event, some can't. To me she will always be a shameless adulterous homewrecker. And Charles is/was a heartless sh*t. It's like Kim K trying to keep knowledge of her sex tape from her kids. You can't un-ring the bell.

 

[once_upon]

You know Charles became prince because his mother's egg became fertilized and implanted into her uterus. (And one can continue back to the beginning of any conquering winner names king/lord of all - except in those cases it was a small little sperm). Plus he was first born. It was a mere chance of egg meets sperm and the laws of nature made an embroyo that grew to a fetus that survived to live birth.

Because of that chance happening, and England no longer under threat of war/changing monarchies every several hundreds of years - he will be named King. Whoever this zygote turned King marries becomes special in the family, and maybe gets to be Queen.

It is a rather bizarre set of circumstances that make one King or Queen. Titles bestowed upon them by people who are a product of similar bizarre set of circumstances.

 

[Parsley Sage]

I thought they changed it so she can be Queen consort?

As the wife of the King, she is entitled to be Queen Consort just as Queen Elizabeth (the Queen Mother), Queen Mary and Queen Alexandra were before her. Currently she is the Princess of Wales but doesn't use that title.

 

[MLIS]

Yeah, they didn't change any rules. At the time they married, they announced she would "be known as" the Princess Consort, but that didn't mean she wouldn't be queen ... she's the wife of the king, ergo, she's the queen. It was only a question of what they would call her officially. As Parsley Sage said, she's the Princess of Wales now, as the wife of the Prince of Wales. They don't call her that, but she is. Now they're just saying the quiet part out loud, which is that Charles has always intended for her to be queen, and called that, and they just decided to give it time so the memory of Diana didn't loom as large in everyone's brains. Everyone behaved badly, Charles and Camilla and Diana and many others, but it was a long time ago, Diana should be allowed to rest in peace, and if the members of the family can come to terms with Camilla's place in Charles' life, what's it to me? It's becoming more and more obvious that Harry has a lot of unresolved trauma from his mother's death and that's genuinely very sad and I'm sorry for him. I hope he finds peace. I do think, as an outsider who doesn't know any of these people at all, that the quote from Tina Brown above that says that William and Kate calm each other down and Harry and Meghan wind each other up seems to be really insightful.

 

[screech]

I agree, I wasn't sure about Camille, but when she married Prince Charles, wow! Their wedding was absolutely perfect and showed the world they don't need a huge fancy wedding. Her dress was gorgeous and they look so happy together. She has become one of my favourite royals.

I remember reading somewhere a few years ago that apparently she's one of the most pleasant of the royals, and has become a favourite royal to those she's actually interacted with.

 

[MacMadame]

I remember reading somewhere a few years ago that apparently she's one of the most pleasant of the royals, and has become a favourite royal to those she's actually interacted with.

I think she never expected to be in this position and it's made her a bit humble. Which is refreshing for a royal.

 

[skategal]

The best Royals are always those who marry into the family.

 

[kwanfan1818]

I was talking about "rules" figuratively. Maybe I should have said "moved the goal posts."

 

[jadingirl]

When you're destined to be King you can change/bend/create all the rules.
First he couldn't get a divorce.
Then he divorced
But he would never remarry
Then he remarried Camilla but don't worry you don't have to call her Queen
Now she is to be known as the Queen consort

It's funny and absurd all the time.
I really hope when the QUeen dies Canada opts out of the commonwealth

 

[wickedwitch]

When you're destined to be King you can change/bend/create all the rules.
First he couldn't get a divorce.
Then he divorced
But he would never remarry
Then he remarried Camilla but don't worry you don't have to call her Queen
Now she is to be known as the Queen consort

It's funny and absurd all the time.
I really hope when the QUeen dies Canada opts out of the commonwealth

Yeah, but those were all stupid rules.

Royalty gets away a ton of stuff they shouldn't, but I'm far more bothered when rules are bent when they commit felonies versus when they're allowed to get divorced despite the Church not allowing that.

I'm an American, so it's been pretty ingrained in me that royalty is ridiculous and should not exist, but this is one of the worst examples as to why. Charles and Camilla and their relationship doesn't make the list of the top 1000 reasons of monarchies are terrible.

 

[skategal]

Yeah, but those were all stupid rules.

Royalty gets away a ton of stuff they shouldn't, but I'm far more bothered when rules are bent when they commit felonies versus when they're allowed to get divorced despite the Church not allowing that.

I'm an American, so it's been pretty ingrained in me that royalty is ridiculous and should not exist, but this is one of the worst examples as to why. Charles and Camilla and their relationship doesn't make the list of the top 1000 reasons of monarchies are terrible.

It might not be in the top 1000 reasons why the monarchy is terrible, but it’s just another illustration of why it is.

 

[jadingirl]

Yes I know that
I was just commenting on the Charles/Camilla thing

 

[kedrin]

It might not be in the top 1000 reasons why the monarchy is terrible, but it’s just another illustration of why it is.

I'm not even sure it would be ON my list of why the monarchy is terrible. The rules about it, on the other hand....

 

[canbelto]

I think a lot of royal "rules" are incredibly stupid. Like there's no reason royal women HAVE to wear nylons at all times (even if wearing sneakers), and no reason they can't eat pasta or garlic. It's just a rule that exists for unknown reasons.

 

[Parsley Sage]

I think a lot of royal "rules" are incredibly stupid. Like there's no reason royal women HAVE to wear nylons at all times (even if wearing sneakers), and no reason they can't eat pasta or garlic. It's just a rule that exists for unknown reasons.

I don't think these are actual "rules". Just because they were in some article on some website titled "these are the rules royal women must follow" doesn't mean they are actually rules.

I have heard that the Queen doesn't like to eat garlic at a meal where she is going to be meeting/conversing with a bunch of people during/after. That's just being considerate.

 

[skategal]

I heard somewhere that the ladies aren’t supposed to wear dark nail polish.

Judging from their nail polish choices, I’d say that one is probably true.

 

[overedge]

I agree, I wasn't sure about Camille, but when she married Prince Charles, wow! Their wedding was absolutely perfect and showed the world they don't need a huge fancy wedding.

They couldn't have had a big fancy wedding even if they wanted to. They were under a lot of pressure to keep it low-key because they (or the Royal family/household) didn't want to be seen as flaunting Charles' infidelity. Also, Charles may be the head of the Church of England when he becomes king, and IIRC the Church hierarchy was iffy about letting its future head remarry in the church, when some parts of the CoE don't allow church ceremonies for second marriages.

What they had in the church was a blessing of their marriage, not a marriage ceremony. They had a civil ceremony at the local registry office, and the church ceremony was to bless the civil marriage.