I, Tonya

Yazmeen said:
Happy for Allison for winning for a great portrayal.

But really, aside from a great story about "class," what about the woman who was attacked and injured? Oh, that's right, she doesn't matter anymore. Sorry, I get the kudos for this movie and I plan to see it, but trying to turn Tonya into this misunderstood seeming "hero" is getting to be a bit much. And if you haven't read already, Tonya is getting back into shape and skating again so she can regain the spotlight. Which she really doesn't deserve.
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Nobody discounts Nancy and the horrific attack on her. This is just a movie about the other side of the story, which people didn't really hear about. This is a story about Tonya. I mean, in the movie Monster (for which Charlize Theron won her Oscar), the point of view of Aileen Wuornos, who murdered 7 men is shown. It's not about the men, it's about Aileen's story.

There is nothing wrong with Tonya's story being told. She did not shop around the rights to her story - they came to her. When stories couldn't be corroborated, they went with different points of view, but still telling Tonya's story, and not portraying her as an innocent victim.

The truth of the matter is that it is an extremely well-acted movie about horrible events. Nobody is saying that Tonya is the beacon of wonderful behaviour, but it is her story, so she has every right to be a part of its celebration, no matter our thoughts on her as a person.
 
All we've heard about in this story is Tonya's side. Every few years they do documentaries where she participates, she does interviews, and shares her side(s) so many times that people can keep up with all of her inconsistencies in the past 20 years. All we hear about Nancy is that she's a stuck up ice princess who was favored beyond belief to the detriment of literally poor put-upon Tonya.
 
There seems to be much confusion.

People, here, are wearing black to unify women from their sexual predators (usually male). Plain and simple.

Also Tonya didn't get a life sentence in jail and also capital punishment thus enabling her to attend the Globes.

Tonya has been banned from USFSA because of her involvement of the horrific act. But she hasn't been banned from going to the Globes, grocery store or being out in public with her son.

Im quite sure this story would have been told in some capacity whether the incident happened or not. The incident is not the focus of "I, Tonya."
 
VIETgrlTerifa said:
All we've heard about in this story is Tonya's side. Every few years they do documentaries where she participates, she does interviews, and shares her side(s) so many times that people can keep up with all of her inconsistencies in the past 20 years. All we hear about Nancy is that she's a stuck up ice princess who was favored beyond belief to the detriment of literally poor put-upon Tonya.
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Nancy is not the most articulate soul in the world, nor has she ever been comfortable on camera. This enabled Tonya to grab all the airtime and control the narrative. To this day, Tonya will go on any talk show that will have her, while Nancy (understandably) wants to leave the past behind.
 
AngieNikodinovLove said:
There seems to be much confusion.

People, here, are wearing black to unify women from their sexual predators (usually male). Plain and simple.

Also Tonya didn't get a life sentence in jail and also capital punishment thus enabling her to attend the Globes.

Tonya has been banned from USFSA because of her involvement of the horrific act. But she hasn't been banned from going to the Globes, grocery store or being out in public with her son.

Im quite sure this story would have been told in some capacity whether the incident happened or not. The incident is not the focus of "I, Tonya."
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I get that - but Tonya Harding is being turned into a star again and celebrated as a victim, a feminist hero (or anti-hero), while in the midst of this, finally admitting she at least knew "something was going on" before Nancy was attacked. And yes, I know the wearing of black is mainly against sexual abuse against women in Hollywood by male predators. But it's also focusing on abuse, and the abuse of the victim in the attack is being conveniently swept under the rug. Yes, Tonya was abused. But so was Nancy. And while the "incident" isn't the focus, come on, it's the only damn reason that anyone would have focused on Tonya for a movie in the first place.

I have no problem with the movie, I plan to see it. But I'm getting ticked off at the revisionist history that seems to be turning Tonya in the main victim here and acting like she should be celebrated when she was involved in the attack of her fellow competitor. It's especially shameful in the wake of US Nationals and the upcoming Olympics. Tonya is free to do whatever the hell she wants, but I'll be damned if I'm going to celebrate her after what she did 22 years ago. And I agree that it's crap that this Golden Globe ceremony is a major symbol against abuse while celebrating Tonya and the abusive incident she was involved in, whatever that capacity was.

And VIETgrlTerifa, sorry, I found it through another site and can't find the Twitter link again, sorry. I stumbled onto it earlier.
 
ks777 said:
yeah wish she wasn't invited.
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The sad part is that those involved in the movie will probably exploit the hell out of her throughout award season for their own benefit and then forget about her. And she seems to think this will make her a star again:

"Harding has also been working hard at getting back in shape and has revealed she’s skating again in preparation for being back in the spotlight." http://people.com/movies/golden-globes-2018-tonya-harding-i-tonya/
 
Yazmeen said:
Food for thought, a Twitter post on the Globes:

"Nancy Kerrigan was assaulted. And there's a room of people wearing black to stand up for women's rights and laughing with Tonya Harding. #GoldenGlobes"
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Not surprised at all. Hollywood is full of hypocrites, who turn a blind eye when it suits them, champion a so called cause when its seemingly popular and hold some major double standards. Their users and abusers to the extreme and probably the most out of touch with reality group of people out there (save the religious nutjobs). They make kindergartners look positively mature. (why isn't there a throw up smiley on this site :shuffle:)
 
Look, Tonya had a past that probably made her a terrible person, and I sympathize with that. But that doesn't make her any less of a terrible person. I don't know why they're celebrating her here. Well, other than she's the only reason this movie existed - if not for the whack there'd be no story to tell about Tonya.

Although, I do find it hilarious that USFSA's favorite network (NBC) is now featuring someone USFSA hates: Tonya. Especially on a night where for some reason NBC paid to have Johnny and Tara flown in from Nationals to watch the Golden Globes.
 
Nancy's had a lot of things go her way after the 1994 Olympics. She married her agent, she had 3 kids, a financially comfortable life, endorsements etc..
On the other hand, Tonya's had a very bad life. I guess that's Karma. Maybe the universe feels like she has paid her karmic debt, so she's getting a few nice things now. If I were her, I'd ride this gravy train until it runs out.
 
Willin said:
Although, I do find it hilarious that USFSA's favorite network (NBC) is now featuring someone USFSA hates: Tonya. Especially on a night where for some reason NBC paid to have Johnny and Tara flown in from Nationals to watch the Golden Globes.
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:lol:
 
jenniferlyon said:
Nancy is not the most articulate soul in the world, nor has she ever been comfortable on camera. This enabled Tonya to grab all the airtime and control the narrative. To this day, Tonya will go on any talk show that will have her, while Nancy (understandably) wants to leave the past behind.
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Nancy was featured just as much in the 20-year anniversary thing that aired during the Sochi Olympics, and she presented herself well. She also came off fine on camera on Dancing with the Stars.
 
That's true, but all people talk about in Tonya and the rival 30 for 30 documentary. Tonya is just more compelling and a much better story. So they let her speak because she's intriguing.
 
VIETgrlTerifa said:
That's true, but all people talk about in Tonya and the rival 30 for 30 documentary. Tonya is just more compelling and a much better story. So they let her speak because she's intriguing.
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because people really want to know what the **** her and the people around her were thinking before, during and after. And 95% (that's generous) makes not a lick of sense so they let them talk even more. Nancy's side is completely straight forward, not much to tell except "damn it hurt," and "what in the world did I do to deserve this?" Nancy doesn't beg for the attention and Tonya is the type of trainwreck the media love to focus on
 
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Yeah, by us already enamored by the story. Not Joe Blow public that only saw the headlines and hasn’t and probably wouldn’t bother watching the docs. Film is a very powerful medium.
 
tylersf said:
Nancy's had a lot of things go her way after the 1994 Olympics. She married her agent, she had 3 kids, a financially comfortable life, endorsements etc..
On the other hand, Tonya's had a very bad life. I guess that's Karma. Maybe the universe feels like she has paid her karmic debt, so she's getting a few nice things now. If I were her, I'd ride this gravy train until it runs out.
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not really. Her dad was murdered by her own brother.... I wouldn't call it a comfortable life.
 
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