From Russia with Love [#35]: Winter 2019

There was an attempt to start a new skating federation in 2001 (don't know how long it had been in the planning stages prior to that and IIFC, it was to be called World Skating Federation). Advocates for the new federation were promoting it at Vancouver Worlds.

Something did stop them. I don't know what, but someone else here might.

Sort of like the USFL in the 1980s, but they were not in direct competition with the NFL. They were a Spring league. They didn’t survive long, but I think their reasons were financial. I think the bigger an organization the more likely they are to fight off the challenge.

If the politics keep banning Russia from the Olympics, may be there should be an alternative where we could watch many of the top skaters in the world.
 
I decided to check what we can find about this word: Πίνδος ("pindos"). :)
Yes, according to the article from wiki this word comes from Greece. It seems it has nothing to do with "a rude word for gays".
It is said, that it was a rude word for Greeks: Greeks from Pind were known as the poorest ones, almost with no education. It is also said it has negative sences in Greek: "mud", "a pauper"...
I agree, that it is a rude word for Americans now, but not more than that - as far as I see in the article:

It is interesting, that the words which were translated as "a Russian patriot" are rude too. It is something like "a crazy Russian patriot" ("fanatic"?, "die-hard"?), so the text says something like this:
"If I were a crazy Russian patriot, I would be celebrating the victory over (hated) Americans"

Maybe the word "pindos" seems ruder than it is. I live in Russia, but I didn't know the etymology of this word. So even Russians can think, that this word has a meaning which it doesn't have. :)
From what I found in 5 minutes reading Google, "pindos" was first used by the Russian soldiers in Kosovo describing the American soldiers. Allegedly this word somehow means "penguin" in Serbian, and the American soldiers who carried all the ammunition due to insurance demands, moved and looked kind of like penguins. Attempts to translate "penguin" to Serbian didn't result in an approval of this version, though.

That said, this word would have never became popular if it didn't sound more rude to the Russian ear than it actually is. So TAHbKA's interpretation is probably shared by the majority of Russians, including the journalist who wrote the article. And in the existing connotation, I agree, it's kind of unacceptable to use it in the written press, similarly to many derogatory terms existing in English for other nations, list of which was graciously provided by PRLady :lol:

As for "vatnik" as in "crazy Russian patriot", I know exactly where it came from. It's a meme originating in a crude caricature of a Russian redneck-type permanently drunk uneducated peasant who repeats all the pro-state propaganda from the TV, drawn as this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telogreika

This is the original caricature:

While this is definitely a derogatory term as well, it's been somewhat embraced by the Kremlin-bots and probably some overly enthusiastic Russian "patriots". So its usage is somewhat more acceptable, although personally I would restrain myself from using it as well.
 
That said, this word would have never became popular if it didn't sound more rude to the Russian ear than it actually is. So TAHbKA's interpretation is probably shared by the majority of Russians, including the journalist who wrote the article.

You say: "probably", don't you?

Maybe rain, maybe snow...
Maybe yes or maybe no...

I'm not going to judge what is unacceptable, when we start with "probably".
 
From what I found in 5 minutes reading Google, "pindos" was first used by the Russian soldiers in Kosovo describing the American soldiers. Allegedly this word somehow means "penguin" in Serbian, and the American soldiers who carried all the ammunition due to insurance demands, moved and looked kind of like penguins. Attempts to translate "penguin" to Serbian didn't result in an approval of this version, though.
Andrey, "pendos/pindos" is used in Russia as a rude version of what was used in 60's, 70's and into 80's - "damn Yankee". It's a fact and it is documented, and the word did come from greek back in the days, as a derogatory term for "resident of a region - Pindus/Pindos valley" who were considered to be 'barbarians" or "the plebs".

Borrowed from Greek πίνδος (píndos). The modern sense (“a Yank”) originated in the late 1990s as military slang among Russian peacekeepers in Bosnia and Kosovo.
 
Will Mukhametzianova/Mironov be competing at Russian senior nationals? Really enjoyed their FS at the JGPF!
I think they said in the interview after JGPF that they would skip senior nationals and concentrate on preparation for junior nationals. I can understand that the junior nationals are more important for them at this stage. They want to be in top three to be sent to junior worlds. I think Panfilova/Rylov will probably be in top three, and based on the results throughout the season, Akhanteva/Kolesov too. Mukhametzianova/Mironov have a good chance to grab the third spot, based on how they skated at this last competition, but there is a few more pairs who could beat them and grab the spot instead. Kostiukovich/Ialin, Artemeva/Nazarychev and Sobinina/Volodin are all in the running. (Balabanova/Sviatchenko did only one junior Russian cup so they won’t be at junior nationals and no junior worlds for them).
 
New Article On Alena Kostornaia

To translate, go to settings in google chrome and press translate

Part of the article reads: "At the end of last season, Alena grew by 7 centimeters. Under the stress of the growth spurt, she sustained a cracked tibia. As a result, she missed the end of the season, including the junior world championship. However, the injury completely healed, and she is again able to produce the triple axel. Nevertheless, upon return from injury, Alena was worried about going for the triple axel. But when Trusova and Shcherbakova were landing quads in training every day, Alena knew she had to go for the triple axel. Gradually, over time, her worries subsided and the triple axel returned."
 
New Article On Alena Kostornaia

To translate, go to settings in google chrome and press translate
small fyi: this article is a "summary" of few of her latest interviews and comments, with an "editorial flavor" of the author, who is in places trying to be funny and give the story (in a nice way) a humorous flavor. lots of idioms, conversational teen language, and "local symbolism".
 
Tamara Moskvina received a “Man of an era in sports” award yesterday
 
New Article On Alena Kostornaia

To translate, go to settings in google chrome and press translate

Part of the article reads: "At the end of last season, Alena grew by 7 centimeters. Under the stress of the growth spurt, she sustained a cracked tibia. As a result, she missed the end of the season, including the junior world championship. However, the injury completely healed, and she is again able to produce the triple axel. Nevertheless, upon return from injury, Alena was worried about going for the triple axel. But when Trusova and Shcherbakova were landing quads in training every day, Alena knew she had to go for the triple axel. Gradually, over time, her worries subsided and the triple axel returned."

I wonder if she is also training quads?
 
Exclusive interview and sensational confession from Alina Zagitova for Channel 1 today (21:00 local time)

Sensational confession? I wonder what that's all about.
 
You are retiring from the sport?
Zagitova: no, but I will not participate the nationals in Krasnoyarsk, but let me explain that I will not expect to be sent without the internal competitions to the Europeans/Worlds
Vremia: you will not compete this season
Zagitova: indeed, but I will participate the shows, I will keep practicing and think it's a good thing, I will be finding myself and reinventing myself, learning new elements, new entrances to the jumps, I remain with my coaches with whom I made such a great journey, am so grateful to all my fans, my family, my federation - we all achieved it together
Vremia: are you stopping because you lack motivation?
Zagitova: think because I have everything in my life and you have to be hungry for something hence I want to get that feeling back - to want to go out there and compete. Guess the athletes who have been there would understand me - when I started practicing after the Olympics - doing the new programmes, it's so hard and I wanted to stop so badly, but I understood I liked it, it's a mixed feeling, I can't explain what I felt, but it was a really hard time for me. This season was the same, my coaches supported me, they found the right words to motivate me
 
I even promised myself and wrote myself a letter of an obligation that I will do my best to skate well and do all I can to skate well. I think the Federation has it. I kept my promise.
Vremia: why not write such a letter for the nationals?
Zagitova: no, I keep my promises, and right now am not ready to compete at the Nationals
Vremia: and Europeans? You realize that now someone will say you made such a decision because you lost the GPF and you couldn't keep the competitiong against your team mates?
Zagitova: that I won everything possible, every possible competition, I think proved everything. I won the Worlds after the Olympics, and that's it
Vremia: why aren't you attempting the quads, that your team mates do?
Zagitova: Because you have to learn them I guess when you are younger. It's such a sport that gets younger and I had to learn them before the Olympics. But back then the risk to get injured was too high and I might had missed the Olympics. What I had was enough for the Olympics and after.. well, after I went through the puberty and the coordination was gone. At that moment I just tried to keep the jumps I already had and was just trying to keep what I had
Vremia: you are saying you are stopping competing, yet not retiring. It's not because you are having a misunderstanding with your coaching team?
Zagitova: not at all. We went through so much together, they are my sports family. We know what hardships and happy moments we went through and I will never leave them, we'll keep working together.
Vremia: this season you skated the SP to Me Voi by Yasmin Levi the Israeli singer.
more to come
 

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