Eric Radford and Vanessa James to compete in pairs together for Canada

I would guess it was the easiest and laziest way to change a program that was not well received at all.
And yet why go half way?

I mean, if you are changing the music anyway, pick something better than “Dull, Mopey People.” :confused:

Eta: I see what they did now. It was always Shiny Happy People but the second version had more tinkly piano music in there to disguise the dirge.

Lipstick on a pig…… :shuffle:
 
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I believe her when she says she didn't know. I am kind of sure she was shielded by everyone around them at the time. I am also kind of sure that she was "advised" to stay quiet by legal counsels.
And their partenership was over the minute it went public.
Stop shaming her for something she had 0 control over.
I also know lots of people who thought Morgan had changed and who fell from their chairs when the story broke.
Even if we believe she was unaware of it leading up to the 2018 Olympics (which is highly unlikely but let's assume), she was definitely aware of it after the games.
More than that, Leading up to 2019/20 season She and Cipres announced they were taking a season off and will be returning to competition aiming for 2022 Olympics only weeks before the allegations against him were made public and long after the Safe Sport investigation started. In fact, even before the news broke I was asked by a friend who lives in Canada if I heard the rumors about Cipres being a predator and since I didn't I just shrugged it off and assumed it was another weird rumor from the skating community on Twitter. If so many people knew, there's no possible way that Vanessa didn't.
She is not judged for what Cipres did, she is judged for her actions that included: continuing skating with him even after it became public at the rink and a Safe Sport investigation has started, posting (and later deleting) a story in support of Cipres, remaining silent and never sharing even a word of support for those abused, only commenting about it after teaming up with Radford and even then giving the lame "I had no idea" excuse (which again, she have known about it months before it became public) followed by "I'm a good person" and "it has nothing to do with me".
I can understand her struggles in 2018 on a human level given the fact that the Olympics were her dream and she wasn't a part of ruining that dream, but there are no excuses for her skating with him all through 2018/19 and then announcing that they are taking a season off and will return for the 2022 Olympics when she knew the news was about to break. Her actions are inexcusable and she deserves all the criticism she is getting for her actions.
 
posting (and later deleting) a story in support of Cipres,
This is the one thing that is an absolute fact and it is enough for me to no longer support her as a skater.

Chiding someone would be actively saying something to someone else. I'm not sure that liking a tweet someone else wrote is chiding the other person.
Eh, I think you can chide someone in writing. I'm just not sure Meagan's tweets and comments rise to the level of chiding though. Perhaps she occasionally throws some subtle shade though.
 
According to right-wingers, it's what woke people do to people or ideas they don't like. Innocent ideas like racism, sexism, transphobia and anything else they would like to get away with pushing.
A lot of people got 'cancelled' under a false pretense as it turns out like Johnny Depp. Meanwhile his former GF, Amber is continuing her stellar career in Hollywood despite being caught on being a pathological liar.
Yes it is a real phenomenon in a couple of countries in the World, woke-ism has truly caused some real disorder.
 
A lot of people got 'cancelled' under a false pretense as it turns out like Johnny Depp. Meanwhile his former GF, Amber is continuing her stellar career in Hollywood despite being caught on being a pathological liar.
Yes it is a real phenomenon in a couple of countries in the World, woke-ism has truly caused some real disorder.
This is a good example of how cancel culture is not really a thing and how conservative people just use it to rail against the left. To wit:

(1) Johnny Depp lost maybe one job because of the accusations, but continued to be hired and continues to be rich.
(2) Amber Heard on the other hand doesn't have a "stellar career" and has also continued her B actress career

So Depp wasn't really canceled and now that Heard has been shown to be a liar, her career most likely is in the dumpster. Time will tell.
 
This is a good example of how cancel culture is not really a thing and how conservative people just use it to rail against the left. To wit:

(1) Johnny Depp lost maybe one job because of the accusations, but continued to be hired and continues to be rich.
(2) Amber Heard on the other hand doesn't have a "stellar career" and has also continued her B actress career

So Depp wasn't really canceled and now that Heard has been shown to be a liar, her career most likely is in the dumpster. Time will tell.
Johnny lost the Pirates franchise (he will not be included in the future films of the series) as well as the Fantastic Beasts franchise (he's replaced for the final 3 of the 5 films in the series). He was also supposed to be 'The Invisible Man' in a new 'universe' of films and has been let go from that. How many other films has he been overlooked for or let go from, solely due to these allegations?

Amber remains a L'Oreal spokesperson, getting constant airtime. There were calls for her to be let go from the Aquaman series due to the allegations again her (over one million people signed the change.org petition), however she remains, the producer saying they never even considered making the movie without her. Interestingly, both Aquaman and Fantastic Beasts are produced by Warner Brothers, so it's clear where their loyalties lie.
 
If you ask the average person who Amber Heard is, they will either not know or will know her as "that woman who accused Johnny Depp". She is not an A-lister like Depp is.
 
A lot of people got 'cancelled' under a false pretense as it turns out like Johnny Depp. Meanwhile his former GF, Amber is continuing her stellar career in Hollywood despite being caught on being a pathological liar.
Yes it is a real phenomenon in a couple of countries in the World, woke-ism has truly caused some real disorder.

This is a good example of how cancel culture is not really a thing and how conservative people just use it to rail against the left. To wit:

(1) Johnny Depp lost maybe one job because of the accusations, but continued to be hired and continues to be rich.
(2) Amber Heard on the other hand doesn't have a "stellar career" and has also continued her B actress career

So Depp wasn't really canceled and now that Heard has been shown to be a liar, her career most likely is in the dumpster. Time will tell.
FWIW, it seems like a mutually abusive relationship. The thing is Amber was never that famous so it was easy to cut her out, but we've never heard she's bad to work with. OTOH Johnny had other problems (being drunk/unprofessional on set, being unable to remember his lines) that made him very hard to work with, so it's understandable that studios would use any excuse to not work with him regardless of cancel culture. So I don't think he got cancelled for the allegations as much as he got cancelled for being a general a-hole no one wanted to work with.

Cipres seems more like Amber in that he was cancelled solely be the scandal. But unlike Amber, who had valuable endorsements and the allegations could be excused as part of a bad relationship on both sides, Cipres had more serious allegations against him (against a child who was innocent, not an adult who allegedly abused her back) and less of a reason to protect him (less ad $$$). I don't consider these cases equal or comparable at all.
 
FWIW, it seems like a mutually abusive relationship. The thing is Amber was never that famous so it was easy to cut her out, but we've never heard she's bad to work with. OTOH Johnny had other problems (being drunk/unprofessional on set, being unable


Omgggggg

I thought you were talking about Amber Glenn and Johnny Weir, what is going on in this thread… I had to go back and reread everything
 
More than that, Leading up to 2019/20 season She and Cipres announced they were taking a season off and will be returning to competition aiming for 2022 Olympics only weeks before the allegations against him were made public and long after the Safe Sport investigation ….


I had actually forgotten that odd announcement from her and Cipres about taking a season off but coming back later. At the time, it didn’t seem to make much sense, because she and Cipres were then at the height of their career. Yup, she must have known by then, if not earlier. And they were probably hoping it would blow over/go away by 2022.
 
Even if we believe she was unaware of it leading up to the 2018 Olympics (which is highly unlikely but let's assume), she was definitely aware of it after the games.
More than that, Leading up to 2019/20 season She and Cipres announced they were taking a season off and will be returning to competition aiming for 2022 Olympics only weeks before the allegations against him were made public and long after the Safe Sport investigation started. In fact, even before the news broke I was asked by a friend who lives in Canada if I heard the rumors about Cipres being a predator and since I didn't I just shrugged it off and assumed it was another weird rumor from the skating community on Twitter. If so many people knew, there's no possible way that Vanessa didn't.
She is not judged for what Cipres did, she is judged for her actions that included: continuing skating with him even after it became public at the rink and a Safe Sport investigation has started, posting (and later deleting) a story in support of Cipres, remaining silent and never sharing even a word of support for those abused, only commenting about it after teaming up with Radford and even then giving the lame "I had no idea" excuse (which again, she have known about it months before it became public) followed by "I'm a good person" and "it has nothing to do with me".
I can understand her struggles in 2018 on a human level given the fact that the Olympics were her dream and she wasn't a part of ruining that dream, but there are no excuses for her skating with him all through 2018/19 and then announcing that they are taking a season off and will return for the 2022 Olympics when she knew the news was about to break. Her actions are inexcusable and she deserves all the criticism she is getting for her actions.
As I said, when she found out, the partenership was ended.
And with DG at the help at the FFSG back then, you really should stop assuming anything about what she was able to say or ordered to not say.
 
Or John Kerr would be a good choice - he did the Sound of Silence programme for them. He’s worked with other pairs too but other than Aliona and Bruno I am completely blanking on who.
John and his sister Sinead choreographed Chelsea Liu and Danny O'Shea's FS. It's a marvelous work of fluidity and uses L/O's wonderful natural harmony ... and if you watch slow motion, every touch and movement ends with a circle.

This is not the time when they had the accident. It's Los Angeles club comp. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcU7xUxpODw


Off Topic!!! :gallopin1 I couldn't help it. :)
 
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According to right-wingers, it's what woke people do to people or ideas they don't like. Innocent ideas like racism, sexism, transphobia and anything else they would like to get away with pushing.
When in the real world it's the right-wingers who rush to "cancel" anyone who punctures their version of reality, like censoring those in their own party for stating facts. It also manifests itself when a government wipes the name of a public figure from social media and search engines because that figure voiced criticism of the regime.
 
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This is a good example of how cancel culture is not really a thing and how conservative people just use it to rail against the left. To wit:

(1) Johnny Depp lost maybe one job because of the accusations, but continued to be hired and continues to be rich.
(2) Amber Heard on the other hand doesn't have a "stellar career" and has also continued her B actress career

So Depp wasn't really canceled and now that Heard has been shown to be a liar, her career most likely is in the dumpster. Time will tell.
I am not even a conservative person. Why did you jump into such conclusions about me?! And scoring fake virtue signalling points is a thing that is bothersome.

And no, Heard is not a 'B actress' - if she was - she'd be playing in 'Sharknado' franchise od sth.
 
I am not even a conservative person. Why did you jump into such conclusions about me?! And scoring fake virtue signalling points is a thing that is bothersome.

And no, Heard is not a 'B actress' - if she was - she'd be playing in 'Sharknado' franchise od sth.
Sharknado is clearly in the C actress level. Well, the shark gets B actor billing, but not the humans. :D

A-list actresses - Margot Robbie, Scarlett Johansson, Gal Gadot, Jennifer Lawrence, Emily Blunt...
Heard gets into that group only if grade inflation in Hollywood is as bad as it is in our high schools.:)
 
I agree, Amber Heard is definitely not A list. Think huge names like Jennifer Aniston, Meryl Streep, even the Kardashians. Amber is more of a B list. She's been in a lot of movies but is largely forgettable
 
I agree, Amber Heard is definitely not A list. Think huge names like Jennifer Aniston, Meryl Streep, even the Kardashians. Amber is more of a B list. She's been in a lot of movies but is largely forgettable
She's been in stuff that I've seen and didn't even realize. She's not getting the leading lady parts.

I am not even a conservative person.
I didn't actually say you were. I can see how it came off that way. I was talking more about how when conservatives don't like something it's expressing their opinions or boycotting but when liberals don't like something, it's cancel culture. And also that famous rich men rarely stay "canceled". Harvey Weinstein is the only one I can think of and he had to do some seriously bad shit to stay canceled.

Amber Heard looks like Piper Gilles.
Piper is prettier.
 
I agree, Amber Heard is definitely not A list. Think huge names like Jennifer Aniston, Meryl Streep, even the Kardashians. Amber is more of a B list. She's been in a lot of movies but is largely forgettable
Jennifer is slipping off the A list, what was her last headliner movie? And her rival Angelina had a nothing part in a dud movie most recently.

I think of Cate Blanchett as the queen of the A list with Meryl as empress. Olivia Coleman and Frances McDormond as perennial Best Actress nominees. Zendaya and Hailee Steinfeldt as the cool girls.

Admittedly I’m old but Amber Heard is a nobody in the lineup.
 
Jennifer is slipping off the A list, what was her last headliner movie? And her rival Angelina had a nothing part in a dud movie most recently.

I think of Cate Blanchett as the queen of the A list with Meryl as empress. Olivia Coleman and Frances McDormond as perennial Best Actress nominees. Zendaya and Hailee Steinfeldt as the cool girls.

Admittedly I’m old but Amber Heard is a nobody in the lineup.
Jennifer will always be an A lister, she's made so many great movies and people still love her. Angelina is a ? because of the divorce drama with another A lister.

Back to the original thread! It's interesting they haven't invited Eric & Vanessa to SOI, will there be another pairs to replace Meghan?
 
Jennifer will always be an A lister, she's made so many great movies and people still love her. Angelina is a ? because of the divorce drama with another A lister.

Back to the original thread! It's interesting they haven't invited Eric & Vanessa to SOI, will there be another pairs to replace Meghan?
Isn't MT/M taking their place? IIRC correctly Megan and Eric was the only pair team they had in recent series.
 
Lady Gaga is currently the only actress who actually brings people to the theatres these days due to her presence, not because her films happens to fit within a popular genre. Cate Blanchett just starred in a movie that made two dollars.
 

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