I wonder if Jeremy Barrett knew anything about this.
So when was the last time a male skater or coach was alone with a student and as a result got in trouble when they didn't do anything?Men have to be so careful. Like never being alone with a student.
Yes, men have to be careful. As in, being careful not to be harassers and careful not to send dick pics to underage girls. The problem is not men being alone with students and being unjustly accused, which is what you seem to be implying.
Sorry I’m confused. Whose abuser finding whom? Who CB direct link are you talking about?
The Twitter quoted in this post, while the content of what they talk about is very important they have specifically asked not to directly post their twitter onto public figure skating forumsSorry I’m confused. Whose abuser finding whom? Who CB direct link are you talking about?
No men do not have to be careful. They have to behave decently and stop doing stupid things. He should not have done this or even considered doing this.
Morgan and Vanessa were not in Florida when Cleo and Denys trained there. But when they went back to France, they had no official coach and were trained by... Morgan in Bercy for more than one month. This was of course done with the FFSG approval. It was even some kind of official test for Morgan as he plans/planned to become an elite pair skating coachWhy on earth did the French Fed send a second pair to Florida last summer? The lady is not even 18yo and you send her there and fund part of the training. Don't tell me they did not know what was going on then?
Ok thanks. I deleted it. But I must say I’m kinda confused. It’s a public twitter account. If there’s any concern about privacy why did the person post on Twitter? They could just delete their tweets if they don’t want anyone to see them. What’s special about skating forums? Don’t tons of people retweet each other in the skating world anyway?while the content of what they talk about is very important they have specifically asked not to directly post their twitter onto public figure skating forums
While I am sympathetic to the request, the Tweet is itself a public post. If the person who posted it did not want it to be discussed elsewhere, he or she could have kept the post private or not even used Twitter at all.
And doing so does not assume that all victims are female. We hear of male victims plenty in this sport. All victims deserve our compassion and support, not derision or assumptions because they are boys in figure skating they must be predators, or the fact that girls are treated so horribly in so many cases as the example in this one shows. Girls and boys are victims of horrible people regardless. Tell that to my 7 year old son who skates @coppertop1 --that he'll just end up a sexual predator being in this sport. I've been told that because he is a boy of course he will be a rapist one day. Perpetuating that bullshit is horrible.The post you quoted was responding to a post that did just that (well, male pairs skaters with notably younger partners).
This is not a zero sum game. The main goal has to be protecting vulnerable skaters and making sport safe for everyone. Doing so does not require us to perpetuate harmful stereotypes.
France almost never extrades its citizens. I think the few cases of French extraditions (includes the Brussels museum terrorist) have been because of the Shengen agreement, which the US has no part of. France has no need to comply.The US and France have an extradition agreement. But I don't know how it works. I assume the US can ask France to send him back, but can France refuse or is the country legally obliged to comply ?
I completely agree about men needing to be decent. Even decent men can be accused...hence the extra careful. Think of a man teaching pairs lifts and demonstrating where the hands go. Having a second adult there is important in this day and age.No men do not have to be careful. They have to behave decently and stop doing stupid things. He should not have done this or even considered doing this.
The others are culpable for not doing anything after a complaint was lodged and trying to brush it under the carpet.
This line is saying that men cannot help themselves so they can't be held accountable for their behaviour. It is up to others to stop then.
Haven't you been following #metoo?
ALL ADULTS need to follow this, not just men. It's for everyone's protection.
thank you Sylvia.Statement is included in Brennan's latest tweet:
“I just received this statement from a publicist working with John Zimmerman, Silvia Fontana and Vinny Dispenza. I reported earlier today that they are currently under SafeSport investigation for an incident involving the alleged sexual abuse of a 13-year-old girl in 2017:”twitter.com
If someone assumes a young man is gay, it is presumptuous but there is no shame in that, is there? On the other hand, sexual predators are dangerous criminals.This is grossly unfair to the majority of young men in skating. They already deal with many people assuming that they’re gay because they skate. Now we have another group assuming that they must be sexual predators.
But the quote from John/Silvia/Vinny just released by Christine Brennan states that they have not been contacted by Safe Sport, a simple fact that can be verified if they were or not. So Safe Sport has had this allegation for 4 months and never contacted John/Silvia/Vinny? For almost 4 months?
It gets around to dick pics because the coach takes it there, deliberately. As I said before, it's a grooming strategy. The odds are quite high that Dispenza was targeting those two girls himself and this incident was part of an escalating pattern. What's not evident is whether there were two separate predators at that rink, or two predators working together.It begs the question what’s been going on in Vinny Dispenza’s lessons. How does the conversation get around to dick pics?
That seems unlikely to be true.But the quote from John/Silvia/Vinny just released by Christine Brennan states that they have not been contacted by Safe Sport. So Safe Sport has had this allegation for 4 months and never contacted John/Silvia/Vinny? For almost 4 months?