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Roman's quad sal and quad toe look like they're coming along nicely: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgwmr-8BH4t/?taken-by=tw_lynne
There is hope!
There is hope!
Should be a good battle next season between Keegan and the Next Gen of Joseph, Roman, Nic and Nam.
Team Keegster.TeamKeeg (TeamMess?)
I posted the link today in Keegan's cheer thread to an article from the Olympics in which he said after he finished competing there that he's thinking he may have 2 more seasons left in him: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/keegan-messing-cheer-thread.103682/page-2#post-5340896I really enjoyed Keegan's skating this season. Is he staying on?
Let the young’uns sort themselves out for the second spot cuz I am TeamKeeg (TeamMess?)
and would love to see this late bloomer carry the Canadian mens torch for a couple of seasons.
When he was approached to coach the men's singles skater two years ago, Vipond wasn't sure the match would work.
"I had never really watched him," he said. "I knew who he was but I was never really drawn into his skating. It wasn't my esthetic. He was known as this really wild, crazy, fast, athletic guy who was rough around the edges. My kind of thing is a refined, nice tidy style."
But Vipond said yes and, after Messing came to Brantford for a couple of weeks, their relationship grew,
Messing, who turned 26 in January, made his first Olympics this year, finishing 12th in men's singles. And then at the world championships, he recorded a personal high score in his short program on his way to an eighth-place finish.
Vipond thinks Messing still has more to accomplish.
"There's still stuff that he hasn't tried out yet," he said.
"He's mastered the style that we've worked on the past two years but, I think with his attitude and his openness, he can take a few more steps up.
"He's just beginning his international career. This is the first year people have taken notice of him."
I've always enjoyed Keegan, but seen him as somewhat limited in range. However, he may grow and surprise me.
Roman's quad sal and quad toe look like they're coming along nicely: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgwmr-8BH4t/?taken-by=tw_lynne
There is hope!
OHhhhhhhh... Let Shetterbug having her moment of appreciation... not all the kids develop at the sam age, some have growth spur issue. Guys get better with years.Of the "class of 1999", Nathan Chen and Dmitri Aliev have really raced ahead of the pack, including the likes of Roman and Alexander Petrov. I'm still hoping it's a case of patience being a virtue for Roman as far the next Olympic cycle goes.
Thanks @ChiquitaBanana. I think what Nathan Chen has accomplished is remarkable in ANY age group. My wish for Roman this season is to start putting down consistent performances and gain some ground on his peers like Aliev. Ditto for Nam, Nic, Jo, Conrad etc. At least one of these boys needs to step up and grab this opportunity by the throat.OHhhhhhhh... Let Shetterbug having her moment of appreciation... not all the kids develop at the sam age, some have growth spur issue. Guys get better with years.
I think he has been dumped since the moment Patrick came back.Will Skate Canada dump Nam Nyguen?
@skatetalent Saying Nam has not been supported by SC is, well, hysterical. Nam’s problems are twofold.
First, the training problems. He has terrible basic skating and is extemely slow. Yes, it appears he has tried to work on that but it is still no where near where it should be. He also appears to lack strength and conditioning training. This has become more apparent as he has grown. You need muscles to get up in the air and rotate, especially when you are on the tall side. Nam is 5’10” so about average height. He looks and skates much taller because of his lack of muscle and poor posture. If he was a women, even with equivalent jumps, he wouldn’t be making it out of Sections.
Second, he has an attitude problem and a family member with an attitude problem. Neither are endearing. People might be willing to put up with more when you are a 12 phenom, but at 20 it starts to wear a bit thin.
As for skating at galas, it was Nam who was chosen to skate on home ice at the 2010 Olympic gala eventhough he was not the reigning Junior National Champion. Liam Firus, the reigning Junior National Champion, also from Vancouver, was not even asked. There was absolutely no excuse for that.
When he was asked to skate in 2010 it was Skate Canada bragging about their child phenom nothing about placements.
@skatetalent Saying Nam has not been supported by SC is, well, hysterical. Nam’s problems are twofold.
First, the training problems. He has terrible basic skating and is extemely slow. Yes, it appears he has tried to work on that but it is still no where near where it should be. He also appears to lack strength and conditioning training. This has become more apparent as he has grown. You need muscles to get up in the air and rotate, especially when you are on the tall side. Nam is 5’10” so about average height. He looks and skates much taller because of his lack of muscle and poor posture. If he was a women, even with equivalent jumps, he wouldn’t be making it out of Sections.
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I was working incredible hrs at the time and only saw a few of the competition skate routines...nothing of the gala so did the reigning junior champions of all the disciplines appear in it or just Nam.That may be so, but it was a huge slap in the face to Firus and he didn’t deserve that.
Skate Canada's press release for Egna Spring Trophy: https://skatecanada.ca/2018/04/canadian-figure-skaters-in-italy-for-egna-spring-trophy/Canadian men assigned to 2018 Egna Spring Trophy (April 5-8 in Italy):
Junior Men (2):
Beresford CLEMENTS [J20 at Challenge in Dec. 2017]
Matthew MARKELL [J1 at 2018 Nationals]
Adv. Novice Boys (3):
Brian CHIEM [N3]
Alexei GUINZBOURG [N1]
Aleksa RAKIC [N2]
@skatetalent Saying Nam has not been supported by SC is, well, hysterical. Nam’s problems are twofold.
First, the training problems. He has terrible basic skating and is extemely slow. Yes, it appears he has tried to work on that but it is still no where near where it should be. He also appears to lack strength and conditioning training. This has become more apparent as he has grown. You need muscles to get up in the air and rotate, especially when you are on the tall side. Nam is 5’10” so about average height. He looks and skates much taller because of his lack of muscle and poor posture. If he was a women, even with equivalent jumps, he wouldn’t be making it out of Sections.
Second, he has an attitude problem and a family member with an attitude problem. Neither are endearing. People might be willing to put up with more when you are a 12 phenom, but at 20 it starts to wear a bit thin.
As for skating at galas, it was Nam who was chosen to skate on home ice at the 2010 Olympic gala eventhough he was not the reigning Junior National Champion. Liam Firus, the reigning Junior National Champion, also from Vancouver, was not even asked. There was absolutely no excuse for that.
At any other Nationals, a program like the LP he skated in Vancouver (with two quads and two 3As, one in combo with 3T, plus four other clean triples including two in combination) would definitely have gotten overblown "nationals inflation" PCS scores, but Nam was only fifth in PCS in the LP.
I think he has been dumped since the moment Patrick came back.
Nam was hit by particular “teenager”, physical, mental changes.
What he earned was by his international records not by skate Canada’s judges. His component scores were consistently same between domestic and internationalcompetitions. His technical was usually high far away from others in Canada he was lowball. However other athletes most got higher scores at domestic competition e.g. Liam, Eladje, Roman, Keegan, Nic... this shows Nam was not a cup of tea of Skate Canada, he got selected to do at international competitions because his world ranking his international records that others in Canada did not have it.
This sport is corrupted, not fair.
He gets high expectation from country from everyone, from community parents.... at young age
Look at the National results. He would deserve to be second... He would be selected to Olympic 2014 compared to Liam who could not land triple axel and was inflated by component scores to get third spot. Did Liam get dump at all? No I doubt about it.
Nam was selected to world 2014 not because Skate Canada liked him, because Skate Canada had no choice. At that year no one got the minimum scores for World but Nam. He got motivation and did well since then.
When Patrick came back, Nam and Patrick was at same event Skate Canada where Nam was a current champion, did he get attention? I guess not. He did well at age of 17, top 5 at the event. Skate Canada was passed by him to omit him to perform at Gala... I still remembered his coach got upset about this.
This year at Skate Canada International Keegan did not even make top 5 but he get bumped and all skate Canada athletes performed at Gala.
Just small thing could make a young athlete feel...
Of course it is Nam’s False as he should not get distract by these.
This sport is about encouragement, motivation. Once the athlete realize he/she is not supported his/her mentality would not be there for competition
Look at Alain, what Alain did and contribute to skate Canada
Above just my two cent thought, I usually support young talented athletes and do feel for them, their family who would pay extremely expensive price to trade and hope their kids to have good results.
https://skatecanada.ca/2018/04/canadas-beresford-clements-wins-silver-at-egna-spring-trophy/“I reached my goal by doing a clean free skate,” said Clements. “I got all my spins and just competed the way I trained. It was exciting to show off my abilities on the ice.”
This was Clements’ first career international assignment. He withdrew from an event earlier this season and didn’t qualify for the national championships.
“For this event I wanted to make sure I was fully healed,” said Clements. “I just trained really hard and focused on getting better. It was a slow process. It took about six months and required a lot of physio and days off.”
Matthew Markell of Prescott, Ont., second after the short program, withdrew from the free skate.
https://skatecanada.ca/2018/04/medal-bonanza-for-canadian-novice-skaters-at-egna-spring-trophy/Canada was 1-2 in novice men competition. Aleksa Rakic of Burnaby, B.C., won the gold medal with 129.62 points with Brian Chiem of Edmonton taking the silver with 117.16 and Maxim Knorr of Germany third at 110.70.
“I tried to replicate what I did in training,” said Rakic. “It was great to end that program on a high note. Now I’ll start preparing new programs with new elements with more jumps and more jumps in combination.”
Alec Guinzbourg of Kingston, Ont., second after the short program on Friday, withdrew.