Canadian Ice Dance 2017/18 Season News & Updates

jmtfti

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The season for Canadian ice dance kicks off in a big way for younger skaters next week with Minto Summer Skate. Per the extensive flight lists, the vast majority of the national junior ranks are scheduled to compete.

A few senior teams -- Sarah Arnold and Thomas Williams, Molly Lanaghan and Dmitre Razgulajevs (new), and Haley Sales and Nikolas Wamsteeker -- will be competing at Lake Placid.

Fans in the Toronto area can get a chance to check out the entire Scarboro crew's new programs at their annual So You Think You Can Judge show Friday, August 11.

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Skate Canada's National Team - Ice Dance for 2017-18:

Tessa Virtue / Scott Moir
Kaitlyn Weaver / Andrew Poje
Piper Gilles / Paul Poirier
Carolane Soucisse / Shane Firus
Haley Sales / Nikolas Wamsteeker

Skate Canada's NextGen program for junior ice dance, 2017-18:

Marjorie Lajoie / Zachary Lagha (1st Jr, 2017 Canadians)
Ashlynne Stairs / Lee Royer (2nd Jr, 2017 Canadians)
Alicia Fabbri / Claudio Pietrantonio (5th Jr, 2017 Canadians)
Irina Galiyanova / Tommy Tang (6th Jr, 2017 Canadians)
Olivia Han / Grayson Lochhead (8th Jr, 2017 Canadians)
Natalie D'Alessandro / Bruce Waddell (1st Nov, 2017 Canadians)
Nina Mizuki / Veniamins Volskis (5th Nov, 2017 Canadians)
 
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Skate Canada's NextGen program for junior ice dance, 2017-18:

Marjorie Lajoie / Zachary Lagha (1st Jr, 2017 Canadians)
Ashlynne Stairs / Lee Royer (2nd Jr, 2017 Canadians)
Alicia Fabbri / Claudio Pietrantonio (5th Jr, 2017 Canadians)
Irina Galiyanova / Tommy Tang (6th Jr, 2017 Canadians)
Olivia Han / Grayson Lochhead (8th Jr, 2017 Canadians)
Natalie D'Alessandro / Bruce Waddell (1st Nov, 2017 Canadians)
Nina Mizuki / Veniamins Volskis (5th Nov, 2017 Canadians)

I'd be curious to know why they picked novice 5, but not 2-4?
 

jmtfti

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It jumped out to me as well, and couldn't be explained as the junior selections were as being based almost entirely on 2016 JGP assignment -- something that threatened to prove circular for this season's JGP, but fortunately we're already seeing Minto performers earning spots -- but criteria for novices is not based on score or placements, but elements. Teams looking ahead to two or fewer years of junior eligibility must have executed a free dance with step sequences at least Level 2 and Level 3, Level 4 twizzles, and a GOE per-element average of at least 0.75. Teams with three or more remaining years of junior eligibility must have executed two step sequences of at least Level 2, Level 3 twizzles, and a GOE average of at least 0.5.

Looking at the teams' FD performances at Challenge and Nationals, here's how 1-5 stacked up (not being sure how many years of junior eligibility each couple has, I'm assessing them per each set of criteria):

D'Alessandro/Waddell:
CHALLENGE: L2 step sequences; L3 twizzles; GOE average of 0.74.
NATIONALS: L2 and 3 step sequences; L3 twizzles; GOE average of 0.82.


Kastkin/Circelli:
CHALLENGE: L1 and 3 step sequences; L4 twizzles; GOE average of 0.657.
NATIONALS: L1 and 2 step sequences; L4 twizzles; GOE average of 0.686.

Behiel/Behiel:
CHALLENGE: L1 and 3 step sequences; L4 twizzles; GOE average of 0.18.
NATIONALS: L2 and 3 step sequences; L4 twizzles; GOE average of 0.379.

Mizuki/Volskis:
CHALLENGE: L3 step sequences; L4 twizzles; GOE average of 0.75.
NATIONALS: L1 and 2 step sequences; L4 twizzles; GOE average of 0.57

McCue/Clemente:
CHALLENGE: L1 step sequences; L1 twizzles; GOE average of 0.149.
NATIONALS: L2 step sequences; L2 twizzles; GOE average of 0.539.


I'm not sure this will prove the soundest methodology in the long run, but I'm glad to determine they were at least consistent in its application. And thanks for raising the question -- may expand this into a piece! ;)
 

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2017 Ontario Summer Ice Dance Sr & Open Dance result & fancams (August 19-20)
* You can watch by clicking SD or FD

Senior Ice Dance
1 Molly Lanaghan / Dmitre Razgulajevs Scarboro FSC/Scarboro FSC SD 53.70 (1) FD 81.80 (1) 135.50
2 Victoria Manni / Carlo Rothlisberger Switzerland/Switzerland SD 48.75 (2) FD 69.56 (2) 118.31

Open Dance
1 Shaundra Buelow Barrie SC SD 31.81 (1) 31.81

results & protocol http://www.skateontario.org/summer-skate-start-ordersresults/
 

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2017 Ontario Summer Ice Dance Junior & Novice result & fancams (August 19-20)
* You can watch by clicking SD or FD

Junior Ice Dance
1 Irina Galiyanova / Tommy Tang Scarboro FSC/Scarboro FSC SD 56.42 (1) FD 69.97 (2) 126.39
2 Olivia McIsaac / Elliott Graham Burlington Skating Centre/Barrie SC SD 52.27 (2) FD 70.20 (1) 122.47
3 Jade McCue / Gabriel Clemente Skate Canada Brampton-Chinguacous SD 47.59 (5) FD 67.70 (3) 115.29
4 Olivia Han / Grayson Lochhead Kitchener - Waterloo SC/Woodstock SD 50.13 (3) FD 63.11 (5) 113.24
5 Keelee Gingrich / Parker Brown Barrie SC/Barrie SC SD 46.57 (7) FD 63.67 (4) 110.24
6 Katerina Kasatkin / Corey Circelli Toronto CS & CC/Toronto CS & CC SD 47.06 (6) FD 62.33 (6) 109.39
7 Lily Hensen / Nathan Lickers Ilderton SC/Ilderton SC SD 35.67 (8) FD 47.80 (8) 83.47
8 Valerie So / Marcus Yau Hong Kong/Hong Kong SD 31.18 (10) FD 48.06 (7) 79.24
9 Yohanna Broker / Yann Thayalan Skate Canada Brampton-Chinguacous SD 31.84 (9) FD 46.30 (9) 78.14
10 Valerie Taillefer / Jason Chan Saint Laurent FSC/Saint Laurent FSC SD 47.73 (4) FD WD (10) 47.73

Novice Ice Dance
1 Nadiia Bashynska / Peter Beaumont Scarboro FSC/Scarboro FSC PD1 12.10 (1) PD2 10.71 (4) FD 65.57 (1) 88.38
2 Hannah Gray / Quinn Bisson Ilderton SC/Ilderton SC PD1 10.45 (2) PD2 12.03 (1) FD 50.18 (3) 72.66
3 Shaelene Katrayan / Liam Lewis Scarboro FSC/Scarboro FSC PD1 8.41 (6) PD2 9.09 (7) FD 54.06 (2) 71.56
4 Colleen Tordoff / Vladimir Tchernov Bradford & District SC/Scarboro FSC PD1 10.26 (3) PD2 11.31 (3) FD 48.90 (4) 70.47
5 Erica Estepa / Nolen Hickey Skate Canada Brampton-Chinguacous PD1 9.10 (4) PD2 11.80 (2) FD 46.27 (6) 67.17
6 Erin Gillies / Nicolas Woodcock Mariposa WC/Barrie SC PD1 8.05 (8) PD2 9.39 (5) FD 48.15 (5) 65.59
7 Evangeline Liao / Jacob White Skate Canada Brampton-Chinguacous PD1 8.12 (7) PD2 9.18 FD (6) 44.12 (7) 61.42
8 Chloe Mitchel / Liam Conroy Scarboro FSC/Brighton & Dist FSC PD1 9.08 (5) PD2 8.43 (8) FD 35.97 (8) 53.48

results & protocol http://www.skateontario.org/summer-skate-start-ordersresults/
 

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Congrats to Lajoie/Lagha on their win at JGP Zagreb! I really, really enjoyed their FD, even though I find the vocals on both the pieces they are using a bit grating. They skated beautifully and the program works well as a coherent whole, with nice highlights and strong choreo overall. Something about their partnering, technical preparedness, connection with each other and overall look reminds me of Belbin & Agosto in their junior days (which is definite praise from me, as I loved junior B&A). They skate with so much maturity for a team that, at 16/18, are probably among the younger teams on the top of the junior GP ranks these days since they have several more years of international junior eligibility. :cheer:
 

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Digging this thread out to post Challenge Dance results/teams qualified for 2018 Canadian Nationals...

SENIOR (10 teams total?)
1 Haley Sales / Nikolas Wamsteeker BC/YK 63.72 (1) 92.94 (2) 156.66 (have Worlds & 4CC minimums)
2 Sarah Arnold / Thomas Williams BC/YK 57.62 (3) 94.08 (1) 151.70 (have 4CC minimums; Worlds FD minimum only)
3 Molly Lanaghan / Dmitre Razgulajevs ON 58.68 (2) 84.26 (3) 142.94 (have 4CC minimums; Worlds FD minimum only)
4 Ravie Cunningham / Cedar Bridgewood BC/YK 51.84 (4) 73.02 (4) 124.86
5 Gina Cipriano / Jake Richardson QC 48.62 (5) 71.64 (5) 120.26
WD Carolane Soucisse / Shane Firus QC (GP bye) - have Worlds & 4CC minimums
WD Vanessa Chartrand / Alexander Seidel QC
Byes: Virtue/Moir, Weaver/Poje, Gilles/Poirier (ETA) & Lajoie/Lagha (JGPF bye)

JUNIOR (eta: with JGP Finalists Marjorie Lajoie/Zachary Lagha returning to defend their Junior title, top 14 of the 22 teams qualify)
1 Ashlynne Stairs / Lee Royer BC/YK 59.12 (1) 78.66 (3) 137.78 (have WJC minimums)
2 Alicia Fabbri / Claudio Pietrantonio QC 55.18 (4) 80.42 (1) 135.60 (have WJC minimums)
3 Olivia McIsaac / Elliott Graham ON 57.04 (2) 77.52 (4) 134.56 (have WJC minimums)
4 Ellie Fisher / Simon-Pierre Malette-Paquette QC 53.16 (5) 78.98 (2) 132.14 (have WJC minimums)
5 Valerie Taillefer / Jason Chan QC 52.76 (6) 74.18 (5) 126.94 (have WJC minimums)
6 Irina Galiyanova / Tommy Tang ON 55.58 (3) 66.86 (8) 122.44 (have WJC minimums)
7 Keelee Gingrich / Parker Brown ON 47.66 (8) 68.76 (6) 116.42
8 Nina Mizuki / Veniamins Volskis BC/YK 49.56 (7) 65.82 (9) 115.38 (have WJC SD minimum only)
9 Katrine Roy / Oliver Zhang QC 47.50 (9) 65.40 (10) 112.90
10 Natalie D’Alessandro / Bruce Waddell ON 44.90 (11) 67.92 (7) 112.82 (have WJC minimums)
11 Olivia Han / Grayson Lochhead ON 47.16 (10) 64.02 (13) 111.18 (have WJC minimums)
12 Kaitlyn Chubb / Alex Gunther ON 44.10 (12) 64.06 (12) 108.16
13 Jade McCue / Gabriel Clemente ON 40.98 (14) 64.92 (11) 105.90
14 Katerina Kasatkin / Corey Circelli ON 41.22 (13) 62.04 (14) 103.26

NOVICE (top 15 of the 20 teams qualify)
1 Miku Makita / Tyler Gunara BC/YK 14.29 (2) 13.30 (5) 70.38 (1) 97.97
2 Nadiia Bashynska / Peter Beaumont ON 14.75 (1) 15.29 (1) 67.19 (2) 97.23
3 Amelia Boone / Malcolm Kowan AB/NT/NU 11.63 (8) 13.30 (4) 62.63 (3) 87.56
4 Sophia Strachan / Everest Zhu ON 12.01 (4) 11.31 (11) 57.86 (4) 81.18
5 Isabel Mcquilkin / Jacob Portz AB/NT/NU 10.64 (9) 13.05 (7) 57.17 (5) 80.86
6 Bridget Le Donne / Jakub Smal ON 11.77 (5) 13.07 (6) 55.65 (6) 80.49
7 Pearl Kang / Kyle Pearson AB/NT/NU 13.43 (3) 13.42 (3) 52.54 (8) 79.39
8 Colleen Tordoff / Vladimir Tchernov ON 9.87 (11) 14.11 (2) 53.54 (7) 77.52
9 Erin Gillies / Nicolas Woodcock ON 10.50 (10) 11.32 (10) 51.95 (9) 73.77
10 Olivia Tremblay / Anthony Campanelli QC 11.67 (7) 10.62 (12) 51.08 (10) 73.37
11 Erica Estepa / Nolen Hickey ON 9.73 (13) 11.88 (9) 50.23 (12) 71.84
12 Hannah Gray / Quinn Bisson ON 11.74 (6) 12.54 (8) 43.97 (15) 68.25
13 Rosalie Groulx / Yé Quan QC 8.87 (14) 8.63 (16) 50.33 (11) 67.83
14 Shaelene Katrayan / Liam Lewis ON 8.00 (17) 9.40 (14) 48.18 (13) 65.58
15 Leticia Briand / Zachary Whittaker QC 8.82 (15) 7.83 (18) 47.98 (14) 64.63

And congrats to the 2017-18 Pre-Novice medalists:
1 Sydney Embro / Eric Millar ON 14.74 (4) 16.18 (2) 48.46 (1) 79.38 (new Canadian record, I believe?)
2 Sophia Kagolovskaya / Kieran MacDonald ON 15.88 (1) 16.76 (1) 46.48 (2) 79.12
3 Mia Saunders / William Oddson AB/NT/NU 13.62 (9) 14.16 (5) 45.76 (4) 73.54
 
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Digging this thread out to post Challenge Dance results/teams qualified for 2018 Canadian Nationals...

SENIOR (10 teams total?)
1 Haley Sales / Nikolas Wamsteeker BC/YK 63.72 (1) 92.94 (2) 156.66
2 Sarah Arnold / Thomas Williams BC/YK 57.62 (3) 94.08 (1) 151.70
3 Molly Lanaghan / Dmitre Razgulajevs ON 58.68 (2) 84.26 (3) 142.94
4 Ravie Cunningham / Cedar Bridgewood BC/YK 51.84 (4) 73.02 (4) 124.86
5 Gina Cipriano / Jake Richardson QC 48.62 (5) 71.64 (5) 120.26
WD Carolane Soucisse / Shane Firus QC (GP bye)
WD Vanessa Chartrand / Alexander Seidel QC
Byes: Virtue/Moir, Weaver/Poje, Gilles/Poirier

JUNIOR (assuming Lajoie/Lagha can return to defend their Junior title, top 14 of the 22 teams qualify)
L/L are doing senior at Nats, so 11 senior teams. Source: https://twitter.com/icedancecom/status/936705747710197760
 

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I would hope that Lajoie/Lagha compete as seniors at nationals. Yes their senior programs ( esp the SD ) would be undercooked. But I don't see them finishing below 5th even with underprepared senior programs. At least they would get experience sharing the ice with a top class field and most likely make the national team.
 

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If Lajoie/Lagha skate seniors at Nationals I feel like they're being set up for a 4CC spot. 4CC will have all the top teams getting ready for Pyeongchang so it could be an opportunity to test the waters. Their focus is obviously getting that Junior World title but next year they have the opportunity to move up in Canada. I guess we will see.
 

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So am I the only one that thinks that if V/M don’t go to worlds (which come on they won’t) that there is a danger of Canadian ice dance only earning 2 spots for worlds next year. There is a chance that both W/P and G/P could finish behind all 3 American teams, 2 Russians, and Capellini/Lanotte since worlds are in Italy, 2 Italians if we count G/F possibly beating G/P. That’s not even counting the French. I could see both Canadian teams finishing something like 6th and 8th and just missing out. Any thoughts?
 

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According to the list of byes / number of qualifiers sheet at Challenge Lajoie/Lagha are skating junior...
 

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So am I the only one that thinks that if V/M don’t go to worlds (which come on they won’t) that there is a danger of Canadian ice dance only earning 2 spots for worlds next year. There is a chance that both W/P and G/P could finish behind all 3 American teams, 2 Russians, and Capellini/Lanotte since worlds are in Italy, 2 Italians if we count G/F possibly beating G/P. That’s not even counting the French. I could see both Canadian teams finishing something like 6th and 8th and just missing out. Any thoughts?

I do not see any reason for them not to go to worlds if they feel Canada needs it...This is their last yr of skating and they want every moment. If spots are a problem I think they will go to worlds to give the dancers a chance next year. For sure with V/M there the scores of either W/P or G/P should give 3 spots...They said they decided not to retire to get another crack at Olympics..they did not say when they leave the Olympics they will be hanging up their skates at the door.
 

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But they returned to get one more crack at the OGM. What if they don't win the OGM, will they want to go to Worlds?
 

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So am I the only one that thinks that if V/M don’t go to worlds (which come on they won’t) that there is a danger of Canadian ice dance only earning 2 spots for worlds next year. There is a chance that both W/P and G/P could finish behind all 3 American teams, 2 Russians, and Capellini/Lanotte since worlds are in Italy, 2 Italians if we count G/F possibly beating G/P. That’s not even counting the French. I could see both Canadian teams finishing something like 6th and 8th and just missing out. Any thoughts?

The chances for Canada to loose the third spot are slim, even without VM, Unless someone get injured again. Healthy WP, especially if they will be back to their Canadian no1 status will easily beat the Italians, the Russians and at least two American teams.
 

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The chances for Canada to loose the third spot are slim, even without VM, Unless someone get injured again. Healthy WP, especially if they will be back to their Canadian no1 status will easily beat the Italians, the Russians and at least two American teams.

Not easily. Weaver & Poje would have a fight on their hands.

Again, though, it's very common for top athletes to withdraw prior to Worlds during an Olympic season. Really hard to predict.
 

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But they returned to get one more crack at the OGM. What if they don't win the OGM, will they want to go to Worlds?
Who knows? I have no idea if they want to either way but as I have not read hay or nay I would not say they will not go to worlds.
 

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They were asked about it sometime at Worlds last year I think. Scott said something like they hadn't decided and they'd see how they felt. He added that one more chance to compete the programs is pretty tempting.
 

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Worlds comes up pretty quickly after the Olympics. Unlike prior years where the event is literally the final week of March and into like April 1, 2018 Worlds goes March 19 thru 25, making the turnaround time between Olympics and Worlds a week shorter than "normal" I believe.
 

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