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Well, pencil in the ShibSibs for 2 GP assignments (see the US Ice Dance thread for the news). There will be some non-host fed teams who lose out on a 2nd GP assignment with this news.
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do they qualify for 2 spots, or will they get the host SkAm spot?Well, pencil in the ShibSibs for 2 GP assignments (see the US Ice Dance thread for the news). There will be some non-host fed teams who lose out on a 2nd GP assignment with this news.
Well, we know with the world standings updated:
Guaranteed:
Chock & Bates - 2
Carreira & Ponomarenko - 2
Green & Parsons - 2
Zingas & Kolesnik - 1
Bratti & Somerville - 1
Brown & Brown - 1
Pate & Bye - 1
Neset & Markelov - 1
Wolfkostin &MarkelovTsarevski ? IIRC the WJC medalist thing didn't guarantee anything moving forward.
With Shibutanis certainly getting 2 if that's what they want, that's 13 spots. Z/K, B/S, Browns probably getting seconds spots. Maybe W/M get 2 and that's that.
They qualify as a Comeback Team and I'd be surprised if they're assigned to SkAm.do they qualify for 2 spots, or will they get the host SkAm spot?
c) “Come-Back” Skaters/Couples: Skaters/Couples who were previously seeded (placed 1 to 6 within the past 10 years at a ISU World Figure Skating Championships) and subsequently did not participate in one or more competitive seasons will be given priority consideration to re-enter the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating for selection of up to 2 assignments if they commit in writing to participating in two ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating events and if such return is announced and confirmed by the date of the annual Selection Meeting. Such so called “Come Back Skaters/Couples” will not substitute any of the Seeded Skaters/Couples, mentioned under a). “Come Back Skaters/Couples” must not fulfil the requirements of the minimum Grand Prix score and would be considered for selection as an Organizing ISU Member Choice. A come back under this clause is allowed only once in their competitive career for any Skater/Couple.
No, it's never been 2; it's always been 3 max.Well that explains it. Did it used to be 2 without regard to the host country bonus slot?
I'm pretty certain at a certain age (21 maybe?) you have to revoke your Japanese citizenship as they don't allow dual - so they likely don't have it anymore (assuming their parents ensured they had it as kids, which I would assume yes for ease of family travel etc).This is nuts, but I wonder if the Shibs have citizenship with Japan. They’d be a shoo in for the Olympic team event. And still get their GP spots right?
Pretty sure that even if there was a way for them to regain their Japanese citizenship, which @litenkyckling notes has most certainly been relinquished by both of them already, that their return to competitive skating wouldn't have come from the USFS if there was a country switch afoot.This is nuts, but I wonder if the Shibs have citizenship with Japan. They’d be a shoo in for the Olympic team event. And still get their GP spots right?
Their mother was born in Japan.Were the Shibutanis born to Japanese citizens? If not, they probably weren't eligible for Japanese citizenship themselves.
It is 2 for the JGP, with 3 for the host for singles and dance. Maybe that's what you were thinking of.Well that explains it. Did it used to be 2 without regard to the host country bonus slot?
Well, this opens up a couple of spots on the GP. Shimada wasn't guaranteed 1 or 2 but given he was SB 32 and from a host fed, I think most of us had him pencilled in to get 2 on my projections. For now, I'm giving Samoilov and Circelli, SB 33 & 34 respectively, one GP each, since the next highest Japanese man on the SB list is Nakamura down at SB 46.Ikra Kushida and Koshiro Shimada have teamed up as ice dancers!![]()
Ikura will also compete in singles while Koshiro will focus on dance.
ETA:They will skate for Friends on Ice show in August.
The category is...GP Seeding for top 6.
Anyone care to take a guess at what the GP seeding will shake out? It's tricky with 3 USA and 3 JPN and knowing what the two feds will do with their host spots.
I've redone this several times. It's not my final answer, but for today's discussion...
France - Sakamoto/Glenn
China - Chiba/Higuchi
Canada - Liu/Glenn
NHK - Sakamoto/Levito
USA - Liu/Higuchi
FIN - Chiba/Levito
Oooo! Let's do this for every discipline! I haven't re-done my Women's seedings recently, but I have re-done the Men, Pairs & Dance just in the past week or so, lol. Your women's list is interesting - we have 4 pairings that are the same, though at different GPs.The category is...GP Seeding for top 6.
Anyone care to take a guess at what the GP seeding will shake out? It's tricky with 3 USA and 3 JPN and knowing what the two feds will do with their host spots.
I've redone this several times. It's not my final answer, but for today's discussion...
France - Sakamoto/Glenn
China - Chiba/Higuchi
Canada - Liu/Glenn
NHK - Sakamoto/Levito
USA - Liu/Higuchi
FIN - Chiba/Levito
I want to say they draw lots and it then rotates through each discipline, but I'm not 100% on that. So, if the order for Men winds up being FRA, CAN, FIN, USA, CHN, JPN; then the Women's draw order would be CAN, FIN, USA, CHN, JPN, FRA; the Pairs' draw order would be FIN, USA, CHN, JPN, FRA, CAN; and the Dance draw order would be USA, CHN, JPN, FRA, CAN, FIN.These potential match-ups are fun to read, but I think they are optimistic in minimizing the number of repeated match-ups.
Does anyone know what order the feds choose in? I don't remember whether they take turns somehow or make it random each year.
Yeah, I would imagine both C/B and FB/C will prefer to delay going head to head until at least GPF (especially after what happened in 2017 when P/C had a match-up with V/M at NHK), and that C/B will avoid going to Cizeron's home ice given how much the French federation will politick for him, but I love the idea of "high risk, high reward" of C/B debuting 1) in the 1st GP, 2) against FB/C, and 3) in France LOL.Ice Dance -
GPdF - ChoBat/SmaDie; *FBCiz
CoC - FearGib/GuigFab; *Shibs
SCI - GilPoir/CarPon; *LajLag
NHK - FearGib/SmaDie; *FBCiz
SkAm - ChoBat/CarPon
Finlandia - GilPoir/GuigFab; *Shibs
I've gone back & forth on my Ice Dance seedings a LOT, even before the Shibs announced last week, I was still struggling because of the FBCiz factor.
Ultimately, I think ChoBat are going to feel pretty confident about making an early season debut at France - 1) they've done it at SkAm the past few years, 2) their off-season is pretty clear post-WTT with just 12 days or so for the US-SOI tour, and they've been back in Montreal the past 3 weeks, so they're not going to come into the GP behind the 8-ball like they have the past couple seasons, and 3) they're not going to want to show any fear in taking on FBCiz on their home territory. I'm probably entirely wrong and they'll take CoC instead, which would completely scramble the rest of the assignments, lol.